St. Marnocks Bay - Dun Si

justfortherecor · 09-06-2020 4:31pm

Thanks Whack.

Based on previous articles I'd seen online, it looked as though c. 1,000 houses/dwellings were anticipated for the wider project - any idea if that's still the case (might be referenced in the wider master plan that was mentioned as being in the password protected micro site)?

Based on 100/150/150 dwellings for Phase 1a/1b/1c respectively, there's still c. 500+ houses to be built at the project over the medium term then?

Whack1983 · 09-06-2020 5:38pm

justfortherecor wrote: »

Thanks Whack.

Based on previous articles I'd seen online, it looked as though c. 1,000 houses/dwellings were anticipated for the wider project - any idea if that's still the case (might be referenced in the wider master plan that was mentioned as being in the password protected micro site)?

Based on 100/150/150 dwellings for Phase 1a/1b/1c respectively, there's still c. 500+ houses to be built at the project over the medium term then?

on the planning the have a documnet "Boundary Details" which gives what is in the development framework plan

Phase1A - 101 units built 2017 (I think)
Phase 1B 150 units (phase they are finishing now)
Phase 1C 153 units (phase that they have just received planning permission for)

this leaves 589 units for future development which they have an image of proposed layout in that document

Dunston · 09-06-2020 6:35pm

Thanks Whack.

I understand there is a new phase which they are hoping to launch at the end of this year comprising of mainly 3 beds. It won't be called Dun Si - it'll have a new marketing name but the EA wasn't able to give me anymore info than that.

I'm confused about whether it'll be 1B or 1C as shown in those planning maps. The Dun Si brochure has a future development section marked at the bayside of the existing houses - doesn't seem to tie out with the planning document I've just viewed.

Dunston · 09-06-2020 6:53pm

Whack1983 wrote: »

on the planning the have a documnet "Boundary Details" which gives what is in the development framework plan

Phase1A - 101 units built 2017 (I think)
Phase 1B 150 units (phase they are finishing now)
Phase 1C 153 units (phase that they have just received planning permission for)

this leaves 589 units for future development which they have an image of proposed layout in that document

Just found this Boundary Details doc now. It gives the best view of it. Surprised the future development goes right down to the new cycle path. These units will be right next to the bay. The phase due to launch end of this year must be 1C in the map.

Whack1983 · 09-06-2020 7:34pm

Dunston wrote: »

Just found this Boundary Details doc now. It gives the best view of it. Surprised the future development goes right down to the new cycle path. These units will be right next to the bay. The phase due to launch end of this year must be 1C in the map.

Yes those houses will have a nice view over the cycle track and bay.
The greenway is supposed to be linked directly to the estate at top and bottom.
but at the moment you need to walk out onto station road to get onto it

Johnny86 · 15-06-2020 10:16pm

KS_1602 wrote: »

Hello, i'm in the development. Does anyone know if there is an active residents group on fb or similar?

I applied to join a group called "St Marnock's Bay residents group" on fb a few months ago - no response for me or my partner.

Thanks

Yes, there is a very active WhatsApp Group for St Marnock's Bay and Dun Si and also a newly formed WhatsApp community group for Dun Si

eth · 16-06-2020 11:26am

Johnny86 wrote: »

Yes, there is a very active WhatsApp Group for St Marnock's Bay and Dun Si and also a newly formed WhatsApp community group for Dun Si

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know how we can get added to those WhatsApp groups? I've been searching on the internet and social media for those but couldn't find any.

Thanks!

Tazium · 16-06-2020 11:29am

And me please, took a spin out last weekend to see progress on our build. Block on the Avenue that's nearly done. Some scaffolding still up and progress seems slow. Being cheeky, I'd enjoy getting an update from anyone close by it to let me know how it's going.

Whack1983 · 17-06-2020 10:53am

Johnny86 wrote: »

Yes, there is a very active WhatsApp Group for St Marnock's Bay and Dun Si and also a newly formed WhatsApp community group for Dun Si

Hi, would also be interested in joining this if you could share

Johnny86 · 17-06-2020 4:30pm

No problem - if you can send me a DM i can add.

Whack1983 · 17-06-2020 4:44pm

Johnny86 wrote: »

No problem - if you can send me a DM i can add.

