Royal Ascot 2021

The Mig · 14-06-2021 10:38am #1

Biggest and best flat meeting of the year begins tomorrow.
Looking forward to seeing Battash back out.

tryfix · 14-06-2021 11:45am

Loving seeing Love been declared for the POW. The distance might be a bit short but the ground is ideal and she had the speed to win a Guineas.

All-in all it's shaping up to be a brilliant week of racing.

Brock Turnpike · 14-06-2021 12:51pm

PP offering a free €5 bet on 2:30 race tomorrow. Anything other than Palace Pier (currently 4/9) in with a chance of winning it?

tryfix · 14-06-2021 2:00pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

PP offering a free €5 bet on 2:30 race tomorrow. Anything other than Palace Pier (currently 4/9) in with a chance of winning it?

Don't think so, he's 2 from 2 this year.

Order Of Australia has some top class form at a mile and is still open to improvement at the trip plus the Australia's improve with age and all that still wouldn't be enough. Somehow it's hard to imagine Aidan having him revved up against a bit of a monster on his first outing this year.

Lope Y Fernandez ran a stinker on the Soft ground behind Palace Pier in the Lockinge. If he's not fubared he has a good chance of finishing 2nd on this much better ground.

The Mig · 14-06-2021 2:36pm

Would take a swing at something like Lord Glitters with the free fiver myself

clevtrev · 14-06-2021 4:48pm

The Mig wrote: »

Would take a swing at something like Lord Glitters with the free fiver myself

10/1 w/o Palace Pier is probably the best place for the free fiver

Dr. Bre · 14-06-2021 6:05pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

PP offering a free €5 bet on 2:30 race tomorrow. Anything other than Palace Pier (currently 4/9) in with a chance of winning it?

A bit of a joke they chose that race considering it has a 4/9 fav!

Cherry_Cola · 15-06-2021 6:04am

Doesn't allow the betting w/o either with the freebet.

deeks · 15-06-2021 8:12am

My free fiver will go on Sir Busker. Into 18/1 now so not loads of value but has decent Ascot form and will like the ground. Favourite looks solid but you'd have to take a bit of a swing.

Aside from that I think Bullace might be overpriced in the St. James Palace. Only beaten a length behind both Mostahdaf and Highland Avenue last time and those two are single figure odds. Worth a few quid at 40/1 4 places with Paddy.

The other one I had my eye on today was Dalton Highway for Dermot Weld in the Ascot Stakes but some of the shine is taken off that with the price falling dramatically overnight. Still available at 16s with Bet 365 but the question is whether to take the better price with them or play the extra places with PP. Paddy playing 6 places but now as short as 11/1 so I think I'll chance the 16s 4 places Bet 365.

realdanbreen · 15-06-2021 8:15am

Dr. Bre wrote: »

A bit of a joke they chose that race considering it has a 4/9 fav!

Still a free bet is a free bet. They do one every saturday, you don't even have to match it.

15-06-2021 8:32am

Battaash @2/1?

*checks what time the Credit Union opens*

realdanbreen · 15-06-2021 8:36am

Deleted User wrote: »

Battaash @2/1?

*checks what time the Credit Union opens*

I've long given up on banks/credit unions. It's now in a box out back , fourth
tree on the left, 6 paces to the right.:cool:

realdanbreen · 15-06-2021 8:37am

realdanbreen wrote: »

I've long given up on banks/credit unions. It's now in a box out back , fourth
tree on the left, 6 paces to the right.:cool:

Or was that sixth tree on the right, 4 paces to the left!:eek:

The Mig · 15-06-2021 9:20am

Bet365 is a free fiver bet on any race today

deeks · 15-06-2021 9:45am

The Mig wrote: »

Bet365 is a free fiver bet on any race today

I've just gone into the app and can't find that in the offers section? Did you do it in the App?

Gavin "shels" · 15-06-2021 9:49am

deeks wrote: »

I've just gone into the app and can't find that in the offers section? Did you do it in the App?

When you go to place a bet it gives you a tickbox for the stake for a free bet.

gazza1 · 15-06-2021 9:53am

If LA BARROSA hadn't run in the Irish 2000 what price would he be today, 7,8/1?
Think 20/1 with 4 places is huge on this ground.

