2020 Executive Officer Civil Service

tomjmsn · 18-01-2021 7:55pm

BM14murph wrote: »

Anybody know when we’ll hear about stage 1 interview results? I completely forgot to ask them for a timeframe.

How did your interview go? I feel so under pressure after getting through all the stages to this one - wouldn't want to fall at the final hurdle. Any advice for my prep?

BM14murph · 18-01-2021 9:14pm

tomjmsn wrote: »

How did your interview go? I feel so under pressure after getting through all the stages to this one - wouldn't want to fall at the final hurdle. Any advice for my prep?

I think it well thanks mate. Cautiously optimistic.

Have an example for each of the 5/6 competencies and make sure you know them. The STAR system is a great way of preparing.

Situation - How did the issue arise or the background of the story.

Task - What your plan was

Action - What you actually did

Result - closing statement on the whole thing.

I had two lovely interviewers who really made me feel comfortable and I imagine you will to.

Best of luck and make sure you have some water! ðŸ˜‚

redmgar · 19-01-2021 8:28am

BM14murph wrote: »

I think it well thanks mate. Cautiously optimistic.

Have an example for each of the 5/6 competencies and make sure you know them. The STAR system is a great way of preparing.

Situation - How did the issue arise or the background of the story.

Task - What your plan was

Action - What you actually did

Result - closing statement on the whole thing.

I had two lovely interviewers who really made me feel comfortable and I imagine you will to.

Best of luck and make sure you have some water! &#55357;&#56834;

You wont fail the interview, its just a matter of doing your best to be placed high enough.

facade · 19-01-2021 9:32am

Also be prepared to answer questions about Our Public Service 2020, and the ethos of the civil service

Dublintigger · 19-01-2021 10:53am

Augme wrote: »

From what I've found a massive percentage of those who are happy to stay as career EOs are married women who's partner would be the primary earned in the household. The too of the EO scale, even after just 6-10 years, isn't that bad as a secondary income so I can definitely understand the decision to stay there if you have got family and kids and a husband who earns more, or similar if you live outside of Dublin too. There is a big jump in pressure and responsibility from EO to HEO so I can definitely dee and respect why people stay as HEO.

However, for the long term EOs who want to HEO and haven't passed HEO interviews then that is a worry.

There's a significant amount of HEOs who are extreme bad as well.

I have to agree on that point on HEO's..... there are a few of them around!
I'm lucky in the sense that I am working with a HEO who believes in team work and interaction from all of us - CO's and EO's - and encourages you to progress and move forward. I've learnt a lot from them.
However my friend is working for a HEO that only talks to you when they need you to do something, treats the CO appallingly (tantamount to bullying in some instances!) - it has been quite distressing for my friend.

Seesee · 19-01-2021 3:17pm

BM14murph wrote: »

Anybody know when we’ll hear about stage 1 interview results? I completely forgot to ask them for a timeframe.

I sent an email a few days after my interview early January and got a reply to say results would come through public jobs message board in the coming weeks. So a bit vague but I’d be hopeful to hear something by end of the month?

BM14murph · 20-01-2021 11:17am

Seesee wrote: »

I sent an email a few days after my interview early January and got a reply to say results would come through public jobs message board in the coming weeks. So a bit vague but I’d be hopeful to hear something by end of the month?

Hopefully my friend. The anticipation for the results is worse than the anticipation for the interview itself! lol

11amie11 · 20-01-2021 6:20pm

Hi everyone, can someone explain to me how the interview results work? What exactly is your order of merit? For example, say it was 10, are you in a group of people at number 10 or are you number 10 on the list to get a job ? Thanks

11amie11 · 20-01-2021 6:28pm

11amie11 wrote: »

Hi everyone, can someone explain to me how the interview results work? What exactly is your order of merit? For example, say it was 10, are you in a group of people at number 10 or are you number 10 on the list to get a job ? Thanks

I got an email saying my order of merit was 1. I didnt do a great interview so I'm assuming there Is no way this meant I'm 1 on the panel. I got an email a few minutes later saying I'm number 7 merit. I still dont think I did well enough to score this, so now im anticipating another email with a higher number. Has anyone any idea if the order or merit is like oom?

gestappo · 20-01-2021 6:37pm

11amie11 wrote: »

I got an email saying my order of merit was 1. I didnt do a great interview so I'm assuming there Is no way this meant I'm 1 on the panel. I got an email a few minutes later saying I'm number 7 merit. I still dont think I did well enough to score this, so now im anticipating another email with a higher number. Has anyone any idea if the order or merit is like oom?

