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Milk Price III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Who ever is over their website should get a good talking to. My milk statement is a mess..

    Full of [x]'s instead of any numbers? That's all that's in mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Full of [x]'s instead of any numbers? That's all that's in mine.

    Same here


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭topgeas


    Same here also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭dar31


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Full of [x]'s instead of any numbers? That's all that's in mine.

    Same here cans see anything yet the father can open it and see full statement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    I've sent mine onto MI6 at GCHQ for decoding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    It's working now, see a note at the bottom that due to a system error we were overpaid vat and it will be taken off next month...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    dar31 wrote: »
    Same here cans see anything yet the father can open it and see full statement.
    working on pc here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Looks like just over 2k tonnes of skim left in intervention. And price reported rising again.
    https://twitter.com/INTL_EUDairy/status/1098526866602889216?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    We have an extra 5 week month this year to sort that out. July I think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Timmaay wrote: »
    What sort of calender are Glanbia operating on that they can call them dates Feb ffs?? That screws up my liquid bonus for feb totally not having more collections in Feb, and leaves me without a hope of getting the early lactation bonus.

    Early lactation bonus is spring producer only
    Liquid don't get it
    If you've sold your contract in the new glanbia scheme, you wont get it either until the transition period is over,so not until Jan 2021
    Please take down that attachment though for your own sake
    No one else posts the likes of that on a public forum!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    How would this work out of it happened in Irish coops in a Cent’s per litre basis I wonder??

    European milk processor to pay out all of its €290m profit to farmers following drought
    https://www.farmireland.ie/dairy/european-milk-processor-to-pay-out-all-of-its-290m-profit-to-farmers-following-drought-37834735.html

    Or on reflection I assume it’s being paid as a dividend

    Either way it’s a nice touch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭alps


    Panch18 wrote: »
    How would this work out of it happened in Irish coops in a Cent’s per litre basis I wonder??

    European milk processor to pay out all of its €290m profit to farmers following drought
    https://www.farmireland.ie/dairy/european-milk-processor-to-pay-out-all-of-its-290m-profit-to-farmers-following-drought-37834735.html

    Or on reflection I assume it’s being paid as a dividend

    Either way it’s a nice touch

    Averages at 22,500 per farmer. No idea of their supply, but it could be up to 2c/l


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Due to circumstances, namely Brexit, we’re only being offered a price just for the month of March.
    34.5cpl + vat for base 3.2p and 3.8bf.
    1cpl to be deduced from all deliveries and given back later in the off season of July/Aug/Sept.

    Happy days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I said I'd throw up the IFA market blog about milk prices and supply, there's a bit of reading in it.
    https://www.ifa.ie/market-reports/market-reports-7/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Any chance of an increase in February milk price?


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭moneyheer


    Sure according to Glanbia aren't we lucky to get what we are geting


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any chance of an increase in February milk price?

    Lakeland have held their price so no change this month, I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Glanbia have dropped support to 0.5c meaning 31.5c for Feb
    That's a drop of 0.5c in base price even with the cookie jar

    That'll pay for the trading scheme from last month so...
    You couldn't make this up :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any chance of an increase in February milk price?

    No chance of an increase, you get a drop of 0.5cpl for all your hard work. 30cpl base price plus 1 cpl interim market payment plus 0.5cpl of our own money. 31.5cpl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Glanbia have dropped support to 0.5c meaning 31.5c for Feb
    That's a drop of 0.5c in base price even with the cookie jar

    That'll pay for the trading scheme from last month so...
    You couldn't make this up :mad:

    Crossed posts. Did the liquid lads get their payment yet???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Crossed posts. Did the liquid lads get their payment yet???

    Nope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Glanbia have dropped support to 0.5c meaning 31.5c for Feb
    That's a drop of 0.5c in base price even with the cookie jar

    That'll pay for the trading scheme from last month so...
    You couldn't make this up :mad:

    And Siobhan got a raise.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Lake lands held at 32.06cpl. Can anyone explain what an interim market payment is please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Lake lands held at 32.06cpl. Can anyone explain what an interim market payment is please

    Interim market payment means,they can take that 1c away,keep it there or add another cent depending on how the market ends up
    No transparency on what state 'it's' market is in, in the meantime
    Its entirely unacceptable for the largest processor 'majority farmer owned' CoOp to be treating its suppliers like this in the light of others paying more and obviously hikes in GDT
    Frankly it a mockery


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭oxjkqg


    Kerry have it dropped now aswell.
    0.5 cent makey uppy top up.
    What a dose of absolute scutter.
    If your in any sort of a situation in the next few weeks, and you need an excuse, blame Brexit.
    my car wouldnt start this morning - Brexit shur


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    oxjkqg wrote: »
    Kerry have it dropped now aswell.
    0.5 cent makey uppy top up.
    What a dose of absolute scutter.
    If your in any sort of a situation in the next few weeks, and you need an excuse, blame Brexit.
    my car wouldnt start this morning - Brexit shur
    In addition (excluding milk supplied under fixed price contracts) the Group is paying 0.5c/L on milk supplied from May 1, 2018 to end of December 2018 which exceeds our milk contract price commitment.
    Arbitration looks like it's succeeding, I think:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Signpost


    Where'd you pull that nugget about the 0.5c from Buford?

    Also now that you mentioned the war, whats the story with the arbitration? Thought it was all supposed to be done and dusted before Feb 1st?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Signpost wrote: »
    Where'd you pull that nugget about the 0.5c from Buford?

