Apple Athenry data centre

05-12-2017 6:20pm

dok_golf wrote: »

Who's funding the objectors I wonder??

Who is funding the Athenry for Apple group I wonder

Cheshire Cat · 05-12-2017 9:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Who is funding the Athenry for Apple group I wonder

They are not going to the High Court, unlike the objectors. They don't need deep pockets.

pure.conya · 18-12-2017 1:12pm

dok_golf wrote: »

Who's funding the objectors I wonder??

bill gates?

the whole year inn · 18-12-2017 1:26pm

pure.conya wrote: »

bill gates?

Steve Jobs, just to bust balls.

L.Jenkins · 18-12-2017 1:56pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Who is funding the Athenry for Apple group I wonder

I don't think anyone is funding the objectors. Some People can just be bitter so and so's who love a good whinge for the sake of it.

Cheshire Cat · 18-12-2017 1:59pm

L.Jenkins wrote: »

I don't think anyone is funding the objectors. Some People can just be bitter so and so's who love a good whinge for the sake of it.

They must really love to whinge, if they are prepared to spend a lot of money on it :eek:

the whole year inn · 18-12-2017 2:19pm

L.Jenkins wrote: »

I don't think anyone is funding the objectors. Some People can just be bitter so and so's who love a good whinge for the sake of it.

This isn't go Joe Duffy there calling into.

L.Jenkins · 18-12-2017 2:34pm

Some don't need Joe Duffy.

jimmycrackcorm · 18-12-2017 2:38pm

L.Jenkins wrote:

I don't think anyone is funding the objectors. Some People can just be bitter so and so's who love a good whinge for the sake of it.

Ironically they'll be the same people who have iPhones and save their data in iCloud.

the whole year inn · 18-12-2017 2:38pm

L.Jenkins wrote: »

Some don't need Joe Duffy.

Yea a lengthy court battle ,with court fees and name smeared in the paper and online,such a whinge there doing.

the whole year inn · 18-12-2017 2:44pm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Ironically they'll be the same people who have iPhones and save their data in iCloud.

The shame ,because that what the protest is against iPhones and iCloud .

CrowdedHouse · 18-12-2017 7:06pm

the whole year inn wrote: »

The shame ,because that what the protest is against iPhones and iCloud .

Well that's a good enough reason

gctest50 · 18-12-2017 7:46pm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Ironically they'll be the same people who have iPhones and save their data in iCloud.

yip, typical

He met his wife, who is Irish, online — an encounter he deems ironic given that her profile photo was likely stored in the kind of data center he is now fighting tooth-and-nail to block

http://bit.ly/2jcvRNO

What its really about :

He now works remotely for the Sacramento-based environmental and engineering consultancy Sierra Research, which specializes in air-quality and climate change regulatory compliance.

He writes the type of environmental impact statements he says are lacking in Ireland’s planning process.

Daly is of average height and build, and keeps his black hair short. He grew up in Pennsylvania and graduated from Penn State in 1996 with a degree in environmental resources management. He worked in New Jersey and California, first in the private sector and then for an enforcement agency issuing licences monitoring air quality regulations, before love brought him to Ireland in 2009.

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19-12-2017 12:29am

gctest50 wrote: »

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Please look up "keyboard warrior"

gctest50 · 19-12-2017 12:34am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Please look up "keyboard warrior"

Try learning to read sometime, great gift to yourself

halfway down this :

https://bit.ly/2jcvRNO

you get this :

One member of the group {Athenry for Apple} told me during my visit that if Daly didn’t stop objecting to major projects, he’d end up like Michael McCoy, a serial objector to building projects in Dublin who late last year was found beaten to death. “People are openly saying he better leave town if Apple doesn’t come to Athenry,” the man said. (He didn’t want to be named out of fear of recrimination.)

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/as-an-environmentalist-and-serial-objector-michael-mccoy-had-his-enemies-but-who-would-have-wanted-him-dead-35422751.html

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biko · 19-12-2017 4:39pm

gctest50 wrote: »

Try learning to read sometime, great gift to yourself

Threadbanned until Xmas Day

pure.conya · 20-12-2017 4:11pm

gctest50 wrote: »

Try learning to read sometime, great gift to yourself

halfway down this :

https://bit.ly/2jcvRNO

you get this :

One member of the group {Athenry for Apple} told me during my visit that if Daly didn’t stop objecting to major projects, he’d end up like Michael McCoy, a serial objector to building projects in Dublin who late last year was found beaten to death. “People are openly saying he better leave town if Apple doesn’t come to Athenry,” the man said. (He didn’t want to be named out of fear of recrimination.)