Did they mess up the results again???

Congratulations on passing!! Fantastic result!

11amie11 · 20-01-2021 6:44pm

gestappo wrote: »

Did they mess up the results again???

Congratulations on passing!! Fantastic result!

Hi! Thanks so much, honestly thought I'd failed a couple of competencies!

Anyway, I've just realised I'm an idiot! The first email was inderdepartemental and second was open score. I'm still convinced an email is going to come through saying they're wrong, I'm in shock!! Thanks again!

facade · 20-01-2021 6:54pm

11amie11 wrote: »

Hi! Thanks so much, honestly thought I'd failed a couple of competencies!

Anyway, I've just realised I'm an idiot! The first email was inderdepartemental and second was open score. I'm still convinced an email is going to come through saying they're wrong, I'm in shock!! Thanks again!

Congrats! You wont be long hearing from them regarding a post!

Can I ask how long you were waiting for your interview result?

11amie11 · 20-01-2021 6:55pm

facade wrote: »

Congrats! You wont be long hearing from them regarding a post!

Can I ask how long you were waiting for your interview result?

Thanks so much! Ye no worries, my interview was on the 8th of January and I got the result this evening, so not even two weeks. Pretty quick considering how long the e-tray results took!

gestappo · 20-01-2021 6:58pm

11amie11 wrote: »

Thanks so much! Ye no worries, my interview was on the 8th of January and I got the result this evening, so not even two weeks. Pretty quick considering how long the e-tray results took!

How did you find the whole ‘camera’ interview?

facade · 20-01-2021 6:58pm

11amie11 wrote: »

Thanks so much! Ye no worries, my interview was on the 8th of January and I got the result this evening, so not even two weeks. Pretty quick considering how long the e-tray results took!

That is really quick considering.... fingers crossed for you to hear about a post soon!

11amie11 · 20-01-2021 7:23pm

gestappo wrote: »

How did you find the whole ‘camera’ interview?

Check your mail

BonnieSituation · 20-01-2021 10:10pm

gestappo wrote: »

How did you find the whole ‘camera’ interview?

11amie11 wrote: »

Check your mail

Now I'm intrigued...

Seesee · 21-01-2021 1:56am

11amie11 wrote: »

I got an email saying my order of merit was 1. I didnt do a great interview so I'm assuming there Is no way this meant I'm 1 on the panel. I got an email a few minutes later saying I'm number 7 merit. I still dont think I did well enough to score this, so now im anticipating another email with a higher number. Has anyone any idea if the order or merit is like oom?

Congrats! I just checked my email tonight by chance. Don’t know how I missed it. So I’m OOM 13 and I’m delighted. I hope this means a job!

EarlyStorms · 21-01-2021 11:16am

Seesee wrote: »

Congrats! I just checked my email tonight by chance. Don’t know how I missed it. So I’m OOM 13 and I’m delighted. I hope this means a job!

Congrats. If you're in Dublin you should be getting placed pretty soon, the fact we're currently in level 5 may slow things a bit but you wont be waiting long.

Abcdefg1234567 · 22-01-2021 1:57pm

Sorry this is probably a silly question but I saw there's discussion about a return to pre- Haddington Road agreement hours. If there is a reduction in hours, does it apply to all employees (i.e. new entrants) or just staff before the hours changed in 2013?