    Also now that you mentioned the war, whats the story with the arbitration? Thought it was all supposed to be done and dusted before Feb 1st?
    Oh crap, meant to add the link as well:o
    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/milk-prices/kerry-announces-a-cut-to-its-february-milk-price-37909027.html


    Nothing heard about arbitration officially, just some lads saying it went well and some lads saying it went badly and nobody I'd trust, tbh.


    All I'd say is that Kerry, who wouldn't be noted for giving money away needlessly, have again announced an ex gratia payment linked to milk supply for last years milk supply similar to the one announced and paid last year for the previous years supply.



    Now it could be simply out of the goodness of their hearts. Or they are getting some payment done now so they can say they were already paying 'a leading milk price' all along?


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Oh crap, meant to add the link as well:o
    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/milk-prices/kerry-announces-a-cut-to-its-february-milk-price-37909027.html


    Nothing heard about arbitration officially, just some lads saying it went well and some lads saying it went badly and nobody I'd trust, tbh.


    All I'd say is that Kerry, who wouldn't be noted for giving money away needlessly, have again announced an ex gratia payment linked to milk supply for last years milk supply similar to the one announced and paid last year for the previous years supply.



    Now it could be simply out of the goodness of their hearts. Or they are getting some payment done now so they can say they were already paying 'a leading milk price' all along?

    In addition (excl Fixed Price Contract Milk) Kerry is paying 0.5c/l on milk supplied from May 1 - Dec 31 2018 which exceeds our Milk Contract Price commitment.

    Text from kerry Co op earlier


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  • Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭Coolfresian


    In addition (excl Fixed Price Contract Milk) Kerry is paying 0.5c/l on milk supplied from May 1 - Dec 31 2018 which exceeds our Milk Contract Price commitment.

    Text from kerry Co op earlier

    Over to u glanbia with your 'commitment to pay a leading milk price'

    As far as I can see glanbia had no justification to drop half a cent and this cookie jar money seems to be becoming the norm. Embarrassing really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Over to u glanbia with your 'commitment to pay a leading milk price'

    As far as I can see glanbia had no justification to drop half a cent and this cookie jar money seems to be becoming the norm. Embarrassing really.

    The Feb base milk price is 31c/l incl VAT. Based on average Feb solids the milk price return inclusive of vat and bonuses is 35.56 c/l.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    The Feb base milk price is 31c/l incl VAT. Based on average Feb solids the milk price return inclusive of vat and bonuses is 35.56 c/l.
    That's usually a typical processor narrative designed to deflect attention from price reductions

    Solids have nothing to do with Glanbia
    They are the result of the farmers hard work and expertise and would be there anyway and paid for accordingly

    Base price drops take money out of the suppliers pocket
    You could be getting 10c a litre extra for super solids and a base price drop still takes money away
    So please don't mention solids again in the context of price drops,they're irrelevant


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭liosnagceann75


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    That's usually a typical processor narrative designed to deflect attention from price reductions

    Solids have nothing to do with Glanbia
    They are the result of the farmers hard work and expertise and would be there anyway and paid for accordingly

    Base price drops take money out of the suppliers pocket
    You could be getting 10c a litre extra for super solids and a base price drop still takes money away
    So please don't mention solids again in the context of price drops,they're irrelevant

    That was a message from kerry Co op.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    That was a message from kerry Co op.

    My point still holds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭alps




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,719 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    alps wrote: »

    Is it an excuse for processors to cut prices further if this took off as there is an insurance there for the producer to get some payout?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Very nice top up on the February Cheque on the inflation index linked fixed milk with glanbia, not often your surprised when your milk Cheque is a couple of k extra then you expected


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Very nice top up on the February Cheque on the inflation index linked fixed milk with glanbia, not often your surprised when your milk Cheque is a couple of k extra then you expected

    Statements aren't up yet. Where did you see that? what's the rate of inflation applied, I had a bit in that 28cpl scheme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Very nice top up on the February Cheque on the inflation index linked fixed milk with glanbia, not often your surprised when your milk Cheque is a couple of k extra then you expected

    Just saw my statement there the refund I got for fixed price was wiped out by the half cent drop in price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Just saw my statement there the refund I got for fixed price was wiped out by the half cent drop in price

    Smallest milk cheque we have got here in a long time ha. I was just looking my bank statements, 34grand in negative cash flow since the Nov milk cheque came in jsut before Xmas (as in the difference between my bank balance then against right now). No winter bonuses next Yr onwards either, best part of 400e/cow to tide me over from Xmas to paddy's day, that may be a rule of thumb for me as a spring producer moving forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Dairygold down to 30.5. 1c reduction. Plicks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,844 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Dairygold down to 30.5. 1c reduction. Plicks

    What was their justification for it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Smallest milk cheque we have got here in a long time ha. I was just looking my bank statements, 34grand in negative cash flow since the Nov milk cheque came in jsut before Xmas (as in the difference between my bank balance then against right now). No winter bonuses next Yr onwards either, best part of 400e/cow to tide me over from Xmas to paddy's day, that may be a rule of thumb for me as a spring producer moving forward.
    Delaval (cough:D) used say you would need 250 euro a cow to get you to a good cash flow from milk every year. It's probably more now, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    whelan2 wrote: »
    What was their justification for it?

    Not a word. Bringing it back to the fixed price they offered earlier in the year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    GDT up 1.9%. Butter up, skim down.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Coops in this country must be looking at snd trading on different markets how any of them can justify price cuts is laughable and some even talking of further cuts next month seems to be a race to 30 or below for peak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭oxjkqg


    U can guarantee it will be below 30 cent for May and June!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭alps


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Coops in this country must be looking at snd trading on different markets how any of them can justify price cuts is laughable and some even talking of further cuts next month seems to be a race to 30 or below for peak


    Lots of SS to be paid for....


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