WLTP emissions and tax for 201 cars

tintar · 27-02-2020 9:19pm #1

Hi all,

What is the current road tax regime in Ireland for new WLTP cars?

For example, in the links below, page 9 of the new 3008 Peugeot 1.2 130bhp lists an A4 tax band and road tax of Euro 200 for a WLTP CO2 of 146, but when I check that emission value against Gov.ie the tax band is C and the road tax is higher at Euro 390.

Peugeot price list:
https://media.peugeot.ie/file/21/6/peugeot-passenger-cars-retail-price-list.pdf?lcdv16=1PP1000000SY

Gov.ie motor tax rates:
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/41c9cc-motor-tax-rates/#vehicles-registered-after-july-1-2008

If I were to buy this car, would I pay Euro 200 or 390?

Thanks!
/t

Leonard Hofstadter · 28-02-2020 12:26am

The method of testing cars for fuel consumption and emissions has changed from NEDC to WLTP.

This is being done in two phases. The first phase (which we're still supposed to be in) is where the WLTP figures are converted back to NEDC. That's why the motor tax figures are what Peugeot says they are, Peugeot just haven't supplied you with the converted NEDC figure.

Even though they are converted back to NEDC, they are still higher than when the cars were tested solely on the NEDC cycle.

When the second phase comes in (which I think is in the second half of this year), then the full WLTP figures will be used. These are the CO2 figures Peugeot are quoting, and then the car tax will be based on the numbers you suggested.

Of course, nothing has changed at all in terms of the engines etc, they are still going to use as much fuel as they did before, just now the on-paper figures should match the real driving experience!

tintar · 28-02-2020 12:51am

Does that mean I’ll be paying the NEDC rate @ 390 initially, which will lower to the WLTP rate of 200 in the second half of the year? If so, should I tax for just 3 months on the old rate until the new WLTP rate kicks in?

Leonard Hofstadter · 28-02-2020 1:17am

No, the full WLTP figure is higher than the one that is converted back to NEDC (which in turn is higher than when cars were fully tested on the NEDC) so when that comes into effect on new cars their motor tax figures will be higher as a result!

tintar · 28-02-2020 8:48pm

Thanks I think I got it. The WLTP CO2 figure of 146 will result in a Euro 390 tax when WLTP fully comes into effect, but until then the correlated NEDC A4 band and Euro 200 tax will apply. It’s better to get the current annual tax before it doubles! I do hope the government retains the correlated tax bands or WLTP might affect new car sales.

Best,
/t

WLTP emissions and tax for 201 cars

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