Cement Factory to burn tyres from all over the country

Casperbhoy · 09-03-2016 11:32am

Tim76 wrote: »

I note from the article that Cian Prendeville & 3 AAA Councillors voted against the granting of the lease at Gortadroma. Yet John Loftus of AAA has come out in support of the incinerator at Mungret. Why the change of heart AAA?

John loftus has been expelled from the aaa

Tim76 · 10-03-2016 10:29am

Casperbhoy wrote: »

John loftus has been expelled from the aaa

Do u know why?

I'd be interested in finding out the AAA's stance on this development. If they even know about it. It seems to be flying under the radar so far, a lot of people in the area don't even know about the proposal.

zulutango · 10-03-2016 10:34am

Tim76 wrote: »

Do u know why?

I'd be interested in finding out the AAA's stance on this development. If they even know about it. It seems to be flying under the radar so far, a lot of people in the area don't even know about the proposal.

He was arguing with somebody in a private Facebook chat and things got heated ...

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/councillor-made-facebook-threat-that-ill-cut-your-fg-throat-31478971.html

The AAA had to distance themselves from him then.

Casperbhoy · 11-03-2016 5:35am

zulutango wrote: »

He was arguing with somebody in a private Facebook chat and things got heated ...

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/councillor-made-facebook-threat-that-ill-cut-your-fg-throat-31478971.html

The AAA had to distance themselves from him then.

You need to question the suitability and judgement of someone like that to be a public representative.

Is the primetime report available through rte player?

moleyv · 11-03-2016 6:27pm

Casperbhoy wrote:

Is the primetime report available through rte player?

No, haven't found it anywhere.

Must not have happened.... Only joking.

What type of tests were they? What were they testing? What was wrong with the methodologies? And what qualifies a journalist to know what is correct or wrong. Had they a consultant to assist?

IsabelGL · 18-03-2016 2:45pm

Hey all, this application has been withdrawn, limerick planning can't cope with such a large document, so this is to be sent to an bord pleannala, did anyone got a hold on environmental impact statement? Planning office said they don't have any of documentation.

Anyone interested in join Facebook page the name is
LAP - limerick against pollution

There's a petition there to, even has an expert opinion as to why this should not go ahead.

moleyv · 18-03-2016 5:27pm

IsabelGL wrote:

There's a petition there to, even has an expert opinion as to why this should not go ahead.

Do you mind posting what this 'expert opinion' is, and who the expert is. I don't use FB.

I think it would benefit the thread.

Special Circumstances · 18-03-2016 6:08pm

The line fed to the media seems to be still the implied "good for the environment therefore it must be good for you"... All based purely on CO2 which is the almost the most benign output from any combustion process.

There mustn't be much else good to say about it if a percentage decrease in CO2 is the only publicised "benefit".

IsabelGL · 18-03-2016 8:55pm

moleyv wrote: »

Do you mind posting what this 'expert opinion' is, and who the expert is. I don't use FB.

I think it would benefit the thread.

Hi, can't post links, I use my log in mostly for partners sites, but if you google CHASE Anthony staines, this would be one of the files an organization in cork (in similar situation) have posts on their website, very interesting stuff, not about the process itself, but about about regulatory bodies and fact that they cannot cope with this type of industry.

Clareman · 18-03-2016 9:09pm

If you put in the link and just replace the dots with a space I'll edit your post with the proper link

IsabelGL · 18-03-2016 11:10pm

moleyv wrote: »

Do you mind posting what this 'expert opinion' is, and who the expert is. I don't use FB.

I think it would benefit the thread.

[url]Http://www.chaseireland.org/Documents/EPA submission - Dr A Staines.pdf[/url]

IsabelGL · 18-03-2016 11:11pm

IsabelGL wrote: »

www chaseireland org/Documents/EPA%20submission%20-%20Dr%20A%20Staines pdf

There's a dot before chase, org and PDF, thanks clareman

Casperbhoy · 23-03-2016 9:13pm

Chase is bringing An bord planeala to the supreme court as far as i know.

That case will have a huge bearing on the proposed Limerick incinerator

Casperbhoy · 15-04-2016 8:58pm

Question: If the planning permission is withdrawn, Is it legal to have the application notice still displayed in front of the factory 3 weeks later?

moleyv · 15-04-2016 11:23pm

Casperbhoy wrote:

Question: If the planning permission is withdrawn, Is it legal to have the application notice still displayed in front of the factory 3 weeks later?

Yes, it means nothing. It has to be displayed from the date of submission (with the newspaper notice being on the date, or a max of two weeks before) and for a min period of 5 weeks (the time for public submissions). A new one must be displayed if there is substantial changes following a request for further information, and the new notice must reflect these significant changes in the description part, along with the same for newspaper notices.

