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Most costly mistake

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,046 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    IFJ.? I'd say boi shares would be the top of a lot on the list


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    IFJ.? I'd say boi shares would be the top of a lot on the list
    Yes, but they apologised after a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭pajero12


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    IFJ.? I'd say boi shares would be the top of a lot on the list

    A lot of people got bent over with those.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Buying an 804 4wd Marshall tractor. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. The whole tractor was reconditioned by the time it left the place.
    It had a lovely sound and it could climb a mountain but I was glad to see the back of it. I bought it through a dealer and found out after that a contractor had it before me. I bought a ford 7610 after that and it was a brilliant tractor and never let me down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    Missed out on installation aid when-ever it was pulled back in 2007/08, worth 15k I think? Paperwork was in Johnstown castle but not processed when scheme was closed.

    Also should have bought entitlements instead of leasing them for a few years.

    Anyway...... "this time next year we'll be millionaires, Rodney" :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,351 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Buying an 804 4wd Marshall tractor. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. The whole tractor was reconditioned by the time it left the place.
    It had a lovely sound and it could climb a mountain but I was glad to see the back of it. I bought it through a dealer and found out after that a contractor had it before me. I bought a ford 7610 after that and it was a brilliant tractor and never let me down.
    I was liking your story about the Marshall but when it came to the Ford I switched off :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Buying a Manitou loader was my second biggest mistake

    Buying a second one was my biggest mistake

    Pile of shyte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Built two new silage pits last yr, and then switched to all bales this yr, changed the feeder as well last yr. Two mighty fcuk ups, even by my own lowly standards!

    Was close to putting up a new pit here last yr, but thank phuck I got lazy and didn't get around to it. Very very easy to plaster the place in concrete when milk is 39c/l! I'd actually moved away from bales before that, made none at all last yr, bought in about 50 as they were going for reasonable money. But back with bales with a bang this year, and will probably have several 100 next year, and will be down to 2 pits, and moving forward one of them pits which is roofed will probably become a straw bedded shed.

    It's the upside of starting farming when I did I guess ha, any sooner and I could well be looking at a shiny new pit wondering what I I thinking ha. The downside is I fell between the cracks, just missed out on the 15k installation aid, and if I'd held back with the new milking parlour, bulk tank, and even the partnership with my dad until now, I'd stand to gain the 25k tax credits, and would have got a 60% grant instead of only 40%. But swings and roundabouts, I got no regrets which is the main thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Base price wrote: »
    I was liking your story about the Marshall but when it came to the Ford I switched off :)

    Not a fan of Blue power I take it?;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    Damo810 wrote: »
    Now yer talking, looking back the amount of ****e I was told from relatives, teachers etc I am glad I was never one to listen :D Never would I have ended up in the situation I am in where I can't wait to get out working, had I listened I'd be in Dublin studying law or accounting and be pissed off with everything. Find out what ya want to do and go do it, simple as that.
    At least you had the stubbornness not too listen to all they had to say! 🙉


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,351 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Not a fan of Blue power I take it?;)
    Prefer Massey's tbh :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Base price wrote: »
    Prefer Massey's tbh :)

    Good woman yerself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭grange mac


    Has to be draining a bog field...10 acres had big open drain through i, spoke to digger guy and asked how many loads stone it would take...reckoned 4 or 5 told him do proper job and work away....took missus to Dublin for wknd...came back 23 loads stone it took...3 years later back to square1 as stone filled to top and not underneath so pipe sank under the weight.....5k on stone!!! Now just redug section around soft patch and tapped into pipe again...2 loads stone...terram around drain walls and much better job myself & different planthire man!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    grange mac wrote: »
    Has to be draining a bog field...10 acres had big open drain through i, spoke to digger guy and asked how many loads stone it would take...reckoned 4 or 5 told him do proper job and work away....took missus to Dublin for wknd...came back 23 loads stone it took...3 years later back to square1 as stone filled to top and not underneath so pipe sank under the weight.....5k on stone!!! Now just redug section around soft patch and tapped into pipe again...2 loads stone...terram around drain walls and much better job myself & different planthire man!!

    Once all the stone went into your drains and not somewhere else. Some people are great at spotting an opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Once all the stone went into your drains and not somewhere else. Some people are great at spotting an opportunity.

    The truck men have to make a pound somehow !


