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The Learning Irish/General Queries Thread.

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  • #102
    An gal gréine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭An gal gréine


    It's not akin to " whatever"!!
    'Go ndéana a mhaith duit', which you mentioned, is a very good way of saying it.


  • #103
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    An gal gréine wrote: »
    It's not akin to " whatever"!!
    'Go ndéana a mhaith duit', which you mentioned, is a very good way of saying it.
    I know (now), I just meant that the english translation of it sounds like the english way of saying 'i don't care' or 'whatever'


  • #104
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    riffmongous wrote: »
    I know (now), I just meant that the english translation of it sounds like the english way of saying 'i don't care' or 'whatever'

    That's exactly why I was reluctant to give you a direct, literal (word-for-word) translation of the phrase. Idioms don't often transfer nicely from one language to another. In English, "It's your life" is an awful, passive-aggressive little phrase. In Irish, "Is é do bheatha" is a nice way to welcome somebody or to show your appreciation. As I said above, it's a bit more like "Cheers" or "Here's to you!"


  • #105
    ezra_pound
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    Literally, "it's your life", but I'd interpret it as being similar to "cheers" or wishing someone good health.

    It's also used as 'welcome' as in welcome to Ireland etc.
    Óró sé do bheatha abhaile means welcome home.

    In Dracula, welcome to the Carpathian mountains is translated "sé do bheatha go dtí na sléibhte cairpe'.


  • #106
    ezra_pound
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    Actually Dracula also says:
    “Is é do bheatha chun mo thíse. Tar isteach de do dheoin agus le do shaorthoil féin!”

    "Welcome to my house! Enter freely and of your own free will!"


  • #107
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    That's exactly why I was reluctant to give you a direct, literal (word-for-word) translation of the phrase. Idioms don't often transfer nicely from one language to another. In English, "It's your life" is an awful, passive-aggressive little phrase. In Irish, "Is é do bheatha" is a nice way to welcome somebody or to show your appreciation. As I said above, it's a bit more like "Cheers" or "Here's to you!"

    But the interesting thing about idioms, and also why I was curious to know what it literally translates to.. if I use that talking to other people who aren't familiar with it (which could be a lot of irish speakers in my case) isn't there a chance they will also translate it literally and think I am being passive aggressive? Although this is probably beyond the scope of this thread and I don't want to english it up much more ;)


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