Samuel T. Cogley · 22-01-2021 7:37pm

Abcdefg1234567 wrote: »

Sorry this is probably a silly question but I saw there's discussion about a return to pre- Haddington Road agreement hours. If there is a reduction in hours, does it apply to all employees (i.e. new entrants) or just staff before the hours changed in 2013?

Forsa et al are on it, there's apparently going to be a partial roll back. Reckon it will apply to all.

niallmacsuain · 23-01-2021 2:16am

Has anyone who scored less than 625 in the E-Tray been called to interview yet?

JDWW · 23-01-2021 10:35am

niallmacsuain wrote: »

Has anyone who scored less than 625 in the E-Tray been called to interview yet?

No, 600’s and still waiting. Hopefully now that people have got results from interview we’ll be called soon.

jules86 · 23-01-2021 10:36am

JDWW wrote: »

No, 600’s and still waiting. Hopefully now that people have got results from interview we’ll be called soon.

I wonder will they do etray for some counties next? 🤞

blondie007 · 23-01-2021 12:07pm

jules86 wrote: »

I wonder will they do etray for some counties next? 🤞

I emailed PAS yesterday & was told they'll be inviting a limited number of candidates from other counties in February.

jules86 · 23-01-2021 12:10pm

blondie007 wrote: »

I emailed PAS yesterday & was told they'll be inviting a limited number of candidates from other counties in February.

Brilliant thank you.

Redsettee90 · 23-01-2021 8:40pm

Would it be realistic for 150 to 200 to be called for Limerick?

Allycats36 · 24-01-2021 3:48pm

hi i haven't been called for e tray yet . just wondering if there are any practice tests i can do while waiting?

facade · 24-01-2021 7:27pm

Allycats36 wrote: »

hi i haven't been called for e tray yet . just wondering if there are any practice tests i can do while waiting?

https://www.assessmentday.co.uk/e-tray-exercise.htm

I did this one, I didnt find many other free ones

Allycats36 · 24-01-2021 8:53pm

facade wrote: »

I did this one, I didnt find many other free ones

thank you

Galwayhurl · 25-01-2021 1:37pm

redmgar wrote: »

You wont fail the interview, its just a matter of doing your best to be placed high enough.

Why do you say that Redmgar? Don't they score you on each competency individually? You could theoretically score 100% on 5 of the competencies but then fail the 6th one and therefore fail the interview, no?

connectq · 25-01-2021 1:55pm

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Why do you say that Redmgar? Don't they score you on each competency individually? You could theoretically score 100% on 5 of the competencies but then fail the 6th one and therefore fail the interview, no?

Yes you are correct, if you don’t get the minimum score for each competency you will fail the interview. The higher you get the higher placing you will get. It’s not just a matter of doing the interview.

Seesee · 25-01-2021 2:56pm

connectq wrote: »

Yes you are correct, if you don’t get the minimum score for each competency you will fail the interview. The higher you get the higher placing you will get. It’s not just a matter of doing the interview.

It’s possible to prepar for the competencies though. Be familiar with them. Have an example of how you have demonstrated each one. Prepare STAR answers. Look at behavioural interview questions. If you can get someone to do a mock interview with you so that you’ve really thought things through. Then if something unexpected comes up it will only be one or two questions.

connectq · 25-01-2021 2:57pm

Seesee wrote: »

It’s possible to prepar for the competencies though. Be familiar with them. Have an example of how you have demonstrated each one. Prepare STAR answers. Look at behavioural interview questions. If you can get someone to do a mock interview with you so that you’ve really thought things through. Then if something unexpected comes up it will only be one or two questions.

That’s exactly how you should prepare.

Galwayhurl · 25-01-2021 4:01pm

Are the competencies for the interview the same as those depicted in this wheel graph?

https://www.publicjobs.ie/documents/PAS_CS_Competency_Models_2017.pdf#:~:text=Executive%20Officer%20Level%20Competencies%20Effective%20Performance%20Indicators%20People,and%20addressing%20any%20performance%20issues%20that%20may%20arise

redmgar · 25-01-2021 4:06pm

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Why do you say that Redmgar? Don't they score you on each competency individually? You could theoretically score 100% on 5 of the competencies but then fail the 6th one and therefore fail the interview, no?