Thanks, just sent DM

ninebeanrows · 17-06-2020 10:19pm

Johnny86 wrote: »

Yes, there is a very active WhatsApp Group for St Marnock's Bay and Dun Si and also a newly formed WhatsApp community group for Dun Si

An active group of curtain twitchers giving out about cars being mis-parked :pac:

YGG · 18-06-2020 11:57am

Johnny86 wrote: »

No problem - if you can send me a DM i can add.

Thanks, just sent DM.

sparkle109 · 24-06-2020 11:09pm

Hi would you mind to pm me the name of the estate agent? Would be very interested in. 3 bed here but haven’t heard any mention of these

Dunston wrote: »

Thanks Whack.

I understand there is a new phase which they are hoping to launch at the end of this year comprising of mainly 3 beds. It won't be called Dun Si - it'll have a new marketing name but the EA wasn't able to give me anymore info than that.

I'm confused about whether it'll be 1B or 1C as shown in those planning maps. The Dun Si brochure has a future development section marked at the bayside of the existing houses - doesn't seem to tie out with the planning document I've just viewed.

Dunston · 28-06-2020 10:44pm

sparkle109 wrote: »

Hi would you mind to pm me the name of the estate agent? Would be very interested in. 3 bed here but haven’t heard any mention of these

EA is Savills. It's section 1C on the map referenced earlier. Looks like a considerably smaller area than the existing 1B section with the same amount of units so this is slightly off-putting. Will wait and see until further info is available

Emcirl · 10-08-2020 8:01pm

Johnny86 wrote: »

No problem - if you can send me a DM i can add.

Any chance you could add me also? Hopefully moving in to the avenue by the end of the month!
cheers

Cramil42 · 17-08-2020 2:18pm

Looks like the next phase is open for expressions of interest, 3 and 4 bed. The signage went up last week, it's called Skylark. Talk of a 3 acre park on the website too. The agents are Savills and Noel Kelly again.

I'd love to be added to the whatsapp groups too please. We moved in to The Crescent about a month ago and we're really enjoying it so far. Have sent a DM @Johnny86.

merikahan · 17-08-2020 3:11pm

We are looking to buy in this estate. the build quality is really good but only concern is the planes flying overhead every couple of minutes.

lcarrol3 · 17-08-2020 4:34pm

Has anyone had any luck with getting rough prices for Skylark from the agent?

Dunston · 17-08-2020 7:00pm

lcarrol3 wrote: »

Has anyone had any luck with getting rough prices for Skylark from the agent?

The developer is undecided about whether to have all of the 3 bed stock eligible for HTB or only a portion of it. They really should be capping the 3 beds at 500k. Would be difficult to shift without HTB as can be seen with the remaining 4 beds in Dun Sí.

lcarrol3 · 17-08-2020 9:33pm

Dunston wrote: »

The developer is undecided about whether to have all of the 3 bed stock eligible for HTB or only a portion of it. They really should be capping the 3 beds at 500k. Would be difficult to shift without HTB as can be seen with the remaining 4 beds in Dun Sí.

Thanks a million for this! We'd need it to be HTB eligible. Hopefully all pulls through!

Melanchthon · 17-08-2020 10:22pm

merikahan wrote: »

We are looking to buy in this estate. the build quality is really good but only concern is the planes flying overhead every couple of minutes.

Anybody looking at places in these flight path areas should be aware you'l get a false impression viewing these days

Sebastian Dangerfield · 18-08-2020 7:40pm

lcarrol3 wrote: »

Has anyone had any luck with getting rough prices for Skylark from the agent?

Not me. Anyone hazard a guess?

BEdS_83 · 22-08-2020 10:33pm

lcarrol3 wrote: »

Has anyone had any luck with getting rough prices for Skylark from the agent?

Facebook ad today:
SKYLARK | Brand new A-rated 3 & 4 bedroom homes in beautiful Portmarnock.
The next phase of the acclaimed St. Marnock’s Bay development, Skylark comprises a mix of stunning A-rated 3 and 4 bedroom homes ideal for all types of purchasers.
Prices from €485,000 - Help To Buy Approved Scheme.
Launching soon. For more information and to register your interest, please visit

I guess the 3 bed will start at 485k, not sure about sizes and floor plan yet, but it will be under the htb cap.

