New Ireland Weather Network. Weather Stations Wanted

Danno · 30-08-2008 3:19pm

Looks good lads. My station seems to have no gust to report, is it missing from my data or was there simply "no gust" to report over the last 5 mins???

Supercell · 30-08-2008 3:20pm

I strongly feel we should use the current units our own Met Office uses.
If you like mph why not have Fahrenheit up there too and rain measurements and pressure in inches too?, and this new fangled euro..lets go back to the Punt....
Times move on and people need to adjust (sorry, didn't mean to come across as lecturing here!..people need to adjust I mean in general to the changes)
Its your site , so your decision at the end of the day I suppose.
The new test map looks great (wind speed aside!)

Danno · 30-08-2008 3:27pm

Km/ph is easily converted to m/ph on the fly, divide by 10 and multiply by 6. i.e. 50km/ph = 50/10 = 5, then 5*6 = 30mph.

I feel we should use what our met uses.

Deep Easterly · 30-08-2008 3:28pm

Supercell wrote: »

I strongly feel we should use the current units our own Met Office uses.
If you like mph why not have Fahrenheit up there too and rain measurements and pressure in inches too?, and this new fangled euro..lets go back to the Punt....
Times move on and people need to adjust.

:eek: :pac:

Supercell · 30-08-2008 3:33pm

Danno wrote: »

Looks good lads. My station seems to have no gust to report, is it missing from my data or was there simply "no gust" to report over the last 5 mins???

I think you need your Weatherlink software to be running in "bulletin" mode for the gust to be sent :-

Snowbie · 30-08-2008 3:42pm

Supercell wrote: »

I strongly feel we should use the current units our own Met Office uses.
If you like mph why not have Fahrenheit up there too and rain measurements and pressure in inches too?, and this new fangled euro..lets go back to the Punt....
Times move on and people need to adjust.

Point taken

Its your site , so your decision at the end of the day I suppose.

I would not put it like that. I aim to have this site as best i can for not one individual but for all of us.:)

We are a week old today and i think we have altered the map somewhat to our likin. What will it be like in a month? As i said already, i will put this to Ken and see what we can come up with.:)

Danno · 30-08-2008 3:45pm

Got that running there now, hopefully some results on the site soon.

Snowbie · 30-08-2008 3:52pm

Dan whats your interval upload time?

It's gusting now on the site
Also refreshing the test site in your browser will keep the time of stats updated. Most stations are generating reports every minute.

gordonre · 30-08-2008 3:57pm

Juat in case you are wandering why there is no gust info from my site, I have stopped the bulletin on WL to try and establish where the problems are coming from with the USB type issues I have been experiencing.

Davis tell me my console may be faulty so I may have to send this in for repair or exchange.

Anyway my site is still up and running and the 5-min updates to IRLWN (http://homepage.eircom.net/~osprey/irish_mesomap.html) is still going well as of late last night. WL would freeze each time it tried to down load from the console.

Once I'm happy with the download reliability I will turn the bulletin on and see what gives there.

Apologies for the inconvenience and missing gust data guys!

Edit: FYI: I have added the link above as I don't yet have 25 posts on boards.ie so I have my signature and other basic goodies witheld until then. Well there's three more to go.

Danno · 30-08-2008 4:12pm

Snowbie wrote: »

Dan whats your interval upload time?

It's gusting now on the site
Also refreshing the test site in your browser will keep the time of stats updated. Most stations are generating reports every minute.

I have it at 5 minutes since I rejigged my http://durrow.athost.net/weather page as I cut the graphics upload.

30-08-2008 4:58pm

Danno wrote: »

Just a few things to note here for PWS owners.
Athlone - Humidity being reported at 35% whilst nearby Birr reports 88%. Again, way out. Pressure here is also reporting 3mb lower than Birr. Your temperatures seem to be a tad high also.

I'm sure too that my own data is not the 100% either. I have a sneaking suspicion that my pressure reading is slightly high by 0.2 or 0.3mb. I will be keeping a close eye on Birr and Carlow reports for comparison.

My hygrometer fell over earlier in the year and "recallibrated itself" to the humidity of wet grass

, I have more important things to buy before replacing it - with a bit of luck a couple of foggy days will make it reset and give more realistic readings.

Just recalibrated the pressure so should be OK there, as for the temperature I live in a sheltered spot that seems to hold the heat, I have used two thermometers and get the same figures.

Mothman · 30-08-2008 8:01pm

Snowbie wrote: »

We are a week old today and i think we have altered the map somewhat to our likin. What will it be like in a month?

Radar with lightning, Satellite overlays :pac:

Danno · 30-08-2008 8:19pm

Mothman wrote: »

Radar with lightning, Satellite overlays :pac:

And snow depths, freezing lines, etc...