I mean, that I had the worst interview ever and I passed.
So if you do any form of prep you will pass.

Technically you can fail, but very unlikely.

Galwayhurl · 25-01-2021 4:30pm

redmgar wrote: »

I mean, that I had the worst interview ever and I passed.
So if you do any form of prep you will pass.

Technically you can fail, but very unlikely.

Did you interview for EO or CO?

ari101 · 25-01-2021 4:39pm

redmgar wrote: »

I mean, that I had the worst interview ever and I passed.
So if you do any form of prep you will pass.

Technically you can fail, but very unlikely.

I know someone who failed a competency and therefore failed overall. Usually a fairly level headed person, very personable, has experience, would be professional in demeanor and definitely make a decent CO, but got flustered had a few bad answers and fell a point or two short of the passing mark. It does happen, some prep is a good idea.

redmgar · 25-01-2021 5:04pm

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Did you interview for EO or CO?

EO

Galwayhurl · 25-01-2021 5:28pm

redmgar wrote: »

EO

Thanks Redmgar.

redmgar · 25-01-2021 5:48pm

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Thanks Redmgar.

Just try and get placed as high as possible to avoid a long wait.

Seesee · 25-01-2021 9:37pm

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Are the competencies for the interview the same as those depicted in this wheel graph?

Yes although there’s a better line item description of each one in this document:
https://www.publicjobs.ie/documents/Executive_Officer_Competencies.pdf

Galwayhurl · 26-01-2021 12:12pm

Seesee wrote: »

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Are the competencies for the interview the same as those depicted in this wheel graph?

Yes although there’s a better line item description of each one in this document:
https://www.publicjobs.ie/documents/Executive_Officer_Competencies.pdf

Thanks Seesee!

Aleece2020 · 26-01-2021 3:04pm

Haven’t been called to e-tray yet either. Inside 500 in Dublin and inside 50 in Louth. Anyone get any word on potential movement? I’m having a hard time believing they won’t call more from Dublin because last time they ran this campaign they got over 3,000 from what I’ve been told.

Syrohara90 · 26-01-2021 6:09pm

Aleece2020 wrote: »

Haven’t been called to e-tray yet either. Inside 500 in Dublin and inside 50 in Louth. Anyone get any word on potential movement? I’m having a hard time believing they won’t call more from Dublin because last time they ran this campaign they got over 3,000 from what I’ve been told.

Theyre still doing interviews from the first batch of people that they called through so maybe a couple of weeks before they call more people forward. I only had mine yesterday.

Syrohara90 · 26-01-2021 6:10pm

JDWW wrote: »

No, 600’s and still waiting. Hopefully now that people have got results from interview we’ll be called soon.

Interviews for first group that got over that score are still being done so be patient

Seesee · 26-01-2021 10:42pm

Can anyone tell me what the next stage is if you’re on the panel and get called? Do you have a medical? Do you have to provide proof of your educational attainment? In the email they talk about a clearance process so I suppose I’m just wondering what that involves. When I checked my application form for example I don’t seem to have had to list referees. TIA

redmgar · 27-01-2021 1:01pm

Seesee wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what the next stage is if you’re on the panel and get called? Do you have a medical? Do you have to provide proof of your educational attainment? In the email they talk about a clearance process so I suppose I’m just wondering what that involves. When I checked my application form for example I don’t seem to have had to list referees. TIA

No Medical, you need Garda clearance. If you are placed in AGS this can take a long time.

You need to provide a copy of your level 7 or above.
And referee checks.

Sooo · 27-01-2021 2:06pm

Thank you for the info. I lived in Asia until earlier this year, would I need clearance from that country also? Or is that just for HSE employees?

Buster97 · 27-01-2021 2:21pm

I just got a date for my interview there, so I’m guessing they’re on to calling the next batch.

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