Dunston · 23-08-2020 1:06pm

BEdS_83 wrote: »

Facebook ad today:
SKYLARK | Brand new A-rated 3 & 4 bedroom homes in beautiful Portmarnock.
The next phase of the acclaimed St. Marnock’s Bay development, Skylark comprises a mix of stunning A-rated 3 and 4 bedroom homes ideal for all types of purchasers.
Prices from €485,000 - Help To Buy Approved Scheme.
Launching soon. For more information and to register your interest, please visit

I guess the 3 bed will start at 485k, not sure about sizes and floor plan yet, but it will be under the htb cap.

All the 3 bed stock will be HTB approved so.

eth · 01-09-2020 8:39pm

Today I saw some engineers from ICL laying fibre cables in underground ducts around the estate. AFAIK, they are the crowd rolling out the fibre cables for SIRO.

Just wondering if someone has heard any word on when SIRO will be available in the estate so we can avail of FTTH for decent and reliable internet access?

Pink11 · 02-09-2020 4:42pm

On the hunt for a new build using HTB. Open to all Dublin locations but finding the hunt daunting. Each time I think I find a runner, I find something wrong...

Skylark is top of our list. Had a few chats with the EA about this but they're very light on detail. She had no floor or site plans. Asked about any plans for some to go to social housing and I didn't get a clear answer but believe apartments are due in one of the phases. In terms of pricing I was told today that they start at 485k for a mid terrace 3 bed and the next is 495k for end of terrace. Rest of houses go over 500k making it non applicable for HTB.

If it helps anyone else, the showhouse is due to be ready this month. Is it worth going for a drive to the estate at the weekend for a look around or is it all closed off? Any idea at all when these would actually be move in ready, are we talking next year at this stage?

Would anyone have any heads up or insider knowledge of any other devs coming up in the next 12-18 months that could be worth waiting for?

Whack1983 · 02-09-2020 5:00pm

Pink11 wrote: »

On the hunt for a new build using HTB. Open to all Dublin locations but finding the hunt daunting. Each time I think I find a runner, I find something wrong...

Skylark is top of our list. Had a few chats with the EA about this but they're very light on detail. She had no floor or site plans. Asked about any plans for some to go to social housing and I didn't get a clear answer but believe apartments are due in one of the phases. In terms of pricing I was told today that they start at 485k for a mid terrace 3 bed and the next is 495k for end of terrace. Rest of houses go over 500k making it non applicable for HTB.

If it helps anyone else, the showhouse is due to be ready this month. Is it worth going for a drive to the estate at the weekend for a look around or is it all closed off? Any idea at all when these would actually be move in ready, are we talking next year at this stage?

Would anyone have any heads up or insider knowledge of any other devs coming up in the next 12-18 months that could be worth waiting for?

You can see the new show houses from across the road but you wont be able to get into them.

Need to go around to the end of the road called “The Park”

They are still finishing off the last phase still so i would think it would be next year but dont know for sure

Pink11 · 02-09-2020 6:07pm

Whack1983 wrote: »

You can see the new show houses from across the road but you wont be able to get into them.

Need to go around to the end of the road called “The Park”

They are still finishing off the last phase still so i would think it would be next year but dont know for sure

Thanks a mil, really appreciate it.

Dunston · 02-09-2020 6:25pm

I heard the 3 beds will be priced from 485k to 520k. Was surprised they aren't keeping all the 3 bed stock at 500k or below. No FTB will be looking at the 520k 3bed. They must think there is enough demand from non FTB's, but the 4 beds from Dun Si are still available at 550k.

On the show houses as seen from the end of The Park road, the units look quite small. The 3 units in total are similar in size to the 2 Dun Si units alongside, and the back garden wall looks very close. No plans to go on so hard to tell.

Hulk Hands · 02-09-2020 6:46pm

Dunston wrote: »

I heard the 3 beds will be priced from 485k to 520k. Was surprised they aren't keeping all the 3 bed stock at 500k or below. No FTB will be looking at the 520k 3bed. They must think there is enough demand from non FTB's, but the 4 beds from Dun Si are still available at 550k.