Snowbie · 30-08-2008 8:59pm

Mothman wrote: »

Radar with lightning, Satellite overlays :pac:

I like it, seriously that would be brilliant. I know this is generally used in the US of A with a program called NEXRAD and GR3, but not here:(.

Sure on Google maps you can get a radar overlay but satellite in real time be difficult or even 15 minute updates would suit.:cool:

Snowbie · 30-08-2008 11:08pm

The mesomap is now updated to show the changes.

I'm going to get the ball rolling in asking for some sort of tab that a user can select to change the units of measurement.

Obviously wind speed showing the units in either m/s, k/ph or kts both for the map and the table.

I'm sure we can all agree that Celcius for temperature can be left the way it is and pressure in mb/hpa and no need to change anything there?

Your thoughts please

LEIN · 31-08-2008 12:17am

Keep up the good work lads.

Cant wait to see this site when its running on full steam.

Snowbie · 31-08-2008 12:32am

Supercell wrote: »

Quin weather station claims to have a Webcam, but it doesn't (or its not linked to on the main site) , I feel cheated! I was curious to see what conditions are like there given the realtively warm temp reported and low humidity.

Snowbie wrote: »

His application, he mentioned he has a webcam and the message he left was that he only recently updated his site and including new features , so maybe he will include it over time?

He has his webcam up and running now:)

http://www.quinweather.com/

Mothman · 31-08-2008 2:36pm

It shows up well how I've still got relatively moist air, the Dp is ~3C lower at all the other station at 2.30pm.

Snowbie · 03-09-2008 1:55am

New site added to mesomap. Howth Co.Dublin. Now 12 stations. Update you php to include the new site.

pauln · 03-09-2008 9:07am

I wont be able to keep weatherlink running in bulletin mode on my server therefore the Kilgobnet site wont have gust information anymore.
Two reasons:
1.) I have an intermittent problem with weatherlink crashing. I have a watchdog setup to restart it when it does happen but I haven't found a way to start it in bulletin mode automatically.
2.) Only one copy of weatherlink software can access a stations bulletin data stream at any one time or it causes communications errors.

Snowbie · 03-09-2008 9:25am

pauln wrote: »

I wont be able to keep weatherlink running in bulletin mode on my server therefore the Kilgobnet site wont have gust information anymore.
Two reasons:
1.) I have an intermittent problem with weatherlink crashing. I have a watchdog setup to restart it when it does happen but I haven't found a way to start it in bulletin mode automatically.
2.) Only one copy of weatherlink software can access a stations bulletin data stream at any one time or it causes communications errors.

Have you downloaded the USB drivers. WL was known to crash and lock up with USB. There is a link on the IRLWN forum for the drivers.

pauln · 03-09-2008 9:42am

Snowbie wrote: »

Have you downloaded the USB drivers. WL was known to crash and lock up with USB. There is a link on the IRLWN forum for the drivers.

It's a weatherlink IP data logger so no USB used, all transferred over TCP/IP via CAT-Ve LAN. I've updated all firmware's & software to the latest versions so there's not much else I can think to do.
It's not a huge problem averaging maybe one crash a week but when I only log into the server via VNC every now and then to see that it's still running it can go unnoticed for quite a while.

Snowbie · 05-09-2008 2:14am

Paul, Ken is looking for a possible solution to your problem and will let me know.

For the WeatherLinkIP -> weatherlink issue, I think it's ok to run
without Gust info. There is a small plugin for WeatherLink that opens a
Bulletin window when WL starts up. I'll rummage around for it (have it
running on my WL5.7.1 system for quite a while).

I think we can bring our ideas and problems (if any) for the network over to the IRLWN forum now. Ken can answer questions about the network much quicker than i can as he has vast experience in all the networks globally.

He also needs feedback on the new implemented changes and how they are working out? Paul above for example has trouble with the WL IP which Ken hopefully can find a solution to this problem.
Things like this can be answered much quicker and be beneficial to you if you post there.
Gordon has also had trouble with data from the VP2 another example.

Anyone can join the forum over Here (weather station, website or not) and ask whatever you wish concerning the IRLWN.

Thanks:)

pauln · 05-09-2008 9:03am

Snowbie wrote: »

Paul, Ken is looking for a possible solution to your problem and will let me know.

I think we can bring our ideas and problems (if any) for the network over to the IRLWN forum now. Ken can answer questions about the network much quicker than i can as he has vast experience in all the networks globally.

