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CNN tracks down random reddit meme poster and threatens to release his information

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  • #2
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,298 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Where exactly did they threaten to release his info?

    It states they aren't doing it specifically because hes a private citizen.

    Also a bit rich when the alt-right start complaining about doxxing......


  • #3
    Erik Shin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Erik Shin


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Where exactly did they threaten to release his info?

    It states they aren't doing it specifically because hes a private citizen.

    Also a bit rich when the alt-right start complaining about doxxing......

    You should read the article...they clearly stated that if the person does. anything else they will release his information


  • #4
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    You should read the article...they clearly stated that if the person does. anything else they will release his information

    Agree! It's also clearly a message to others. That Trump tweet had 600k likes, prob not good for their bottom line.


  • #5
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,298 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Erik Shin wrote: »
    You should read the article...they clearly stated that if the person does. anything else they will release his information

    Fair enough, but it sounds like he didn't make it too hard to be found so good luck with that.

    Again its funny that the alt-right are suddenly so concerned about doxxing.

    Breitbart have doxxed quite a number of people in their time but there's been no issues with it.


  • #6
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Fair enough, but it sounds like he didn't make it too hard to be found so good luck with that.

    Again its funny that the alt-right are suddenly so concerned about doxxing.

    Breitbart have doxxed quite a number of people in their time but there's been no issues with it.

    Out of interest, what private Citizens have Breitbart doxxed?


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  • #7
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Funny how racists always start crying when people might find out they're racists. It's almost like it's not OK.

    Anyway, this is very far from doxxing. He's not being extorted or blackmailed or threatened. If anything they're protecting him by giving him the opportunity to go quietly into the night. Breitbart or the Daily Mail would just publish.

    They also didn't say that they would release his information if he did anything else. The provided a rider for legal purposes which maintains their right to publish this information in the future.


  • #8
    DontThankMe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Yeah they said if acts the bollox again:

    "CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change."

    Personally i didn't think trumps tweet was too bad i took for what it was a joke but maybe, this will stop other trolls from going over the top once they realise they may not be protected by online anonymity anymore.


  • #9
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    seamus wrote: »

    They also didn't say that they would release his information if he did anything else. The provided a rider for legal purposes which maintains their right to publish this information in the future.

    They clearly hinted at it.

    I'll have to side with Assange's interpretation.

    https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/882440859370868737


  • #10
    kupus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    So the Clinton News Network are into doxing now, well I suppose it makes a change from the fake news they concoct.


  • #11
    BillyBobBS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    CNN. Fake news network.


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  • #12
    Nermal
    Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Nermal


    This comes over as bullying behaviour really, especially in the almost sneering tone of their article. Amazing that CNN can't see that, it's quite a mis-step for them.


  • #13
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    seamus wrote: »
    Funny how racists always start crying when people might find out they're racists. It's almost like it's not OK.

    What in the tweet was racist?


  • #14
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Nermal wrote: »
    This comes over as bullying behaviour really, especially in the almost sneering tone of their article. Amazing that CNN can't see that, it's quite a mis-step for them.

    "Exclusive"

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/882410884445999105


  • #15
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    DontThankMe wrote: »
    Yeah they said if acts the bollox again:

    "CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change."

    Personally i didn't think trumps tweet was too bad i took for what it was a joke but maybe, this will stop other trolls from going over the top once they realise they may not be protected by online anonymity anymore.

    Only reason they know who he is is that he contacted them to apologise.

    So it's a great lesson to never apologise and carry on ****ing with the retards on CNN.

    EDIT:

    Just looked over some of the CNN tweets reporting on this and a lot of the reply are more CNN memes

    We got spartens kicking CNN into holes and wonder woman kicking CNN through a wall.


  • #16
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Well this went down the garden path. I don't think they should have printed that line but it may be required from a legal perspective.

    They have quite clearly not doxed this person and I don't know if any bullying took place. If it did they were obviously not going to print it.