The Mig · 15-06-2021 10:14am

gazza1 wrote: »

If LA BARROSA hadn't run in the Irish 2000 what price would he be today, 7,8/1?
Think 20/1 with 4 places is huge on this ground.

That’s where my free fiver went

The Mig · 15-06-2021 10:14am

Gavin shels wrote: »

When you go to place a bet it gives you a tickbox for the stake for a free bet.

What Gav said @Deeks

d00mk1n · 15-06-2021 10:26am

Has Battash lost this race twice before? Wouldn’t be going big on him

Morleystreet · 15-06-2021 2:12pm

I can’t let Ornate (3:40) go off at 250/1 (4places) without a bet. I’d just be raging if he placed and didn’t take him at that price. Shouldn’t be in this company in one sense and form this year wouldn’t give any hope.

However he can put in one superb performance a year and a repeat of his excellent run in good wood last year (neck behind glass slippers, 2-3L behind battash) would give him a place prospect. Probably finish last and at that price that’s to be expected, but just in case his one big performance this year occurs today, I’ll take my chance.

gazza1 · 15-06-2021 2:30pm

Morleystreet wrote: »

I can’t let Ornate (3:40) go off at 250/1 (4places) without a bet. I’d just be raging if he placed and didn’t take him at that price. Shouldn’t be in this company in one sense and form this year wouldn’t give any hope.

However he can put in one superb performance a year and a repeat of his excellent run in good wood last year (neck behind glass slippers, 2-3L behind battash) would give him a place prospect. Probably finish last and at that price that’s to be expected, but just in case his one big performance this year occurs today, I’ll take my chance.

66/1 ew extra 8 places b365

Milanative · 15-06-2021 2:33pm

really nothing special about Palace pier

TheMilkyPirate · 15-06-2021 2:36pm

Milanative wrote: »

really nothing special about Palace pier

Ah here. Give it a rest will ye he's a superstar

Milanative · 15-06-2021 2:38pm

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Ah here. Give it a rest will ye he's a superstar

marks massively inflated and will be beat again by a new comer

Dr. Bre · 15-06-2021 2:42pm

Milanative wrote: »

really nothing special about Palace pier

Apart from winning all the time

TheMilkyPirate · 15-06-2021 3:32pm

Been impressed with Winter power. 11/4 w/o Battaash for me

mailburner · 15-06-2021 3:40pm

hard to see winter power out of the frame 6/1

Francie Barrett · 15-06-2021 3:46pm

A race too far for Battash.

TheMilkyPirate · 15-06-2021 4:00pm

Jason weaver is some clown from looking at that performance his verdict was that Battaash will be "impossible to beat at Goodwood"

longshotvalue · 15-06-2021 4:05pm

Too late to be putting it up but Jeez the 28/1 5 places on Wembly seems like a great bet. He's not here to make up the numbers . Obv i'm also with Ontario (god loves a trier)

Panrich · 15-06-2021 4:17pm

Hopefully Bolger keeps all those dark forces at bay again.

tryfix · 15-06-2021 4:19pm

Wembley's very big at 33/1, could easily run into 2nd or 3rd place if he's straight today

Darc19 · 15-06-2021 4:20pm

Arthurian Fable might be worth a punt on the 6.10. Connections around Naas are quite confident. Everything is in its favour.

tryfix · 15-06-2021 4:24pm

That was mighty impressive.

TheMilkyPirate · 15-06-2021 4:25pm

Serious horse to put up a performance like that after being out 4 times already

STB. · 15-06-2021 4:28pm

Panrich wrote: »

Hopefully Bolger keeps all those dark forces at bay again.

I believe Ger Lyons had the balls to ask Jim whether he had crossed to the dark side and whether he had discovered the magic dust!

There ya go. Poetic Flare repeats the feat of his aul lad 8 years ago.

Of course I backed the second who is now off to stud

tryfix · 15-06-2021 4:29pm

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Serious horse to put up a performance like that after being out 4 times already

After winning and running so well on Soft Ground that Good to Firm win showed that he's a true champ that can handle anything that's thrown at him.

longshotvalue · 15-06-2021 4:31pm

longshotvalue wrote: »

Too late to be putting it up but Jeez the 28/1 5 places on Wembly seems like a great bet. He's not here to make up the numbers . Obv i'm also with Ontario (god loves a trier)

:eek:

Got absolutely mullered twice in the straight first my his own pacemaker. Never winning but

. Anyway hopefully nobody noticed, and he be a lump job next time

Panrich · 15-06-2021 4:32pm

tryfix wrote: »

After winning and running so well on Soft Ground that Good to Firm win showed that he's a true champ that can handle anything that's thrown at him.