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/as-an-environmentalist-and-serial-objector-michael-mccoy-had-his-enemies-but-who-would-have-wanted-him-dead-35422751.html

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stupid bastards are off their heads if they think there's jobs for their little johnny or mary when the finish school, these are data centres are all automated and require so few people to maintain to guarantee security and keep costs down to a bare minimum

20-12-2017 4:38pm

pure.conya wrote: »

stupid bastards are off their heads if they think there's jobs for their little johnny or mary when the finish school, these are data centres are all automated and require so few people to maintain to guarantee security and keep costs down to a bare minimum

That's been covered numerous times in this thread. No it wasn't going to be 4000 jobs like in Cork but the carpark had about 70 spaces. 50 full time, permanent jobs would have been a boost to the area.

Anyway it's gone now. If I was this objectors I'd be looking over my shoulder.

pure.conya · 20-12-2017 4:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

That's been covered numerous times in this thread. No it wasn't going to be 4000 jobs like in Cork but the carpark had about 70 spaces. 50 full time, permanent jobs would have been a boost to the area.

Anyway it's gone now. If I was this objectors I'd be looking over my shoulder.

so would i because none so dangerous than a thick as $hit hysterical redneck losing their tiny minds over something they know damn all about

so the basis for believing there were to be 50 full-time jobs was on a bit of bitumen rolled out, omg this is the joke that just keeps on giving, so we're down from people losing the plot about hundreds of imaginary longterm jobs in the factory to 50 because a truck load of tar was being bought to create 70 spaces apple can well afford to leave empty

20-12-2017 4:57pm

pure.conya wrote: »

so would i because none so dangerous than a thick as $hit hysterical redneck losing their tiny minds over something they know damn all about

so the basis for believing there were to be 50 full-time jobs was on a bit of bitumen rolled out, omg this is the joke that just keeps on giving, so we're down from people losing the plot about hundreds of imaginary longterm jobs in the factory to 50 because a truck load of tar was being bought to create 70 spaces apple can well afford to leave empty

I'm from near Athenry. I supported the DC. By the way I work SecOps in a DC so I know something about them.

Also, post reported for offensive language.

dubhthach · 20-12-2017 5:42pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm from near Athenry. I supported the DC. By the way I work SecOps in a DC so I know something about them.

Seconded, I've got several racks worth of kit in two datacenters in Dublin as part of my day job. What is proposed for Athenry if fully build would at a minimum require 50+ staff, given the salaries involved it's not something to be sneezed at. But perhaps the community doens't need ~€3m of additional wages pumped into it per annum

Leaving that aside, there is currently no large data centers outside of Greater Dublin region let alone 'hyperscale' ones (such as been built by Facebook in Clonee or by Amazon). The experience building such a datacenter in Athenry would give local contractors essential experience in the field, which would actually make the west of Ireland more attractive for third party developers of DC's. That and with the Fibre cable landing in Mayo there's nice low latency link across the Atlantic to the East Coast.

pure.conya · 20-12-2017 6:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm from near Athenry. I supported the DC. By the way I work SecOps in a DC so I know something about them.

Also, post reported for offensive language.

so my reply to a post that stated the objector better keep their head down after it was pointed out somebody connected to the athenry for apple was highlighting a previous objectors fate and suggesting they might end up beaten to death by hyterical country folk is reported for offensive language?

it appears yer all off yer heads if ye can report me for "offensive" language while ye totally ignore the fact somebody life has been threatened

20-12-2017 6:29pm

pure.conya wrote: »

so my reply to a post that stated the objector better keep their head down after it was pointed out somebody connected to the athenry for apple was highlighting a previous objectors fate and suggesting they might end up beaten to death by hyterical country folk is reported for offensive language?

it appears yer all off yer heads if ye can report me for "offensive" language while ye totally ignore the fact somebody life has been threatened

Thick as s*it, hysterical redneck s etc etc etc.