Everywhere is littered with old site notices. As long as they met the above requirements its fine.

Casperbhoy · 26-04-2016 7:44pm

Irish Cement will be lodging a revised planning application to Limerick City and Council this Wednesday 27th.There will also be a new notice in the paper on Wednesday.

The new application will be for 90,000 tonnes of tyres and other “alternative fuels

Special Circumstances · 26-04-2016 8:32pm

Casperbhoy wrote: »

Irish Cement will be lodging a revised planning application to Limerick City and Council this Wednesday 27th.There will also be a new notice in the paper on Wednesday.

The new application will be for 90,000 tonnes of tyres and other “alternative fuels

Are they still on the "high temperatures mean no nasty stuff. We'll even reduce that awful CO2. ..you know, that fizzy drink gas" buzz?

http://m.plymouthherald.co.uk/VIDEO-Plymouth-incinerator-pollution-highest/story-29064272-detail/story.html

I guess nox emissions are a bit of an awkward one in Europe, if people realise what they are then they'll have an awkward moment driving their Green party endorsed diesel car.

IsabelGL · 27-04-2016 9:58pm

Does anyone else find it bit interesting that the quantity of tyres has reduced from 210 000 tons per annum to 90 000 tons on their latest application?!?

Maybe there are trying a softly softly approach? get their foot in the door and then apply for 210 000 tons again?

I've done a bit of research on the amount of end-of-life tyres produced in ireland, per annum it equates to 40 000 tons!

If they are trying to be green by using end of life products, using petcoke has less heavy metals and is a bi-product of crude... So rather then putting petcoke why not incinerate it in cement kilns instead, since they burn at a higher temperature then tyres.

Thoughts?

Tim76 · 29-04-2016 12:56pm

For anyone who wishes to view the application the new reference file number is 16345. Follow the link below and enter the number in the relevant search bar...

http://eplan.limerick.ie/SearchExact

No docs or drawings have been scanned nor uploaded for public view as yet. There is a limited time frame to make a submission/observation so if you do have any concerns they will have to be made known before Tuesday 31/05/16. Link below for advice on doing same...

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/planning_permission/commenting_on_planning_application.html

Anyone who has not made a submission before this date cannot appeal the decision of the council to An Bord Pleanala once made.

Casperbhoy · 26-05-2016 6:54pm

Just a reminder, next Tuesday is the final day to make an objection!

bmm · 28-05-2016 1:38pm

screamer wrote: »

Do you know what happens to waste tyres at the moment? they are baled and shipped to China where they are broken down into fuel......
now, sorry, but it's a typical case of NIMBYism, everyone needs the product, wants it, but no one wants to deal with the waste. I think incinerating it in Ireland is far greener than shipping back to China TBH.

There are far better things you can do with waste tyres. They can be ground into pellets and used in all kinds of new products , as well as road surface materials. Burning is the lowest of the low and only results in more toxicity in the air we breathe .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYW5BxOYD10

Boardmaster · 16-03-2017 1:03pm

https://uplift.ie/irish-cement/

Anyone who feels like objecting.

who_ru · 17-03-2017 1:35pm

Boardmaster wrote: »

https://uplift.ie/irish-cement/

Anyone who feels like objecting.

seeing as the county council have agreed to the application by Irish cement to build facilities to burn tyres, it would appear that this will go ahead, much to the objection of local people.

Casperbhoy · 17-03-2017 2:09pm

If there was a non compliance i.e. dioxin release that is caught by a monitoring system.

What would the penalty be for CRH? a small fine or would the facility be shut?

Cookiemunster · 17-03-2017 8:25pm

who_ru wrote: »

seeing as the county council have agreed to the application by Irish cement to build facilities to burn tyres, it would appear that this will go ahead, much to the objection of local people.

Ever heard of An Bord Pleanala? Anyone who originally objected has 6 weeks from LCCC granting permission to appeal this decision to ABP.

mart 23 · 17-03-2017 9:17pm

Hi

Do CRH burn tyres at their plant in Drogheda ?

Alf Veedersane · 17-03-2017 9:26pm

mart 23 wrote: »

Hi

Do CRH burn tyres at their plant in Drogheda ?

They're licensed to use 30,000 tonnes as an alternative fuel.

Casperbhoy · 17-03-2017 9:46pm

they are applying for permission i believe

Alf Veedersane · 17-03-2017 10:06pm

Casperbhoy wrote: »

they are applying for permission i believe

You can check their license on the EPA website. They already have permission for the Drogheda plant for 30,000 tonnes per annum.

Casperbhoy · 02-04-2017 8:16pm

There was another blow out over the weekend. The EPA and HSE are investigating

Cement Factory to burn tyres from all over the country

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