    Weird one alright. I can see why they identified him. If anything does happen to a cnn journalist he would be a suspect. While it is just a joke it is the sort of thing people point to in hindsight after an incident occurs as why didn't they cop this might happen.

    It does not seem to need an article either. I guess they wanted to make a point of the apology but not really news.


  • #17
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The internet will nuke CNN
    Here's how @CNN #CNNBlackmail went down, from insider at @CNN that spiilled the beans on 4Chan.

    DD8xbPiUAAAsXHd.jpg

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #18
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    I thoughtvthe CNN meme was funny.


    This is a stupid move by CNN.

    Every web meme maker, on hacktivist, etc is going to spend their time attacking CNN.


    Way to really screw yourselves over lads.


  • #19
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I know the weather is crazy nowadays but I've never seem so many snowflakes in July. :P

    Yer man is a bit of an arsehole lads, he got called up on it, he pissed himself and apologized. So what?


  • #20
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I know the weather is crazy nowadays but I've never seem so many snowflakes in July. :P

    Yer man is a bit of an arsehole lads, he got called up on it, he pissed himself and apologized. So what?

    "he got pulled up on it"? so you wouldn't have a problem with a global media outfit targeting you for you something you posted because it happened to go viral?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #21
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Pro-tip:

    If you're afraid that what you say or do online might affect your life, your relationships, your job, then perhaps you shouldn't say or do those things.

    You're likely not as anonymous as you think you are. If you don't have the balls to do it with your identity known, don't do it behind your keyboard.


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  • #22
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    silverharp wrote: »
    "he got pulled up on it"? so you wouldn't have a problem with a global media outfit targeting you for you something you posted because it happened to go viral?

    I wouldn't have a problem with a global media outfit trying to find who was targeting them, no.

    And for the record, Rupert Murdoch is a bloodsucking wanker, and I'm here seven days a week S*n scum! :)


  • #23
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    What in the tweet was racist?
    Read the article in the OP.


  • #24
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    They clearly hinted at it.

    I'll have to side with Assange's interpretation.
    Unfortunately Assange doesn't have much credibility when it comes to the definition of "journalism" considering the mountain of information he claims to be sitting on for the purposes of influencing governments.

    Pot, meet kettle.


  • #25
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    seamus wrote: »
    Read the article in the OP.

    Again what in that tweet that made then target him was racist?

    Posts etc, I can see.

    I actually think more people should be called out fir posting racist inciteful hateful stuff on the Internet but are CNN now the Internet police?

    I hope they are powering up the troll trace


  • #26
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Pro-tip:

    If you're afraid that what you say or do online might affect your life, your relationships, your job, then perhaps you shouldn't say or do those things.

    You're likely not as anonymous as you think you are. If you don't have the balls to do it with your identity known, don't do it behind your keyboard.

    Do we need an independent organisation to decide which memes are acceptable?

    CNN broadcast their own crap without repercussion. Special homage to the Trump puppet at the 1 min mark



  • #27
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I know the weather is crazy nowadays but I've never seem so many snowflakes in July. :P

    Yer man is a bit of an arsehole lads, he got called up on it, he pissed himself and apologized. So what?

    Because only Reddit members are supposed to do such things. It's simply not cricket when someone finds out their real identity.


  • #28
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭circadian


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    What in the tweet was racist?

    The tweet wasn't but his posting record is full if racist, anti semitic drivel.

    I'm not sure how I feel about this one and I wonder about the methods which CNN used to get this persons information. I'd certainly be concerned about their threats of demanding a stop to their posting otherwise they'll out them.

    I suspect the likes of Breitbart or Alex Jones or whoever would immediately out a person if the shoe was on the other foot but this is still unacceptable from a journalistic view.

    They would have been better off to leave it as it is and let Trump and his memesters be their own downfall.


  • #29
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I wouldn't have a problem with a global media outfit trying to find who was targeting them, no.

