Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

TitianGerm · 08-03-2019 11:05am

Woden wrote: »

For those that like this sort of thing. Future Press are doing the guide. The bloodborne one is a nice piece.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sekiro-Shadows-Die-Twice/dp/3869930942/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_5?keywords=sekiro+shadows+die+twice+guide&qid=1552038640&s=gateway&sr=8-5-fkmrnull

Ordered that. The Future Press books are great!!

TitianGerm · 10-03-2019 12:28am

Digital Foundry have a first look up for the PS4 Pro version.

https://youtu.be/rQItIcu9vvA

Icyseanfitz · 10-03-2019 12:17pm

this might just scratch that onimusha itch ive had for a while now

Vicxas · 10-03-2019 12:33pm

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

this might just scratch that onimusha itch ive had for a while now

Did you try the re-master?

TitianGerm · 10-03-2019 12:34pm

Have this pre-ordered on the X in GameStop. Think I'll swap the pre-order to Division 2 and just grab Sekiro on PC.

nix · 10-03-2019 1:37pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Have this pre-ordered on the X in GameStop. Think I'll swap the pre-order to Division 2 and just grab Sekiro on PC.

Just get them both on pc, save a fortune

TitianGerm · 10-03-2019 1:41pm

nix wrote: »

Just get them both on pc, save a fortune

I have credit in GameStop to use. Maybe put it towards Lugui Mansion 3

nix · 10-03-2019 2:16pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

I have credit in GameStop to use. Maybe put it towards Lugui Mansion 3

Up to you, but thats a better idea. The division will look and play better on pc, and plus, mouse and keyboard

TitianGerm · 10-03-2019 2:18pm

nix wrote: »

Up to you, but thats a better idea. The division will look and play better on pc, and plus, mouse and keyboard

Aiming was good in the Beta alright but there's a good few of the lads getting it on Xbox.

brianregan09 · 11-03-2019 10:25pm

Is this going to be one of those git good games ? heard it's from some of the same people who did Tenchu and it looks similar but I'm not a huge fan of those bloodborne/souls games that bully you into submission

11-03-2019 10:28pm

Trophies for those interested http://www.powerpyx.com/sekiro-shadows-die-twice-trophy-list-revealed/

Not sure if they are spoliery , they do give away boss names at least.

Retr0gamer · 11-03-2019 11:22pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

Is this going to be one of those git good games ? heard it's from some of the same people who did Tenchu and it looks similar but I'm not a huge fan of those bloodborne/souls games that bully you into submission

The souls games aren't as hard as the press try to make them out to be. You're missing out on the best games if the last 20 years by not playing them.

All you need to do is git gud.

11-03-2019 11:38pm

And they have an easy easier mode in the ability to summon help. I've played much harder games over the years that artificially increase the higher difficultly by making enemies bullet sponges and giving you f all health etc. Souls games give you a fighting chance for the most part in that you can get new gear and level up a stat a bit. 9 times out of 10 you died because you were unfamiliar with something, got impatient or got careless. There is that 1 time out of 10 were yeah the game gives you the middle finger

Actually some of the best fun I've had is co-oping these games with my partner. We'll maybe not Dark Souls the first time as it was a pain to get matched up.

12-03-2019 12:19am

brianregan09 wrote: »

Is this going to be one of those git good games ? heard it's from some of the same people who did Tenchu and it looks similar but I'm not a huge fan of those bloodborne/souls games that bully you into submission

I believe that this game will be more accessible in that you don't have to worry about stamina and what build you use as there is no stamina and there is only one character.

will still be hard but more accessible initially.

sweetie · 12-03-2019 2:36am

brianregan09 wrote:

Is this going to be one of those git good games ? heard it's from some of the same people who did Tenchu and it looks similar but I'm not a huge fan of those bloodborne/souls games that bully you into submission

It is a From Software game, same crowd that made the souls/borne games though.

BeerWolf · 12-03-2019 7:28am

With the total lack of multiplayer (co-op) I am incredibly apprehensive in buying the game, which is a pity. I thoroughly enjoyed Dark Souls and Bloodborne because of it, as well as Nioh.

I tried The Surge, which is very similar to the Souls series, lacked a multiplayer... and that made me quickly grow bored of it...

Why FromSoftware opted out of it baffles me.

gimli2112 · 12-03-2019 8:59am

The co-op option in Bloodborne was fantastic. I'm a little apprehensive about this too without that option. In saying that BB is one of my favourite games and I couldn't get DS III

nix · 12-03-2019 11:23am

Meh, always found the PvP in soulsborne lacking, more often than not, it was inconsistent lag fighting, getting hit when they are nowhere near you..

The invading was a fun aspect, but again usually a diluted experience with lag, i could take it or leave it.