He's obviously got a great constitution to go with a great motor. He'll be in demand at stud.

TheMilkyPirate · 15-06-2021 5:00pm

Surely it was Denise that told you to enjoy yourself Jamie and not Gordon! Lol

Milanative · 15-06-2021 5:07pm

only Ryan Moore can get that beat the useless prick

laguacamaya · 15-06-2021 5:09pm

Pretty sure Aidan tipped that @80/1...Nice wan.

SonOfGoat · 15-06-2021 5:32pm

I've backed the Stout horse - Solid Stone here in the 5.35. At around 9/2 looks a cracking E.W bet. I've backed it to win and also E.W.
Patrick Sarsfield and Solid Stone look outstanding in this race and wouldn't be surprised if Patrick Sarsfield is placed, but for me Solid Stone with Moore aboard will hopefully do the job.

5.45 Brighton, Big Time Maybe @ around 9/4 is a lay bet, can't see it winning.

STB. · 15-06-2021 5:47pm

If they find a button to switch off Patrick Sarsfield he'll win plenty of big races. Just saw the stat on that Stakes race, 4 out of the last 7 winners have been drawn 5.

Don't know why Global Storm is so short in the last at Ascot. Brilliant Light is a much better horse than him and is 3 times his price at 12/1.

The Mig · 15-06-2021 5:47pm

STB. wrote: »

I believe Ger Lyons had the balls to ask Jim whether he had crossed to the dark side and whether he had discovered the magic dust!

There ya go. Poetic Flare repeats the feat of his aul lad 8 years ago.

Of course I backed the second who is now off to stud

Ger said it tongue in cheek jokingly. He was on off the ball today with Joe Molloy and mentioned. It certainly wasn’t an accusing way

STB. · 15-06-2021 8:25pm

The Mig wrote: »

Ger said it tongue in cheek jokingly. He was on off the ball today with Joe Molloy and mentioned. It certainly wasn’t an accusing way

I never said it was any other way. You'd have to be a lunatic to say it any other way to Jim. He'd tear strips off ya.

The full context of it is following Jim's article with Kimmage in last Sunday's Independent about tackling doping, something that Jim's been looking for, for some time. Ger Lyons backs him up.

https://www.irishracing.com/news?headline=Lyons-unaware-of-doping-but-backs-Bolger&prid=218942

Dr. Bre · 15-06-2021 8:32pm

Some big prices today !

tryfix · 15-06-2021 9:27pm

STB. wrote: »

I believe Ger Lyons had the balls to ask Jim whether he had crossed to the dark side and whether he had discovered the magic dust!

There ya go. Poetic Flare repeats the feat of his aul lad 8 years ago.

Of course I backed the second who is now off to stud

It's a fascinating situation. It would be ridiculous to imagine that plenty of trainers wouldn't be using nearly every advantage possible to win races.

The question is at what levels is it taking place. Assuming that Jim himself is absolutely clean then how can he win pattern races against these cheating trainer?

His Poetic Flare gave that St James Palace field an 8-10+ lb beating today. What use are the illegal drugs if they can't produce significant improvement in a runner ( lengths ?)

It's all quite puzzling. I would assume that the allegations are true but where are the unbelievable performances in Irish Flat racing?

deeks · 15-06-2021 10:19pm

Looking at 2 at big prices in the Hunt Cup tomorrow.

Cliffs of Capri is hugely consistent at Ascot. Has run there seven times and only once outside the first 4. Should love the ground and looks big at 40/1 7 places with PP or 50/1 5 places with Bet 365. Doesn’t win that often but almost always runs his race and has won off 93 at Ascot and is only 4 lbs higher today.

Also gonna chance a few quid on Revich. Has run well is some big handicaps finishing on the premises. Likes being held up and coming late so Hayley Turner will suit him and first time blinkers might help him travel better early. 50/1 PP 7 places or 66/1 with Bet 365 5 places.

TheMilkyPirate · 15-06-2021 11:01pm

Only one bet tomorrow and that's Wordsworth. Looks a cut above this lot.

Royal Ascot 2021

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