On the show houses as seen from the end of The Park road, the units look quite small. The 3 units in total are similar in size to the 2 Dun Si units alongside, and the back garden wall looks very close. No plans to go on so hard to tell.

Which 4 beds in particular? The Elder ones at 575 I thought were the only ones?

Dunston · 02-09-2020 8:15pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Which 4 beds in particular? The Elder ones at 575 I thought were the only ones?

Apologies you are right - I meant to say 575

jalikhata · 09-09-2020 11:26am

Does anyone worried about new flight path in this development? Can anyone share their knowledge on this? How bad will it be when new flight path will occur? Any ideas?

eth · 09-09-2020 12:24pm

jalikhata wrote: »

Does anyone worried about new flight path in this development? Can anyone share their knowledge on this? How bad will it be when new flight path will occur? Any ideas?

I'm not able to post links in the forum, but if you google "North Runway Report Consultation on Flight Paths" you should be able to find the PDF with the plans for new flight paths in the first result.

From the paths projections available in the document, I feel this will help offload a bit the noise level in Dun Si. It seems that Malahide will have an increase in the noise level.

Also, keep in mind that with the new runway it will create new flights opportunities and increased capacity for take-offs and landings. Therefore, expect the noise levels to remain the same over the years.

BEdS_83 · 09-09-2020 1:11pm

eth wrote: »

I'm not able to post links in the forum, but if you google "North Runway Report Consultation on Flight Paths" you should be able to find the PDF with the plans for new flight paths in the first result.

From the paths projections available in the document, I feel this will help offload a bit the noise level in Dun Si. It seems that Malahide will have an increase in the noise level.

Also, keep in mind that with the new runway it will create new flights opportunities and increased capacity for take-offs and landings. Therefore, expect the noise levels to remain the same over the years.

link -> https://www.dublinairport.com/docs/default-source/north-runway-downloads/public-consultation-report--flight-paths-and-change-to-permitted-operations.pdf?sfvrsn=b06d628_2

Pink11 · 09-09-2020 4:29pm

Is it utter madness paying 500k for a 3 bed terrace house in what could be a noisey area!?

taletodream · 09-09-2020 11:07pm

Just wondering what the experience of residents was pre covid in terms of the flight path? I took a spin out to the estate and found the planes pretty noisy. How often are the flights and did you get used it it?

bobbyy gee · 09-09-2020 11:16pm

taletodream wrote: »

Just wondering what the experience of residents was pre covid in terms of the flight path? I took a spin out to the estate and found the planes pretty noisy. How often are the flights and did you get used it it?

you never get used to it
after covid you will have a flight every minute
i used to date a girl near Heathrow and you could hear the jets all the time
i stayed in hotel in Paris besides the runway
it had 2 Windows triple glazed so 6 sheets glass and you could not hear anything they must have sound proofed the.room as well
if you stay in a dublin airport hotel you can hear a lot but they are badly built i could hear neibours tv

Emcirl · 14-09-2020 1:54pm

Just a word of warning to anyone waiting to complete sales etc on Dun Si.....we were advised and it was on our booking receipt that we were buying X the avenue dun si st marnocks bay portmarnock.......we went to close last week and the bank refused to let solicitor draw down the mortgage as theres no Dun Si on the official property deeds therefore the bank were querying the property........so mortgage had to be amended insurance incl valuation documents changed so its caused a right mess and the close has been put back a week. It shouldve been noticed by someone sooner whether the bank the solicitor or even ourselves. Estate agent couldve given us the heads up when they realised! Just wanted to save someone else the stress!

Dunston · 14-09-2020 10:01pm

https://skylark.ie/floorplans/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Launch&utm_content=EmailWebClick#sidewidgetarea

Anyone had a look at the Skylark Floor/Site Plans? What's the point in the double door entrance of the Petrel?

zootroid · 15-09-2020 6:21am

I just noticed that there are two different sizes given for the shearwater. On the site plan page, the size is 149 square metres, and on the floor plan page, it's 140 square metres

taletodream · 15-09-2020 9:24am

zootroid wrote: »

I just noticed that there are two different sizes given for the shearwater. On the site plan page, the size is 149 square metres, and on the floor plan page, it's 140 square metres

They did the same thing with the Petrel, site plan is 116sqm and floor plan says 114sqm. (Not as big a difference though!)