He also needs feedback on the new implemented changes and how they are working out? Paul above for example has trouble with the WL IP which Ken hopefully can find a solution to this problem.
Things like this can be answered much quicker and be beneficial to you if you post there.
Gordon has also had trouble with data from the VP2 another example.

Anyone can join the forum over Here (weather station, website or not) and ask whatever you wish concerning the IRLWN.

Thanks:)

That's no problem except that when I looked there doesn't really appear to be forum on the board over there for discussions about problems uploading to the network. There's the thread in the announcements section but we can't keep putting everything in there and this isn't really news. Then there's the personal weather website's section but this is a specific problem relating to uploading to the network not a personal site.
Would it be possible to make another forum over there like Uploads troubleshooting or something similar?

Snowbie · 05-09-2008 9:19am

Hi Paul, use the IRLWN/Networks update section and the IrelandsWeather.com threrad in the members area for the moment. You will have to register to see this part of the forum if not already.

Snowbie · 14-09-2008 12:52pm

New stations added to the mesomap. Now 15 in total.
2 more included in NI and Palmerstown in Dublin.
1 of the stations(Dromore) in NI has sent me his wrong URL with the vws_stickertags.htm and is not updating. Several attempts to contact him with no response over the last week but i will leave it up for the time being incase he gets back to me.

Anyone that has the map graphic installed on their website should update to keep it current.

Supercell · 14-09-2008 6:11pm

Great to see so many stations up there Snowbie, we sure have good coverage on the east coast!
Connaught and Munster under-represented so far, really hope we can get stations in the far west and southwest as most of our weather afterall passes over there first.
Great success in such a sort time though.

Danno · 14-09-2008 7:46pm

I presume the lack of stations there are caused by the lack of Population and lack of Broadband access.

kerry1960 · 22-09-2008 1:36pm

Supercell wrote: »

Great to see so many stations up there Snowbie, we sure have good coverage on the east coast!
Connaught and Munster under-represented so far, really hope we can get stations in the far west and southwest as most of our weather afterall passes over there first.
Great success in such a sort time though.

Will have a carefull look at setting up a station in my location early 2009, i'm not an I.T. person and it might be beyond my capabilities so we'll see ,in the meantime well done to all those involved,

Supercell · 22-09-2008 4:40pm

Hope you get it set up Kerry1960, I'm certain you'll find plenty of advice here should you need it. A site in kerry would be fantastic to have on the Ireland Weather network

kerry1960 · 22-09-2008 5:49pm

Supercell wrote: »

Hope you get it set up Kerry1960, I'm certain you'll find plenty of advice here should you need it. A site in kerry would be fantastic to have on the Ireland Weather network

Yes , there is a big gap down here atm , so (and it's not an idle promise) i will try certainly try to 'fill the gap' in the not too distant future (have some smarter offspring than me), in the meantime can't see what use this information(ie 300 days of drizzle:rolleyes:)will be to anyone

......

Danno · 22-09-2008 6:05pm

While the dollar is still weak it is a good time to be getting the equipment. It will be interesting to see your recordings as you are situated on higher ground.

Snowbie · 17-10-2008 5:10pm

New station added to mesomap Glanworth Co. Cork.

The owner of this site use's Cumulus software and we have been sending mails back and forth lately.
He has set-up cumulus to update the data in the file format that matches weather link.

Another 2 possible sites also in Sligo and Dundalk hopefully soon.
More NI, plus Kerry, Galway and Mayo needed, aswell as more inland stations.

Deep Easterly · 19-10-2008 1:42am

Snowbie wrote: »

Galway & Mayo needed

Map filling up nicely Snowbie, and as soon as I can...(u know the story):o

Snowbie · 19-10-2008 2:37am

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Map filling up nicely Snowbie, and as soon as I can...(u know the story):o

Snowbie · 19-10-2008 10:30am

Hopefully a new look to the network coming soon.

The admin of the Nordic network is releasing his scripts soon but needs to fine tune a few things first. The mouse over data showing webcams and data is a neat feature that i and a few others on our network are interested in aswell as max/min and avg of data.

http://www.nordicweather.net/index.php?sivu=100&lang=en

Also, whats of concern is some stations on top of each other on the map, the map is sized as best it can to fit the land of the island in on the page keeping within pixel width/height as i knew where stations would be located at first. So not to clutter the map and position each stations data with pointer lines over the Irish sea (east stations) i have left the station dots where they are atm as it is just within limits of legibility.

But then this chap has released a script (not publically) where the countries of the Nordic network is broken up individually into seperate pages, this is what i could do for Ireland for some counties with Co. Wicklow and Co. Dublin in mind.

More on this later.

Danno · 19-10-2008 11:42am

The idea of the lines from the stations to the Irish Sea would be a much better idea than breaking up the map IMHO.

