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Three teenagers crushed to death in Tyrone

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Wesser wrote: »
    Shocked and sad to hear this story. May they rest in peace and condolences to their families.


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    Horrific. Facts are scarce about this so far but I know the Psni put out a message on Facebook for all parents to come and collect their kids from the disco.

    These teenage discos have got bad press around here for a long time. I don’t even want to imagine what their parents are going through.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Christ that's grim :(

    RIP


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,115 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Terrible thing. Between that car crash in Kilbeggan, the woman going missing after the hen party in Carlingford and those poor kids, it has been a bad Paddy's weekend.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can't imagine what the parents are going through, heartbreaking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    The hotel has the appearance of a stately country home from the photos.

    It looks quite small. Possibly more teenagers turned up than was expected.

    Condolences to the grieving families and the witnesses & survivors.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Iano813


    Really no words to describe what happened here.

    RIP


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,073 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Just read it . So sad for all .RIP to the victims


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Shocking. RIP.
    spurious wrote: »
    Terrible thing. Between that car crash in Kilbeggan, the woman going missing after the hen party in Carlingford and those poor kids, it has been a bad Paddy's weekend.

    Bad weekend alright. 2 men also killed in a car crash near Carlingford last night and a motorcyclist this morning in Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    It was described in six words in the thread title.

    Grow up.
    RIP to those young people. Awful tragedy.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    An incident that really hits home as I've made many runs over the years to the Greenvale to leave / pick up the kids and their friends. A very popular venue at this age group with youngsters coming from far and wide to attend. Devastating news and every parents worst nightmare. May the kids involved Rest In Peace. My thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of those involved.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,435 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Absolutely heartbreaking. Horrible tragedy. Reminiscent of the Stardust albeit on a smaller scale, but just as tragic :(

    May they rest in peace.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    Horrific for the families. God love them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Horrible way to go. Shocking. Every parents worst nightmare, a lot of families will feel this loss.

    RIP.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Horrific. Facts are scarce about this so far but I know the Psni put out a message on Facebook for all parents to come and collect their kids from the disco.

    These teenage discos have got bad press around here for a long time. I don’t even want to imagine what their parents are going through.

    The owners of the hotel will be in more than a spot of bother over this incident, as far as I remember, the Greenvale disco on a Sunday night isn't a teenage disco, ie there is a full bar on site selling alcoholic beverages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Mod

    No speculation please. Assume people affected by this could be reading your words and show some respect please.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    I couldn’t believe this when I heard about it this morning. So very sad thinking of those poor children being excited and happy looking forward to a night out with their friends and then this horrific tragedy to happen. I know it’s been said before but it really is every parents worst nightmare. May they Rest In Peace.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    The owners of the hotel will be in more than a spot of bother over this incident, as far as I remember, the Greenvale disco on a Sunday night isn't a teenage disco, ie there is a full bar on site selling alcoholic beverages.

    That's par for the course in the area (and is think across the country), I did the whole circuit, including the greenvale, myself back in the day, rite of passage from age 16 to early 20's. There was always the chance you'd be turned away, if security didn't accept ur id, but all attendees are and were fully aware that alcohol is on sale inside. There'll be questions to answer, but this happened before kids got entry afaik.

    Absolutely tragic, as a parent now, I just can't imagine that you'd drop your kid off, never for a minute thinking it would be for the last time.
    Thoughts and prayers truly go out to the victims.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Glenbhoy wrote: »
    That's par for the course in the area (and is think across the country), I did the whole circuit, including the greenvale, myself back in the day, rite of passage from age 16 to early 20's. There was always the chance you'd be turned away, if security didn't accept ur id, but all attendees are and were fully aware that alcohol is on sale inside. There'll be questions to answer, but this happened before kids got entry afaik.

    Absolutely tragic, as a parent now, I just can't imagine that you'd drop your kid off, never for a minute thinking it would be for the last time.
    Thoughts and prayers truly go out to the victims.

    Meet your brother.

    Clubland, Glenavon, Greenvale, and would alternate with The Elk or Arbys the following weekend it was the biz in the early 90s.

    Yeah there was a blind eye turned to the underages, but this will shine a light on it now, for sure.

    This from a survivor at the scene.
    It started with pushing and shoving but everyone was still laughing and having a good time. Then the literal crushing started.

    The people on the outside of this line were so determined to get in they felt the need to not only push us against the wall but push with all their strength. No matter how much we screamed and pushed back, there was no movement.

    Two of my friends fell to the ground. I tried to pull them up but at that point there was no room for them to even come back up. So I started screaming at the top of my lungs:
    “My friends are on the ground, move back!”
    “My friends have fainted, move back!”
    “My friends can’t breath, move back!”
    - nothing. Not one bit of movement.

