Heuston Station

Vic_08 · 29-06-2023 3:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120780199#Comment_120780199

No. There is no capacity to run more trains to/through Connolly and if there was priority would be given to extra commuter services.

Disco24 · 29-06-2023 6:36pm

That makes sense. Would that include capacity for a cork train terminating at platform 1/2/3/4 in Connolly? Realise it would need to cross commuter lines.

Good argument for dart underground tunnel that would take Northern darts away from connolly. But that project seems far away.

LXFlyer · 29-06-2023 7:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120783848#Comment_120783848

The Cork train needs to be cleaned and serviced in the time it spends at Heuston.

Once you start adding extra journey time you risk needing extra trains to deliver the same frequency, as you also need recovery time in the event of delays.

LXFlyer · 29-06-2023 7:20pm

Also there is a bus every 15 minutes for most of the day from Heuston directly to the Airport via the North Quays and Port Tunnel as it is!

Surely that’s enough to cope with the Cork train demand?

Disco24 · 29-06-2023 11:12pm

Part of my original thinking was a Belfast to Cork train route. Know its direction change at connolly but still think good idea.

I do think if you're looking to get more people away from cars the more options the better within reason. Obviously an all stations from Bray to Cork wouldn't work but Connolly evening service would pick up sizable numbers.

Pete_Cavan · 30-06-2023 6:08am

Why do people think that there is demand for a Cork - Belfast train service? I would say the number of people looking to travel between them is negligible. If the journey was theoretically possible (therefore both trains serving a common Dublin station), what would the benefits be over the small number of passengers looking to continue their journey simply changing trains?

Disco24 · 01-07-2023 9:58am

Guarantee there's people travelling between 2 of the 3 biggest cities on the island, work, colleges, leisure. Not to mention the towns it serves in between, Newry, Dundalk, Drogheda, Portlaoise, Thurles etc. All opens up opportunity for people to travel to college. Current process is a train- luas- train or buses x2 with timetable difference.

LXFlyer · 01-07-2023 10:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120790625#Comment_120790625

And those people are incapable of using the tram?

How do people cope in London for example where they have to use the underground to transfer between mainline stations?

It’s pretty normal to make connections like that.

Disco24 · 01-07-2023 11:22pm

You're trying to make the shift from car to public transport as attractive as possible with the least amount of transfers, Train- Tram - Train is going to be hard to compete with car jouney. If its possible without impacting other services it's worth considering IMO. Its a model that's used in Europe eg Munich to Berlin onto Hamburg.

Disco24 · 22-07-2023 2:10pm

Seen the European model of inter City trains stopping at a station outside of final stop city to allow transfers.

Would Adamstown work as a stop for Cork/ Waterford/ Galway trains to allow ppl transfer to Dart SW route and onwards to Drumcondra/ Connolly?

brianc89 · 22-07-2023 2:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120882881#Comment_120882881

Clondalkin Foothill would be more likely, I would wager. The plans for Metro West included a stop at Foothill (Cork line) and Porterstown (Sligo line).

I fully expect Metro West will pop it's head up again within 5years. The success of orbital routes in Bus Connects (N4, W4 "still to be determined", etc.) will likely drive demand for orbital tram / metro lines. Tallaght and Blanch are two huge population centres...

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Disco24 · 22-07-2023 6:59pm

Yes that would be a game changer and perfect hub. Access to West and North Dublin incld big one of airport whilst avoiding city centre.

cgcsb · 23-07-2023 7:01pm

Even if we could have a bus and ped bridge somewhere west of the M50. Lots of people would love to be able to go from clondalkin to blanch without having to get in a car and drive across the m50. You'd be faster walking anyway and the option just doesn't exist

Pete_Cavan · 23-07-2023 8:14pm

Yeah, Metro West is dead and isn't coming back, at least not for several decades. Most of the benefits from it can be achieved by buses at a fraction of the cost. You could also have diverse routes passing over the bridge with buses (e.g. inbound buses along the N4 turning north and heading across the bridge to serve the Blanchardstown/Ballcoolin area).

A public/active transport bridge west of the Liffey along with some targeted road upgrades would do the job. Articulated buses to speed up boarding/alighting and off-board ticketing and you'd have an excellent service.

brianc89 · 23-07-2023 10:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120888015#Comment_120888015

I wouldn't rule out Metro West making a comeback sooner. It passes through some of the largest towns in Ireland and would cross multiple high capacity lines - Red Luas, Dart SW, Lucan Luas(?), Dart West, Finglas Luas(?) and Metro North.

The route was mostly through green fields and above ground, making it significantly cheaper than underground Metro lines directly into the city.

All pie in the sky for now anyways.

bobbyss · 21-08-2023 9:54am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057977377/heuston-station

Recently new toilets have been put in and they are quite clean and well maintained and policed. I was in a restaurant thee (I forget the name but it was the one on the left as you enter from the Luas side). I was disappointed with the number of bloody pigeons in there. They even have a kind of lowered entrance to minimize their flight yet that's not a bother to them. One darted by my head like a plane as I entered.

p_haugh · 21-08-2023 10:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121006011#Comment_121006011

If only they gave the toilets in Connolly the same treatment!

looksee · 21-08-2023 11:55am

Wouldn't you think something like a bead/chain curtain would keep the pigeons out? I suppose it might be considered a choking risk for children, but even one half way down would help.

lordleitrim · 28-08-2023 12:40am

Pret A Manger have opened in Heuston now next to Brambles. With Insomnia, Butlers, the also recently opened Caffè Nero and the various other places there that offer coffee, there's quite the competition for caffeine on offer!

Polar101 · 14-09-2023 5:55pm

I needed to buy a new Leap card - but buying one at Heuston station wasn't too easy.

Ticket maschine 1 - "Buy leap card" - nothing happened when I clicked on that

Ticket maschine 2 - "Buy leap card" - nothing happened when I clicked on that

Ticket maschine 3 - "Buy leap card" - add travel credit -> pay-> "Unable to dispense your smartcard. You have NOT been charged for this transaction"

Ticket maschine 4 - "Buy leap card" - add travel credit -> pay-> "Unable to dispense your smartcard. You have NOT been charged for this transaction"

Ticket maschine 5 - "Buy leap card" - add travel credit -> pay-> "Unable to dispense your smartcard. You have NOT been charged for this transaction"

After this I finally got the idea, and gave up. There's a news agent, but the queue was very long and they might have just told me "sure you can buy one at the ticket maschines".

Feels like they should restock the ticket maschines every now and then.

mikeybhoy · 17-09-2023 12:21am

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lord lucan · 17-09-2023 10:07am

M&S are gone a few years now,Fresh occupy that unit now.

icdg · 17-09-2023 11:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121110081#Comment_121110081

I got one fairly easily from a TVM at a suburban station a few weeks back with no issues, I have to say. Getting one in a shop proved a bit more tricky as it seems to be only Postpoint agents that do them now and my local one said they didn’t do them oddly.

p_haugh · 17-09-2023 1:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121121368#Comment_121121368

My sister who was over visiting from the UK was unable to get one from either Booterstown or Dun Laoghaire station when they tried the other month, all the TVMs in both had no leap cards remaining!

Also interestingly enough, as of a couple weeks ago at least, Donnybrook Fair in Stillorgan still sell leap cards even though they aren't a PostPoint location (at least they didn't have any PostPoint signage, and don't show on the online locator).

mikeybhoy · 18-09-2023 6:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121121680#Comment_121121680

I think a lot the shops are not full post point outlets but just offer leap cards

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