Snowbie · 19-10-2008 12:06pm

I have considered the pointer lines to the sea but not needed yet as not many stations as yet in one area to change. I also think the station dot is better displaying the location of the station rather than a line but thats my opinion and i'm open to suggestions but it does take up a portion of an area on the map.

Regarding a new style mesomap of Ireland, this would still be visible just like now but with additional stations in Wicklow and Dublin will clutter somewhat (if and when more stations are added), not saying in any way a certain quota for a county, the more the merrier. For ease of reading data, seperate tabs say at the top with links to a map of the counties with the majority of stations located in, i think would be good.

When arctictree or nemonoid go live, the data will be hard to read and the pointer lines to the Irish sea will be needed for the island map.
This seperate link to a county map such as Wicklow and Dublin will benefit as Wicklow will have 5 stations and Dublin 4 but with the size of Dublin compared to Wicklow, Dublin will be just as cluttered.

This is early days and it won't happen tomorrow, so all suggestions welcome as to what features you would like to see and getting extra ideas from the link to the Nordic site above as he has the scripts which eventually will forward to Ken and then onto me.

Supercell · 19-10-2008 9:34pm

Exciting stuff, the Nordic popups are pretty cool I think, looking forward to seeing that implemented.

Snowbie · 19-10-2008 10:10pm

Have had a good few mails from the Nordic admin and he is still fine tuning the scripts for the site at the moment and he said he will .zip them to me when he is finished tweaking them. He went into detail whats involved so i be patient.

Lovely jubbly

Mothman · 19-10-2008 11:35pm

Snowbie wrote: »

Have had a good few mails from the Nordic admin and he is still fine tuning the scripts for the site at the moment and he said he will .zip them to me when he is finished tweaking them. He went into detail whats involved so i be patient.

Lovely jubbly

Keep up the good work!

OT
I see Africa is represented with a network in Namibia, one of my favourite countries in Africa.

Snowbie · 20-10-2008 12:49am

Yes MM, Jens contacted me through the IRLWN and i pointed him in Kens direction. So he has been busy there last couple of weeks setting up that site.

Was looking at data earlier and one inland station had a air temp of 34C with Dp of -6.2C. Hot surface but dry clear cold air at height. Interesting stuff.

Mothman · 20-10-2008 3:14pm

Snowbie wrote: »

When arctictree or nemonoid go live, the data will be hard to read and the pointer lines to the Irish sea will be needed for the island map.
This seperate link to a county map such as Wicklow and Dublin will benefit as Wicklow will have 5 stations and Dublin 4 but with the size of Dublin compared to Wicklow, Dublin will be just as cluttered.

REgional map rather than county would suffice for some time to come.
The region could include Dublin, Wicklow, Kildare and other nearby stations that may join. Shouldn't be need to go to county level.

Snowbie · 20-10-2008 3:29pm

Mothman wrote: »

REgional map rather than county would suffice for some time to come.
The region could include Dublin, Wicklow, Kildare and other nearby stations that may join. Shouldn't be need to go to county level.

Maybe by province then:)
Something like a full size map of Leinster, Munster, Conaught and Ulster.

Mothman · 20-10-2008 4:21pm

Snowbie wrote: »

Maybe by province then:)

I didn't want to stir any provincial bias....

I was thinking Leinster being quite long (north to south) that one wouldn't gain much space, but would probably be enough to fit any extra stations in.
Anyway, not as if we really have to cross this bridge now, plenty of other water to go under before.

Snowbie · 20-10-2008 4:40pm

Aye need the stations first.
I could always do it out first to see how it looks and scale down or trim back if required when the time comes.

Also the station that i added the other day knows of a second one to come online also in Co. Cork soon.

20-10-2008 4:49pm

The simplist thing would be just have zoom fields on the areas that are getting congested, most of the country will only ever need the national map.

Snowbie · 21-10-2008 1:34am

I have those files now and have had a look and them so i quickly mailed Ken for his attention. There is so much in there so i be working with him over the next week and will keep you all informed. Look at the site and pick out the things you like about it and let me know, i already sent a list of requests on so far.

http://www.nordicweather.net/index.php?sivu=100&lang=en

Mothman · 22-10-2008 8:01pm

Along with pop ups, the max and min temp will be a great addition. I don't have strong desire for any of the other features.............snow depth? LOL not needed!
Previously I though max gust, but most anemometers are not well exposed, so not much interest.
What about rainfall past hour?

18-11-2008 10:35am

Finally got a weather station

, early Xmas present. Have it streaming data to my site, just have to get the wind sensor put up this weekend.

New Ireland Weather Network. Weather Stations Wanted

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