    I could still see people laughing with no idea what was going on. At this point I thought my friends were going to die, I was standing up and I couldn’t breath so I couldn’t imagine how they felt. I was hysterically screaming for people to move but it was only the people around me who knew the seriousness.

    With more and more pushing, I also fell. But the thing about me was that I wasn’t on the ground, I was on top of someone, and this person was on top of someone else. As I looked down I could see multiple bodies underneath me and as I looked up I could see multiple bodies on top of me. It was the most traumatic, frightening and stressful moment of my life.

    I was looking about for my friends and trying to keep my head up. As dramatic as it sounds, I closed my eyes for a little and accepted what was going to happen however, an elbow to my throat soon woke me up. People were scratching, biting and grabbing anything they could to pull themselves up to breath. I think that’s what really shows the seriousness of it all, people were literally fighting for their lives.

    It got to a point where even when I had my eyes open, I couldn’t see. It felt like this went on forever but eventually I felt bodies being dragged over me and beside me. It wasn’t the bouncers and it wasn’t the police, it was the young people in the line who pulled me out.

    My leg was caught underneath someone and my hair was caught somewhere else, my jeans were pulled down around my thighs and my jersey above my head but I was getting pulled out nonetheless. I lay on the ground and opened my eyes, I remember seeing some motionless legs, a few socks and shoes and then I was pulled up and brought away.

    I rang my parents to explain what had happened and let them know I was okay, I then tried to find my friends. I ran about frantically. I seen a young boy lying motionless trying to be resuscitated by the ambulance crew and I seen his friends screech as they found out he wasn’t going to make it.

    I don’t think I will ever experience more relief in my life than when I seen one of my friends that had fallen, I was shocked she was alive. We all eventually found each other apart from my other friend that had fallen. We heard people had seen him, that he was roughed up but he was okay, I needed to see him myself though. He then came running towards us sobbing and all we could do was hug him.

    These ‘people’ aren’t just ‘people’, they were young people, teenagers at 16/17 years old. They were only children.

    It could’ve been anyone.

    Unfortunately, a friend of mine who I had seen in the line and chatted to minutes beforehand has died. Morgan and the two other angels, just like the rest of us, left their families last night for an enjoyable night out but unlike the rest of us, they didn’t make it home. My heart breaks for their poor families.

    There is no sugar coating what happened last night. As it got serious, we banged the windows of the hotel and tried to get help. The people inside simply looked away. While this was happening the gates were still locked and the bouncers were no help. If it wasn’t for the young people doing the right thing and ringing the police, the situation could’ve been so much worse.

    The truth is, this could’ve been prevented.

    I’m heartbroken.💔

    Doesn't bear thinking about tbh.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That survivor’s report is heartbreaking


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    This from a survivor at the scene.

    That’s pretty grim reading.

    Horrible. RIP


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,292 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    RIP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    Very tough read. RIP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    That is seriously horrific reading. So damn specific and detailed. Mentally scarring imagery for that poor kid (and those others involved. Not just remembering their friends. First instincts in any sort of a medium to large crowd will be to revert to that incident from hereon for a lot of them.
    I hate crowds as it is, even the likes of the Luas at peak commute times I somewhat freak out and get anxious, so I can't imagine how it would be for those. Everybody thinks, no matter how full, there is always room for one more. It isn't just kids.
    Hopefully they get serious help. Stressful enough being that age for many kids, especially nowadays. Exams, looks, dating, this god awful instagram figure plague.
    Having to deal with these memories, I dunno, and then for others, no matter what, there will be guilt. Hopefully pointing fingers and speculation is not the immediate concern for most. Especially media.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    Meet your brother.

    Clubland, Glenavon, Greenvale, and would alternate with The Elk or Arbys the following weekend it was the biz in the early 90s.

    Indeed and joined by magherafelt just before I left for Dublin.
    Started hearing about this last night shortly after it happened. Thankfully, my nieces abd nephews who could have been there were quickly accounted for, but many confusing stories going round, social media in the troubles would have been manic.
    As I said earlier, really makes you think. Heart breaking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Samuel Vimes


    Absolutely horrendous
    Sympathy to the familys and friends of the victims of this tragedy.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RIP

    With so much known about crowd control and what is required from a safety perspective these days, and this being a regular and well known venue, it's very hard to come to terms that it's actually possible for such a tragedy to occur in Ireland in 2019.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Terrible tragedy and sympathies to the families involved. What's puzzling is how many people were involved and how did they all arrive at once? Who was organising their arrival? Must have been a couple of busloads at minimum? Why did the queue get stuck?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Such a hard read.

    Did it happen on the way in then? The crowd were all trying to get in and were pushing forward?

    It's so hard to believe that three young people could die like this. RIP.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That witness account is hard to read. My daughter has been up to Cookstown a few times when she was at Magee in Derry.

    RIP to those who have died. May all those affected get the help that they will no doubt need.


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