    And for the record, Rupert Murdoch is a bloodsucking wanker, and I'm here seven days a week S*n scum! :)

    He wasn't targeting CNN as such, it was political satire based on current events, pretty much the same as when there used to be newspapers, they used to have satirical cartoons in em.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #30
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,235 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    They're not threatening him or blackmailing him. He apologised himself, and promised he would stop. So CNN decided to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his apology and not release his info. They're simply just saying that if he turns back on his promise to stop and his apology, the benefit of the doubt is gone and they will release his info.

    If a garda lets you off with a warning for something and a month later catches you doing the same thing again and charges you, he hadn't threatened or blackmailed you by giving you the warning the previous time.


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  • #31
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Because only Reddit members are supposed to do such things. It's simply not cricket when someone finds out their real identity.

    Aye, you can't keep sticking a wavin pipe up a cow's hole and not be expecting a kick.


  • #32
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Penn wrote: »
    They're not threatening him or blackmailing him. He apologised himself, and promised he would stop. So CNN decided to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his apology and not release his info. They're simply just saying that if he turns back on his promise to stop and his apology, the benefit of the doubt is gone and they will release his info.

    If a garda lets you off with a warning for something and a month later catches you doing the same thing again and charges you, he hadn't threatened or blackmailed you by giving you the warning the previous time.

    Cnn are not the police. This individual is a horrific person imo. I still don't think CNN should release his info unless he commits a crime. They have not so far at least.


  • #33
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Penn wrote: »
    They're not threatening him or blackmailing him. He apologised himself, and promised he would stop. So CNN decided to give him the benefit of the doubt based on his apology and not release his info. They're simply just saying that if he turns back on his promise to stop and his apology, the benefit of the doubt is gone and they will release his info.

    If a garda lets you off with a warning for something and a month later catches you doing the same thing again and charges you, he hadn't threatened or blackmailed you by giving you the warning the previous time.

    your analogy fails with gardai, if the gardai collar you its because you have broken the law.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #34
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    silverharp wrote: »
    He wasn't targeting CNN as such, it was political satire based on current events, pretty much the same as when there used to be newspapers, they used to have satirical cartoons in em.

    There were newspapers in the olden times that didn't have editors and owners that were accountable for what was printed? When were these halcyon days?


  • #35
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    This one made me LOL.

    https://twitter.com/immigrant4trump/status/882477858404413440


  • #36
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    What's brilliant about this is those that throw that ****ty phrase 'snowflake' around at anyone who doesn't agree with them have become the epitome of their phrase.

    It's like a blizzard in here.


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  • #37
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    There were newspapers in the olden times that didn't have editors and owners that were accountable for what was printed? When were these halcyon days?

    A cartoon version of that meme would not be offensive, companies would not have embarrassed themselves by drawing attention to it.

    Its just another example of legacy media not getting social media. Its also hilarious that a 71 year old President knows the Art of the Sh1tposting :pac:

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #38
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    There were newspapers in the olden times that didn't have editors and owners that were accountable for what was printed? When were these halcyon days?

    So your logic is, the people posting Trump memes in the funny pics forum on boards are accountable for their actions and Trump should be able to publicly call them out and threaten to release their info?

    If Fox news did this to an Obama supporter the reactions on this thread by certain individuals would be flipped.


  • #39
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,235 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Cnn are not the police. This individual is a horrific person imo. I still don't think CNN should release his info unless he commits a crime. They have not so far at least.
    silverharp wrote: »
    your analogy fails with gardai, if the gardai collar you its because you have broken the law.

    Same principle applies though. The guy apologised on Reddit so CNN, who could have released his info, decided not to, based on his apology. If he then starts doing the same thing again, CNN are saying they then will release his info.

    It's not a threat. It's a gesture of goodwill that they're not releasing his info because he apologised. They're simply saying if he rescinds his apology, the goodwill is gone. They're essentially letting him off with a warning.


  • #40
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Penn wrote: »

    It's not a threat. It's a gesture of goodwill that they're not releasing his info because he apologised.

