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Sharing Architect's Plans

  • 18-01-2021 1:04pm
    #1
    BalboBiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭


    Hi guys,

    I've employed an architect who works very closely with a specific construction company. I'm having some doubts over the construction company so I'm wondering if I can share this architect's plans with another potential construction company so I have a backup option? Or do the plans belong to the architect and I need his permission? I would rather not mention this to him at the moment as I will most likely still go with the first company. Thanks.


Comments

  • #2
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,464 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    the plans are yours

    the contract is between you and the architect for his services... who his friends are is irrelevant.


  • #3
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    @BalboBiggins.

    Have you engaged the architect directly/are you paying the architect directly?


  • #4
    db
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭db


    Do not proceed without getting at least 3 quotes for the work. I would also be very wary of engaging a construction company closely associated with the architect as if there is any dispute the architect is more likely to side with the construction company.


  • #5
    BalboBiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭BalboBiggins


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    @BalboBiggins.

    Have you engaged the architect directly/are you paying the architect directly?

    Hi, yes I have paid him directly.


  • #6
    overshoot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭overshoot


    The copyright of the design remains with the architect but you have a licence to use it as part of the contract.... Wouldn't be good for his reputation to kick up a fuss as you wanting more quotes

    If there is time pressure on the project, dealing with one contractor/negotiated tender is a good way to go, but you should have an independent Qs...

    If not it should be going out to builders with an aim for 3x prices. You need to be going out with a proper specification so you're getting like for like though.


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  • #7
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    overshoot wrote: »
    The copyright of the design remains with the architect but you have a licence to use it as part of the contract.

    + 1

    If you have engaged the architect directly, there should be no issue saying to him/her you want to get 3 quotes from builders for the work.

    It would be quite unusual for any job just to get one quote, unless the builder is known to the client/has carried out work for the client before.


  • #8
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,314 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    The plans would be copyright so yes you would need the architect;s consent to use them for the purpose described.

    How or why did you end up using an architect and construction business who are obviously working hand in hand? Its certainly not advisable ... on face value anyhow.


  • #9
    BalboBiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭BalboBiggins


    I was talking to a few design and build companies and one of the building companies recommended the architect. I got the job priced by an all in one company previously so I assumed if the job comes in too high I will know by comparison. Aside from price are there other reasons that it is inadvisable? Thanks.


  • #10
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,314 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    BalboBiggins wrote: »
    one of the building companies recommended the architect.
    Ah, right. I thought he may have been an employee (or part time/contract) being paid by the building co.

    BalboBiggins wrote: »
    Aside from price are there other reasons that it is inadvisable?
    For me personally I always see a potential conflict of interest in these situations. Who's interest is served best to have this arrangement?

    You are paying the architect directly so thats slightly different from what I had wrongly assumed from your first post. Whats the architect's brief? Design, planning and works inspections/sign off?


  • #11
    BalboBiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭BalboBiggins


    muffler wrote: »
    Whats the architect's brief? Design, planning and works inspections/sign off?

    He didn't mention signing off, just design and planning. Legally do I need him to sign off on the work as well?


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  • #12
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,314 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Doesn't necessarily have to be him but you will require someone.


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