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Borrowing money and finishing cattle during one of the BSE years would have to be up there in my top 3 anyway, it was either 2000 or 2001. Had to wait about 2 months to get them killed and they all went off in a skip.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    I've made, and continue to make, many mistakes...
    I started as a young lad in the early 70's buying a white calf in July, that never came to anything. Since then the mistakes have been more disastrous....:)



    Still here though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    I'm only farming a few years but plenty feck ups already,
    building a slatted shed in year 1 with no grant available(it was needed but since then I bought a farm and I'll probably have to build another 1)

    2 PB LM heifers, they were quiet but 1 produced only 1 heifer calf and was culled and the 2nd one ain't producing anything better than my own cows

    missing out on the Installation aid like plenty more

    biggest learning and cost has been when to sell cattle, my dad would give them away to any bidder, and we used to sell them too light. Costs too much carrying a cow to be selling cheap weanlings


  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭RD10


    Accountant made a huge f*** up with my accounts a few years back. Long story short after searching down every avenue i could to try to rectify the situation I had to pay for the mistake HE made on my accounts and pay out €25,000. He knew he was at fault and said 'i don't know what to say to u im sorry' needless to say i havn't seen or dealt with him since. Right before christmas and all. Such torment i went through. Indemnity insurance my arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,833 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    RD10 wrote: »
    Accountant made a huge f*** up with my accounts a few years back. Long story short after searching down every avenue i could to try to rectify the situation I had to pay for the mistake HE made on my accounts and pay out €25,000. He knew he was at fault and said 'i don't know what to say to u im sorry' needless to say i havn't seen or dealt with him since. Right before christmas and all. Such torment i went through. Indemnity insurance my arse.
    my accountant made a mistake and put my tax through twice, so the money came out twice, he came out with crap like if i could afford to give you the money I would....... Last time I dealt with him as a previous error resulted in a revenue audit


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭stretch film


    RD10 wrote: »
    Accountant made a huge f*** up with my accounts a few years back. Long story short after searching down every avenue i could to try to rectify the situation I had to pay for the mistake HE made on my accounts and pay out €25,000. He knew he was at fault and said 'i don't know what to say to u im sorry' needless to say i havn't seen or dealt with him since. Right before christmas and all. Such torment i went through. Indemnity insurance my arse.

    The bigger my accountant s business becomes the more he delegates to his trainees etc.
    Have picked him up on something 2 years in a row now. Will have a sit down now that the dust has settled post tax returns .

    It knocks your confidence in the service your getting when you can pick up something glaringly obvious, what are you missing that you don't understand.

    I presume its the same declaration you sign to assume all responsibility for the figures regarding tax return that gives the accountant a get out of jail card for any f@#$ ups in arriving at the those figures.

    Keeping in with this lad might be he biggest mistake I'll make


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    whelan2 wrote: »
    my accountant made a mistake and put my tax through twice, so the money came out twice, he came out with crap like if i could afford to give you the money I would....... Last time I dealt with him as a previous error resulted in a revenue audit

    Do you not have any comeback in that situation Whelan?

    Is there some kinda accountant society that you can take that to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,833 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Do you not have any comeback in that situation Whelan?

    Is there some kinda accountant society that you can take that to?
    Was a few years ago now, I was very annoyed at the time, have just calmed down now. My dad still deals with him and he still finds things he does wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    whelan2 wrote: »
    my accountant made a mistake and put my tax through twice, so the money came out twice, he came out with crap like if i could afford to give you the money I would....... Last time I dealt with him as a previous error resulted in a revenue audit

    Did you not get refund from a Revenue?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Lakill might help ye out


  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭RD10


    Its a Very stressful, frightening and worrying situation to be in. In the end i just wanted to get it paid and out of the way, i was afraid revenue might find something else and i'd have to fork out thousands more. And believe me it was a struggle to come up with that amount of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭tanko


    Just saw a lad from Thailand miss the last black off it's spot to make a 147 break in the UK snooker championship.
    It cost him £44,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,833 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Did you not get refund from a Revenue?

    I did. Took about 7-10 days but had loan repayments etc to come out in the mean time. Whole situation was totally avoidable. Was very lucky in that milk cheque came in when the double money came out, so it just about covered the tax


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Did you pay your accountant that year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Mehaffey1


    Would've been filling the tractor full of diesel straight into the coolant tank if I hadn't of realised something wasn't quite right when I turned the key with the fuel needle not moving and the smoke.

    To be fair, thought it was a ridiculously small fuel tank in the first place. Stupid is as stupid does Forrest Gump said.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,833 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Did you pay your accountant that year?
    insurance paid the audit fees less vat. I didnt pay the full bill for that year.Got a fair discount as other members of the firm had been doing work on farm transfer etc.Otherwise I would have paid nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    Property and shares, selling 2000 kerry group shares in 2006 for 40000 to buy a house for 250000 today tthe house is valued at 150000 and the shares if I had them would be worth 160000 so ye can do the maths on that one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    kerryjack wrote: »
    Property and shares, selling 2000 kerry group shares in 2006 for 40000 to buy a house for 250000 today tthe house is valued at 150000 and the shares if I had them would be worth 160000 so ye can do the maths on that one
    Sold most of the Kerry plc shares at €15 back in 09 for farm buildings,realise now that was a extremely costly mistake as they are €75 now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,911 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Heard of a guy that sold some land for development. Got about a million euro. On the advice of the bank, converting it all into bank shares. Shares nose dived. Then the revenue came after him for capital gains on the sale of the land. He had to borrow to pay them. Ouch!!!!