Insertname121 · 16-09-2020 5:53pm

Interested in skylark but pretty concerned about the flight noise, traffic, and the houses seem to be a fair bit smaller than dun si. Petrel houses don’t have an island in the kitchen or double back doors. Intrigued on what others thoughts are?

If anyone that has moved into dun si is active on the thread could you give an idea how annoying the planes are now that working from home is a thing. Would be keen to spend time in the garden and always have windows open so wondering if it would be too annoying with the flights!

Alicano · 17-09-2020 3:23pm

Insertname121 wrote: »

Interested in skylark but pretty concerned about the flight noise, traffic, and the houses seem to be a fair bit smaller than dun si. Petrel houses don’t have an island in the kitchen or double back doors. Intrigued on what others thoughts are?

If anyone that has moved into dun si is active on the thread could you give an idea how annoying the planes are now that working from home is a thing. Would be keen to spend time in the garden and always have windows open so wondering if it would be too annoying with the flights!

We viewed in Dun Si in June. Walked away over the noise concerns. When you cant get permission for a creche due to noise levels that says enough. In the old world, the June bank holiday weekend would have had close to 3000 aircraft movements. That is a lot of noise. Granted it will now be 2 years or so before we are back a that level. Can't fault the house though. High standard. Very well finished.. lot's of space and light etc. But for 540K, we wanted to be able to sit out back and relax and even be able to take a phone call. It's be a good while before the development is finished. Still a a building site atm. Estate agents had said the marketing suite area would become a cafe and small shop?
I would have traffic concerns for the whole area including Moyne rd developements. Huge build going on. And skinny old county Dublin back roads servicing it all. Houses are really nice. Don't want to sound too negative. We just felt at that price range we shouldn't be having any concerns. Best of luck,

Pink11 · 17-09-2020 4:32pm

Insertname121 wrote: »

Interested in skylark but pretty concerned about the flight noise, traffic, and the houses seem to be a fair bit smaller than dun si. Petrel houses don’t have an island in the kitchen or double back doors. Intrigued on what others thoughts are?

If anyone that has moved into dun si is active on the thread could you give an idea how annoying the planes are now that working from home is a thing. Would be keen to spend time in the garden and always have windows open so wondering if it would be too annoying with the flights!

Was in same boat as you, was so eager to buy and would have done so off plans but have since backed out. Too many drawbacks for us personally but wish anyone buying the absolute best of luck.

chinguetti · 17-09-2020 7:47pm

I've lived in Portmarnock for over 3 years in 2 estates under the flight path and you do get used to the planes and the noises. After a while you don't notice them and only notice when they're not flying or heading into the airport from a different direction. I can understand the noise isn't for all but the new runway I believe is going to change the direction the planes come in from.

Also there's 2 creches already under the flight path across the road so if that's the reason there's isn't a third, its a strange one.

brisan · 17-09-2020 8:31pm

chinguetti wrote: »

I've lived in Portmarnock for over 3 years in 2 estates under the flight path and you do get used to the planes and the noises. After a while you don't notice them and only notice when they're not flying or heading into the airport from a different direction. I can understand the noise isn't for all but the new runway I believe is going to change the direction the planes come in from.

Also there's 2 creches already under the flight path across the road so if that's the reason there's isn't a third, its a strange one.

More than likely less regulation when the first 2 crèches opened

Insertname121 · 18-09-2020 3:27pm

Thanks all for your thoughts on skylark. We’ve decided against it too. While the house & location ticks so many boxes, for us it’s too significant of an investment to not be able to enjoy the garden with the air traffic noise, the roads will be annoying and the fact that it will be a building site for years to come - too many cons. Appreciate all your responses!

taletodream · 18-09-2020 6:02pm

Agreed. It is too much money to be living under a flight path.

House Hunt · 18-09-2020 7:40pm

Not sure what the developer is playing at here. Just today, half the HTB stock removed from availabilty ahead of next week's launch. Leaves around 7 units available under HTB and they are the less desirable units, east facing and overlooked front and back with smaller gardens on the end of terrace units.

Is the demand not as great as we are being told for the finches gate units to be pulled at the last minute ahead of launch?

St. Marnocks Bay - Dun Si

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