Co-op, while i can see it being fun doing it with friends. Overall, it just takes away from the sense of achievement. You could cheese every fight with ease, you're not really beating the game that way.

And Sekiro, from what ive seen, PvP would go on forever, being able to move so fast and grapple away, chasing people would grow very tedious, so kinda glad its not there :pac:

YouSavedMyLife · 12-03-2019 11:37am

Glad we aren't getting co-op. This will separate the men from the little girls

Vicxas · 12-03-2019 11:52am

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Glad we aren't getting co-op. This will separate the men from the little girls

They seem to throw in some NPC's here and there. But yeah im glad it'll be a good test of your skills.

TheRepentent · 19-03-2019 9:11am

Does anyone know when you can start to download the game for it to be ready to play on the 22nd ? On PS4.

Looking forward to this game I have to admit...only worry is I'm sh1te at parrying

heebusjeebus · 19-03-2019 9:15am

TheRepentent wrote: »

Does anyone know when you can start to download the game for it to be ready to play on the 22nd ? On PS4.

Download should be available now on the PSN.

Having a baby not sleeping and the in-laws staying this weekend, I'm not going to be able to play this for a while

ArthurG · 19-03-2019 9:42am

I love the Souls series, just completed my umpteenth run of DS3, and recently started a new DS1 play through. DS2 takes too long lol.

Based on what I'm seeing and hearing, I think there is going to be a lot of salt with this game due to the very different mechanics. I also am flabbergasted by the removal of co-op, which I tend to use to farm souls and embers a lot. Whilst I'm pretty OK with backstabbing, I never really got parrying down, so the fact that this seems to be such a big part of the combat does worry me a bit.....

Anyway, all will be known shortly!

Retr0gamer · 19-03-2019 10:13am

I think a lot of people are expecting Dark souls from this game when From are making a very different game.

TheRepentent · 19-03-2019 10:31am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I think a lot of people are expecting Dark souls from this game when From are making a very different game.

Yeah from what I seen it is different and in a good way.

Having said that I do think you can see the DS heritage in the game.

Mickeroo · 19-03-2019 10:59am

ArthurG wrote: »

I love the Souls series, just completed my umpteenth run of DS3, and recently started a new DS1 play through. DS2 takes too long lol.

Based on what I'm seeing and hearing, I think there is going to be a lot of salt with this game due to the very different mechanics. I also am flabbergasted by the removal of co-op, which I tend to use to farm souls and embers a lot. Whilst I'm pretty OK with backstabbing, I never really got parrying down, so the fact that this seems to be such a big part of the combat does worry me a bit.....

Anyway, all will be known shortly!

Parrying was something I didn't use much in DS outside of PvP but it was a big part of the gameplay in Bloodborne and I had no problems with it once I got used to not having a shield.

Vicxas · 19-03-2019 12:51pm

Reviews should start popping up shortly, not that they'll stop me from playing the game anyway.

TheRepentent · 19-03-2019 12:57pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Reviews should start popping up shortly, not that they'll stop me from playing the game anyway.

I think I read the day before but I could be wrong .

heebusjeebus · 19-03-2019 12:57pm

Thurs 8am Pacific time I think it was.

TitianGerm · 19-03-2019 9:59pm

Where are people getting their PC copy?

brianregan09 · 19-03-2019 10:33pm

I'm so torn on buying this or not , I love the whole setting and loved the Tenchu games on PS1 , but I'm turned off by the whole Souls/Bborne type difficulty

TitianGerm · 19-03-2019 10:34pm

brianregan09 wrote: »

I'm so torn on buying this or not , I love the whole setting and loved the Tenchu games on PS1 , but I'm turned off by the whole Souls/Bborne type difficulty

Wait until its available cheaper. Probably down to €50 in two weeks.

Retr0gamer · 20-03-2019 12:59am

brianregan09 wrote: »

I'm so torn on buying this or not , I love the whole setting and loved the Tenchu games on PS1 , but I'm turned off by the whole Souls/Bborne type difficulty

The difficulty of these games is overly exaggerated by the press.

YouSavedMyLife · 20-03-2019 1:02am

Don't listen to him, they are some of the hardest games ever created

gimli2112 · 20-03-2019 8:50am

they're easier than I expected but can be bone crushingly difficult at times, particularly if you don't know what you're doing

ArthurG · 20-03-2019 9:45am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

The difficulty of these games is overly exaggerated by the press.

Wut? lol

Digital Solitude · 20-03-2019 10:01am

TitianGerm wrote: »

Where are people getting their PC copy?

GMG still seems to be cheapest, I'm in two minds between buying on GMG now and have it for launch for get it the weekend for a tenner less

TitianGerm · 20-03-2019 10:24am

Digital Solitude wrote: »

GMG still seems to be cheapest, I'm in two minds between buying on GMG now and have it for launch for get it the weekend for a tenner less

Yea that's what I'm thinking as well. Think I'll wait because I don't think I'll have time to play this weekend anyway.

