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The Great Britain Appreciation Thread

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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Allow me to share this gem from B&Q, this stalwart of British industry:



    https://www.diy.com/departments/dewalt-heritage-black-tan-shorts-w36-/5055160049111_BQ.prd


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    I dont think they did the actual building work.

    The buildings were commissioned by the Anglo Irish in most cases anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    As an engineer by training, if not by practice; I've always had a huge grá for what Isambard Kingdom Brunel achieved. A man of extraordinary intellect and ambition. It really was an era of enlightenment. The thinking behind making rail the finest way of traveling and moving goods has never been surpassed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Churchill was a racist, ran concentration camps, had people tortured, threatened to invade Ireland in WW2, was responsible for the Black and Tans, the partition of Ireland, partition of the Indian sub continent, millions of deaths in India.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html

    Far from something good about Great Britain.
    Surely Cornish Pasties and Eccles cake would make up for all that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,975 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    As an engineer by training, if not by practice; I've always had a huge grá for what Isambard Kingdom Brunel achieved. A man of extraordinary intellect and ambition. It really was an era of enlightenment. The thinking behind making rail the finest way of traveling and moving goods has never been surpassed.

    Plus one - always fascinated by the achievements in engineering.
    They certainly didn't squander all the spoils of empire anyhow, the educational centres they built paid dividends and their infrastructural projects were marvels, no doubt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Aaaaand unfollow...
    was surprised it took so long to drag what could have been an interesting thread for a change , down to their level


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Ireland's greatest period was when it was coat tailing on the phenomenal power, glory, wealth, influence, innovation, and energy of Great Britain. It road the wave of being a global giant, the envy of all.
    Ireland should appreciate its golden period 1800-1922. Thanks Great Britain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Thanks Aleister Crowley man, you greatly enhanced our reputation.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Ireland's greatest period was when it was coat tailing on the phenomenal power, glory, wealth, influence, innovation, and energy of Great Britain. It road the wave of being a global giant, the envy of all.
    Ireland should appreciate its golden period 1800-1922. Thanks Great Britain.

    1/10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Well you have to admire the Brits who can get away with certain stuff. Brexit for exaple, and a little bit of a conspiracy theory which may not be new to all - but it's really interesting nonetheless and shows how friends of the likes of Nigel Farage made a financial killing from insider trading whereby on referendum night, he released 2 concession statements (much to the bemusement of other leave campaigners).

    The first was released within seconds of the polls closing, and the second 92 minutes later had Farage saying that his friends in the city were telling him that their private polling was showing 'Remain' had won.

    These statements helped drive markets higher, Sterling surged to new highs and many firms who engaged in short selling made an enormous financial killing in the order of hundreds of millions when Sterling fell off a cliff at around 4 O'Clock the next morning.

    Bloomberg consider it a fact that Farage knew, definitely before the second concession statement and probably before the first one also, that this wasn't true and that he had access to the results of private exit polling companies 'YouGov' and 'Survation' which had been commissioned by Hedgefunds and had been illegally streaming their polling results to their hedgefund clients throughout that day in real time - and their results were actually showing 'Leave' as the winners of course. Farage had a long standing relationship with Damien Lyons Lowe, the CEO of Survation. Furthermore, 'YouGov' and 'Survation' had previously told broadcasters who had tried to hire their services that exit polling methods wouldn't work on Brexit

    Bloomberg have been investigating and their video here is less that 12 minutes long as is worth a watch

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2019-03-15/how-hedge-funds-gamed-brexit-to-make-millions-video


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    RobertKK wrote: »
    Churchill was a racist, ran concentration camps, had people tortured, threatened to invade Ireland in WW2, was responsible for the Black and Tans, the partition of Ireland, partition of the Indian sub continent, millions of deaths in India.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html

    Far from something good about Great Britain.

    You forgot global warming and the rise of the illuminati.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,137 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Aegir wrote: »
    You forgot global warming and the rise of the illuminati.




    What is it in his post you have a problem with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,975 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    You forgot global warming and the rise of the illuminati.