Honestly can't decide whether you're a troll or just ignorant.

fergiesfolly · 20-12-2017 6:32pm

pure.conya wrote: »

so my reply to a post that stated the objector better keep their head down after it was pointed out somebody connected to the athenry for apple was highlighting a previous objectors fate and suggesting they might end up beaten to death by hyterical country folk is reported for offensive language?

it appears yer all off yer heads if ye can report me for "offensive" language while ye totally ignore the fact somebody life has been threatened

I think it was the " thick as $hit hysterical redneck losing their tiny minds" line that would've done for you.
No need to insult anyone when you're trying to make a point.

pure.conya · 20-12-2017 7:05pm

gctest50 wrote: »

Try learning to read sometime, great gift to yourself

halfway down this :

https://bit.ly/2jcvRNO

you get this :

One member of the group {Athenry for Apple} told me during my visit that if Daly didn’t stop objecting to major projects, he’d end up like Michael McCoy, a serial objector to building projects in Dublin who late last year was found beaten to death. “People are openly saying he better leave town if Apple doesn’t come to Athenry,” the man said. (He didn’t want to be named out of fear of recrimination.)

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/as-an-environmentalist-and-serial-objector-michael-mccoy-had-his-enemies-but-who-would-have-wanted-him-dead-35422751.html

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Deleted User wrote: »

That's been covered numerous times in this thread. No it wasn't going to be 4000 jobs like in Cork but the carpark had about 70 spaces. 50 full time, permanent jobs would have been a boost to the area.

Anyway it's gone now. If I was this objectors I'd be looking over my shoulder.

Deleted User wrote: »

Thick as s*it, hysterical redneck s etc etc etc.

Honestly can't decide whether you're a troll or just ignorant.

fergiesfolly wrote: »

I think it was the " thick as $hit hysterical redneck losing their tiny minds" line that would've done for you.
No need to insult anyone when you're trying to make a point.

let me remind ye i was replying to the comments in bold highlighted above and my reply was general observation that wasn't aimed at anybody in particular on this board, i totally stand by my comments as it appears gctest50 knows the identity of a thick as $hit hysterical redneck in athenry that is openly suggesting the objector could end up beaten to death like a previous objector in Dublin. I'll go one further and suggest that if this idiot that was talking to gctest50 made such a serious threat within earshot of me i'd thump the head off of him. talk about small town mentality and out with the pitchforks. any of the "hardmen" of athenry give a damn that their childrens children were saddled with banking debt for the next 40 years??

biko · 20-12-2017 7:50pm

pure.conya threadbanned until 2018

Gadgetman496 · 09-02-2018 3:44pm

Supreme Court reserves judgment in Apple application

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0209/939429-apple-appeal/

dubhthach · 09-02-2018 7:56pm

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Supreme Court reserves judgment in Apple application

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0209/939429-apple-appeal/

Interesting Apple recently took two 100Gb/s ports on the INEX in Dublin as well as a number of 10Gb/s on INEX-Cork for peering.

Gadgetman496 · 03-05-2018 3:12am

Supreme Court to hear Apple data centre appeal.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0502/959854-data-centre-athenry/

flazio · 10-05-2018 9:09am

It's over.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0510/961460-apple-athenry/

ArielAtom · 10-05-2018 9:09am

Apple shelve plans for Athenry, well done to the objectors, great job for Ireland!!!!!!

Breaston Plants · 10-05-2018 9:11am

Can someone explain how a fella in Wicklow can object? Wouldn't know much about it.

10-05-2018 9:12am

Well, that’s it. The NIMBYs win. Athenry remains a Local Town for Local People.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/961460/

Doctors room ghost · 10-05-2018 9:14am

ArielAtom wrote: »

Apple shelve plans for Athenry, well done to the objectors, great job for Ireland!!!!!!

The day they announced apple were coming to Athenry a female councilor in Oranmore was on Galway bay saying great news for Galway.we need to get apple to fix the train line to Tuam now to commute up the workers.
Fukn laughable.paddy Irish man had this project fukd from day one.well done lads.clap fukn clap

marno21 · 10-05-2018 9:15am

Breaston Plants wrote: »

Can someone explain how a fella in Wicklow can object? Wouldn't know much about it.

Because the law allows him to. Which badly needs reform, this unfortunate mess may help kick start that

TheIrishGrover · 10-05-2018 9:17am

Queue "What about jobs outside of Dublin???!!! What about the rest of us???!!!" Hope your f*cking tourism industry looking at empty f*cking fields makes up for the loss. Numpties!

Doctors room ghost · 10-05-2018 9:25am

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

Queue "What about jobs outside of Dublin???!!! What about the rest of us???!!!" Hope your f*cking tourism industry looking at empty f*cking fields makes up for the loss. Numpties!

Cannon is on now trying to work the crocodile tears.

Fitz* · 10-05-2018 10:13am

What a disaster.....fools. absolute fools

Raging_Ninja · 10-05-2018 11:17am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well, that’s it. The NIMBYs win. Athenry remains a Local Town for Local People.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/961460/

Been told that the family of the architect in Athenry who objected are pretty much pariahs over this.