    Lmao. It's clearly a threat and a threat to all those creating anti CNN material.

    He is a private citizen who photo-shopped a CNN logo on Vince McMahon and because of that his life could be ruined, and seemingly you have no problem with that.


  • #41
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    So your logic is, the people posting Trump memes in the funny pics forum on boards are accountable for their actions and Trump should be able to publicly call them out and threaten to release their info?

    If Fox news did this to an Obama supporter the reactions on this thread by certain individuals would be flipped.

    You think people shouldn't be accountable for their actions?


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    So your logic is, the people posting Trump memes in the funny pics forum on boards are accountable for their actions and Trump should be able to publicly call them out and threaten to release their info?

    If Fox news did this to an Obama supporter the reactions on this thread by certain individuals would be flipped.

    You should always be accountable for your actions, regardless of the perceived severity. Again, if you can't stand by what you do online with people knowing who you are, don't do it. This dude couldn't and he's reaping the consequences of that. It's all about accountability, regardless of anonymity.

    Too many people believe a username gives them a pass to be assh*les and say what they would never in real life.


  • #43
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    You think people shouldn't be accountable for their actions?

    Nice dodge.


  • #44
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,064 ✭✭✭Christy42


    silverharp wrote: »
    A cartoon version of that meme would not be offensive, companies would not have embarrassed themselves by drawing attention to it.

    Its just another example of legacy media not getting social media. Its also hilarious that a 71 year old President knows the Art of the Sh1tposting :pac:

    The president should not be flaming a war between himself and the media. He is an idiot and should not have tweeted that.

    @Penn Why should they release his info? Is it morally wrong as it could lead to reprisals.


  • #45
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    This one made me LOL.

    https://twitter.com/immigrant4trump/status/882477858404413440

    Begun it has, the meme wars


  • #46
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Given the harmless nature of the meme and being articulated under the protected speech laws that apply (which include anonymous ) then this overreaction by the major media company is over the top and makes strange bedfellows for the left who usually decry the power that big business has over individuals.


  • #47
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Deleted User wrote: »

    Too many people believe a username gives them a pass to be assh*les and say what they would never in real life.

    It's an internet meme, not a plot to blow up CNN hq. By your logic Trump has a right to go after millions of people who made anti Trump memes and get their identities. Would you be ok with that?

    How do you feel about CNN airing puppets impersonating Trump, or Comedians making fun of him, can he go after them to?


  • #48
    TPD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Penn wrote: »
    Same principle applies though. The guy apologised on Reddit so CNN, who could have released his info, decided not to, based on his apology. If he then starts doing the same thing again, CNN are saying they then will release his info.

    It's not a threat. It's a gesture of goodwill that they're not releasing his info because he apologised. They're simply saying if he rescinds his apology, the goodwill is gone. They're essentially letting him off with a warning.

    Letting him off with a warning for something which isn't a crime...


  • #49
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,676 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    What's brilliant about this is those that throw that ****ty phrase 'snowflake' around at anyone who doesn't agree with them have become the epitome of their phrase.

    It's like a blizzard in here.

    that doesn't fit, being snowflakey means throwing a wobbly because someone expresses an opinion you don't agree with. How is that relevant here?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #50
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    It's an internet meme, not a plot to blow up CNN hq. By your logic Trump has a right to go after millions of people who made anti Trump memes. Would you be ok with that?

    And yet you're OK with a world leader posting internet memes? Targeting major news publications? You can honestly say if our Taoiseach did the same to... RTÉ news you wouldn't cry foul?

    What you perceive as acceptable and not seems very skewed...


  • #51
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Also a bit rich when the alt-right start complaining about doxxing......
    VinLieger wrote: »

    Again its funny that the alt-right are suddenly so concerned about doxxing.

    Breitbart have doxxed quite a number of people in their time but there's been no issues with it.
    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Out of interest, what private Citizens have Breitbart doxxed?

    Aghhhh Dox overload!!

    What does doxxing mean???


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