Retr0gamer · 20-03-2019 10:48am

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Don't listen to him, they are some of the hardest games ever created

Compared to stuff like ghouls n ghosts, contra hard corp and others they are a walk in the park. They might be tough but they are perfectly manageable by anyone with even the most cack handed amount of skill.

I just feel it's a shame people let the overly exaggerated difficulty put them off experiencing far an away the best series of games in the last 15 years.

Kiith · 20-03-2019 12:55pm

They punish stupidity and people who don't learn from their mistakes. Most enemies can be beaten with a bit of thought, and coming up with an actual plan.

Saying that, i never finished DS3 or Bloodborne...so not sure which of the above i am

johnny_ultimate · 20-03-2019 1:17pm

It’s ludicrous to suggest the Souls games aren’t difficult. Are they manageable? Absolutely. Do they reward patience? Of course. Are there harder games? Sure. But they’re still difficult: a basic analysis of the games shows many design choices based around challenging the player in a way that’s unusual in most game design (that comes with the note that there’s also systems to aid players).

I don’t think that interested players should be scared off by the difficulty: they’re hardly insurmountable, and are deeply, deeply rewarding experiences overall. Their critical acclaim is well-earned, and anybody committed to tackling the games will almost certainly succeed. But the reputation for difficulty is fair. They require time, commitment and patience - the games are rewarding because of it, but still a certain level of commitment and skill is required. There’s no exaggeration or screaming red alarm when I say that: just merely a simple statement of fact. Still can’t recommend them enough, but again seems somewhat absurd to me to suggest their reputation is unearned. The whole ‘git gud’ dismissal of people who will find them difficult - because they are difficult - is condescending and unfair.

TitianGerm · 20-03-2019 1:18pm

Kiith wrote: »

They punish stupidity and people who don't learn from their mistakes. Most enemies can be beaten with a bit of thought, and coming up with an actual plan.

Saying that, i never finished DS3 or Bloodborne...so not sure which of the above i am

Bloodborne is my favorite game of this generation and was my first Souls game. Almost packed it in when I couldn't kill the Cleric Beast but eventually killed him after about the 60th go, I actually ran around the house celebrating :pac:

petes · 20-03-2019 1:20pm

Playing Dark Souls on the Switch at the minute. Preordered Sekiro on the PS Store this morning

Vicxas · 20-03-2019 1:24pm

petes wrote: »

Playing Dark Souls on the Switch at the minute. Preordered Sekiro on the PS Store this morning

Did anyone see the Japanese Pre-order theme for the PS4, its beautiful.

Cant see one for us though

Retr0gamer · 20-03-2019 3:40pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

It’s ludicrous to suggest the Souls games aren’t difficult. Are they manageable? Absolutely. Do they reward patience? Of course. Are there harder games? Sure. But they’re still difficult: a basic analysis of the games shows many design choices based around challenging the player in a way that’s unusual in most game design (that comes with the note that there’s also systems to aid players).

I don’t think that interested players should be scared off by the difficulty: they’re hardly insurmountable, and are deeply, deeply rewarding experiences overall. Their critical acclaim is well-earned, and anybody committed to tackling the games will almost certainly succeed. But the reputation for difficulty is fair. They require time, commitment and patience - the games are rewarding because of it, but still a certain level of commitment and skill is required. There’s no exaggeration or screaming red alarm when I say that: just merely a simple statement of fact. Still can’t recommend them enough, but again seems somewhat absurd to me to suggest their reputation is unearned. The whole ‘git gud’ dismissal of people who will find them difficult - because they are difficult - is condescending and unfair.

I'm not saying they aren't tough. It's more the marketing and some of the press have this attitude that anyone that isn't some sort of elite players with insane skills need not apply. That there is a gross exaggeration. I find it's scared away a lot of people from trying the games. I've convinced a lot of people that have been scared away from them and the vast majority of them have ended up falling in love with the series.

Sephiroth_dude · 20-03-2019 4:13pm

Don't watch if you want too avoid spoilers.

brianregan09 · 20-03-2019 8:23pm

I'm not scared off I have played Bloodborne and did find it very hard

petes · 20-03-2019 8:37pm

It's really all about learning and patience.

I'd prefer not to mention how many times I've died rolling off a cliff though..

petes · 20-03-2019 8:39pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Did anyone see the Japanese Pre-order theme for the PS4, its beautiful.

Cant see one for us though

Haven't downloaded yet but bit does say you get two themes for pre-ordering!

brianregan09 · 20-03-2019 9:03pm

Were the Tenchu games that difficult ? I know I finished them all but I can't remember how difficult they were I used to use a hit and rooftop strategy , but yeah I'm really edging towards wanting this

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

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