I've said it before in this thread and I'll say it again - this is a huge warning to anybody who is thinking of a big infrastructure project that they are better off taking the money and jobs to another country.

connemara man · 10-05-2018 11:43am

The whole planning system needs a complete overhaul. Whether you were in favor of this or not the fact it took so long is a farce,

Larbre34 · 10-05-2018 11:48am

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

Been told that the family of the architect in Athenry who objected are pretty much pariahs over this.

I've said it before in this thread and I'll say it again - this is a huge warning to anybody who is thinking of a big infrastructure project that they are better off taking the money and jobs to another country.

Pariah might be the least of their problems. Remember how physically nasty things turned in Cavan / Fermanagh against some of the perceived villains in the Quinn Group collapse?

Varadkar said months ago that he was inclined to add data centres and the like as 'strategic infrastructure' to planning legislation, which would raise the bar on objections and short-cut the process. That was always going to be too late for Athenry, but the concern is that the legislation will go so far as a knee-jerk that it wipes out legitimate objections when they arise.

These fools have probably disenfranchised local interests in a lot of future cases, such was there vexatiousness

Salthillprom · 10-05-2018 11:58am

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

Been told that the family of the architect in Athenry who objected are pretty much pariahs over this.

I've said it before in this thread and I'll say it again - this is a huge warning to anybody who is thinking of a big infrastructure project that they are better off taking the money and jobs to another country.

Those local objectors/people who appealed are a disgrace to themselves, to Galway, to their localities and their families and should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

RoscommonTom · 10-05-2018 12:01pm

between this and the story about the hurling club their seems to be a lot of Fools down that neck of the woods, no jobs at all down this part of the world and the locals turn their backs on these ones,

Nettle Soup · 10-05-2018 12:02pm

Salthillprom wrote: »

Those local objectors/people who appealed are a disgrace to themselves, to Galway, to their localities and their families and should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

Ah get a grip. A lot more smoke and mirrors involved here than you can even comprehend.

...so can we ask for the 13 Billion Euros in back taxes now?

10-05-2018 12:16pm

Salthillprom wrote: »

Those local objectors/people who appealed are a disgrace to themselves, to Galway, to their localities and their families and should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

+100, they should be shunned for the rest of their days by the entire locality.

Nettle Soup wrote: »

...so can we ask for the 13 Billion Euros in back taxes now?

No, this money should not and will not be taken (or it will be taken and given back). In general the the EU is a good thing but this is nothing more than the likes of France pushing their weight around while offering similar deals themselves behind it all. Our tax affairs should be ours and the middle finger should be given to the EU over this. I'm confident Ireland and apple will win the case anyway.

Larbre34 · 10-05-2018 12:16pm

Nettle Soup wrote: »

Ah get a grip. A lot more smoke and mirrors involved here than you can even comprehend.

...so can we ask for the 13 Billion Euros in back taxes now?

Why dont you break it down for us? One syllable at a time for us thickies please

The EU tax decision that neither Ireland nor Apple wanted has zero to do with the Athenry data centre issue and, as im sure you know well, is being further appealed with the money in escrow.

Nettle Soup · 10-05-2018 12:28pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

Why dont you break it down for us? One syllable at a time for us thickies please

I couldn't be arsed. Anyway the mob are busy gathering torches and pitchforks.

Nettle Soup · 10-05-2018 12:29pm

Johnny Poor Lemonade wrote: »

+100, they should be shunned for the rest of their days by the entire locality.

Very Christian of you.

Pathetic.

10-05-2018 12:33pm

Nettle Soup wrote: »

Very Christian of you.

Pathetic.

Someday you may be in tears putting your child on a plane abroad to get a job or send them up to Dublin to fight it out for a room to sleep in. If/when it happens think of today as its this sort of bull that stops job creation and means people have to leave their areas no matter how much they want to stay as they can't find work.

This could have been huge for Co. Galway and the west if Ireland in general and now its gone.

Nettle Soup · 10-05-2018 12:39pm

Johnny Poor Lemonade wrote: »

Someday you may be in tears putting your child on a plane abroad to get a job or send them up to Dublin to fight it out for a room to sleep in. If/when it happens think of today as its this sort of bull that stops job creation and means people have to leave their areas no matter how much they want to stay as they can't find work.

This could have been huge for Co. Galway and the west if Ireland in general and now its gone.

This waffle does not excuse your scapegoating.

they should be shunned for the rest of their days by the entire locality.

Would you have their kids bullied at school too?

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