    The mythmaking about this odious man has been demolished. He got lucky when Hitler wasn't that bothered to push on into Britain and has been held up as some sort of paragon of bravery and heroism since.
    You are more likely to see a story about his archaic viewpoints than the Pinewood studio myth of a statesman these days.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Odhinn wrote: »
    What is it in his post you have a problem with?

    It is typical of the myths and bull**** that rolled out about Churchill. For starters, he was a 25 year old war correspondent during the Boer war, who was captured two weeks after arriving in the country, yet apparently he was somehow responsible for the concentration camps.

    Similarly with the use of gas quote that Francis used. The full quote is as follows:

    It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected

    Lachrymatory gas is the correct name for what is more commonly known as tear gas. What Churchill was advocating, was that rather than bombing and machine gunning the rebelling Arabs in what is now Iraq, they drop tear gas instead. I k now which option i would prefer if I was on the receiving end.

    then there are the statements about partitioning India and Ireland.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,137 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Aegir wrote: »
    It is typical of the (..............) and Ireland.....


    I've some bad news for you there

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/sep/01/winston-churchill-shocking-use-chemical-weapons


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/03/the-dark-side-of-winston-churchills-legacy-no-one-should-forget/?utm_term=.1cc9b8463832


    I presume that "camps" was a reference to kenya
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising


    And of course his attitude and actions during the bengal famine are well documented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,975 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    It is typical of the myths and bull**** that rolled out about Churchill. For starters, he was a 25 year old war correspondent during the Boer war, who was captured two weeks after arriving in the country, yet apparently he was somehow responsible for the concentration camps.

    Similarly with the use of gas quote that Francis used. The full quote is as follows:

    It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected

    Lachrymatory gas is the correct name for what is more commonly known as tear gas. What Churchill was advocating, was that rather than bombing and machine gunning the rebelling Arabs in what is now Iraq, they drop tear gas instead. I k now which option i would prefer if I was on the receiving end.

    then there are the statements about partitioning India and Ireland.....

    I am sure the 'uncivilised tribes' were grateful as we were supposed to be for the humanity of the great civiliser.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Churchill was a racist, ran concentration camps, had people tortured, threatened to invade Ireland in WW2, was responsible for the Black and Tans, the partition of Ireland, partition of the Indian sub continent, millions of deaths in India.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html

    Far from something good about Great Britain.

    Did you see the fabulous bronze bust of him with pride of place when trump met the Taoiseach?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    The Best of Grate Pretanī Part Dó

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    The Day Today

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,975 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Did you see the fabulous bronze bust of him with pride of place when trump met the Taoiseach?

    Trump and Churchill....hmmmm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Did you see the fabulous bronze bust of him with pride of place when trump met the Taoiseach?

    To many Americans, Churchill symbolises unflinching opposition to appeasement, first to Hitler, then during the cold war to Soviet communism.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There has been a Churchill bust in the White House since 1965.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    Aegir wrote: »
    There has been a Churchill bust in the White House since 1965.

    Obama wasn't keen on it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,975 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Obama wasn't keen on it though.

    Obama played the diplomat on that one, claiming it was leaving anyway. Interesting that another PM implicated in dubious war mongering, Tony Blair gave the copy of the original bust to the Whitehouse. Interesting in the sense of who likes to be associated with the guy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    Obama played the diplomat on that one, claiming it was leaving anyway. Interesting that another PM implicated in dubious war mongering, Tony Blair gave the copy of the original bust to the Whitehouse. Interesting in the sense of who likes to be associated with the guy.

    A true hero.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Winston_S._Churchill


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,975 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What is bollocks?

    Pretty much everything you post, but to be more precise, what you said about Obama removing the bust.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭crashadder


    whatever it is , irish cant seem to stop admiring Brits. thats been my impression for the last 3 years i've spent in Dublin. GB is like the super cool guy in high school that non popular kids admire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,975 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aegir wrote: »
    Pretty much everything you post, but to be more precise, what you said about Obama removing the bust.

    Where did I say that? Obama responded to Boris Johnson ranting in some British paper that he had 'removed' it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭dasdog


    If you're gonna credit Britain it's either through comedy or music or arts. Official Britain is a wound that is now only a scab on the world and healing. When it comes down to individuals they are usually alright people.



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