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    kerryjack wrote: »
    Property and shares, selling 2000 kerry group shares in 2006 for 40000 to buy a house for 250000 today tthe house is valued at 150000 and the shares if I had them would be worth 160000 so ye can do the maths on that one

    I wouldn't say you were the only one, at least the kerry shares were worth something, I can't ever imagine arrabawn shares making €75 a pop.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭naughto


    I said wrote: »
    Lakill might help ye out

    It's lakill that she's complaining about........

    No offence to lakill ment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,833 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    naughto wrote: »
    It's lakill that she's complaining about........

    No offence to lakill ment
    No its not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Heard of a guy that sold some land for development. Got about a million euro. On the advice of the bank, converting it all into bank shares. Shares nose dived. Then the revenue came after him for capital gains on the sale of the land. He had to borrow to pay them. Ouch!!!!

    On the flip side to that. Local farmer sold field on the edge of our town for 3.6m in 06 and bought it back for 550k in 2011!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,833 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    On the flip side to that. Local farmer sold field on the edge of our town for 3.6m in 06 and bought it back for 550k in 2011!!
    How would that work out tax wise?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    How would that work out tax wise?

    Don't know but he'd still be on right side of filthy rich


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 770 ✭✭✭viztopia


    whelan2 wrote: »
    How would that work out tax wise?

    Would have paid tax on the original gain but am sure he still did OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    viztopia wrote: »
    Would have paid tax on the original gain but am sure he still did OK.

    Bought 30acres and put up 2 sheds for a start


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    whelan2 wrote: »
    How would that work out tax wise?

    If he paid his tax and put the rest in his pocket it would still have been ok . There were alot that bought bank shares and development sites straight away to cut down on tax and have very little left today .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,911 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    On the flip side to that. Local farmer sold field on the edge of our town for 3.6m in 06 and bought it back for 550k in 2011!!
    And I bet he never stopped crazing it either. :D

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    And I bet he never stopped crazing it either. :D

    Fact! Good farmer and it never missed a round of 27% either! Like he was minding it for himself again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭bcklschaps


    Rented a bit of land to a lad on a rolling year to year agreement (I had been kind of cryptically warned about him ie. that he was a bit of a chancer).

    He paid the first year upfront and it was a pretty good price so I was more than happy.. But he didn't pay the 2nd or 3rd years (dodging me and giving me various excuses etc. family member deceased, his health was bad, that he had to go abroad to work for while etc. etc. ) and I basically had to get the authorities involved to get him out eventually.

    Cost me two years rental money and the place was wrecked after him, walls knocked, various rubbish dumped around the place. So it needed a good week of work to sort it out. So maybe all 3 years of rental money lost really.

    Lesson learnt ... know who you are renting land to and keep it short term and get the money upfront.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,911 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    There was a guy renting land beside us. Turned out he was an 'enforcer' for one of the criminal families in the well known Limerick feud. He became notorious afterwards. Still alive despite a number of attempts on his life.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭MF290


    I've been lucky enough so far (touch wood..) Closest I've come to major damage was a few years ago deciding I was going to "lock" the lift arms on a deutz while the agitator was in the tank. I saw the padlock icon, flicked the button and the agitator shot up. Luckily enough it didn't go up fully and we had a tiny toplink on, which is now bent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,016 ✭✭✭einn32


    Mehaffey1 wrote: »
    Would've been filling the tractor full of diesel straight into the coolant tank if I hadn't of realised something wasn't quite right when I turned the key with the fuel needle not moving and the smoke.

    To be fair, thought it was a ridiculously small fuel tank in the first place. Stupid is as stupid does Forrest Gump said.

    Boss done it here except it was fuel into the hydraulic system! Hangover was bad supposedly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    blue5000 wrote: »
    I wouldn't say you were the only one, at least the kerry shares were worth something, I can't ever imagine arrabawn shares making €75 a pop.

    A serious lesson learmed that I am no warren buffett or a property developer either but it ended quite alright the supposed property investment turned out to be a nice family home and I still have a few kerry shares left all financial advise at the time don't have all eggs in one basket I think its best to stick with what you are good at


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