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BeginnerRunner wrote: »Is it appropriate (desirable) to do your long run at slightly higher HRs?
Most of my runs are in the 10k range at 72-74%.
Today's long run was 15k @ 77%.
It felt fantastic, for what it's worth
Depends on the purpose of the run, depending on your fitness at the same intensity and duration of the run you can encounter HR drift the longer you run.0 -
BeginnerRunner wrote: »Is it appropriate (desirable) to do your long run at slightly higher HRs?
Most of my runs are in the 10k range at 72-74%.
Today's long run was 15k @ 77%.
It felt fantastic, for what it's worth
It depends........
If you have a very solid aerobic base and need the added stimulus in your long runs then it's not unusual to start mixing up the long runs and put in some steady miles or even a long session with MP miles.
I haven't dipped into your log much so I don't really know your history. Unless you have a solid base then you're probably better placed to keep long runs easy. It also depends what you're training for. Some of the marathon lads would have more long runs with stuff than just plain vanilla long runs.
The percentages you quote are % of max HR or HRR?
As is often the case with running, just because it feels fantastic doesn't mean you should do it.
I was gonna ask of it felt easy but that's also misinterpreted a lot. What pace was it run at and what are your recent race/TT times?0 -
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BeginnerRunner wrote: »Is it appropriate (desirable) to do your long run at slightly higher HRs?
Most of my runs are in the 10k range at 72-74%.
Today's long run was 15k @ 77%.
It felt fantastic, for what it's worth
Do you have an accurate Max HR? Unless you do then HR zones are worthless.
I’m not a fan of HR training at all,but if you are using it you need an accurate MAX HR to set your zones correctly to at least have some chance of getting a benefit from it.0 -
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BeepBeep67 wrote: »Depends on the purpose of the run, depending on your fitness at the same intensity and duration of the run you can encounter HR drift the longer you run.
I guess the only purpose of the run is to get better at running
Swashbuckler wrote: »It depends........
If you have a very solid aerobic base and need the added stimulus in your long runs then it's not unusual to start mixing up the long runs and put in some steady miles or even a long session with MP miles.
I haven't dipped into your log much so I don't really know your history. Unless you have a solid base then you're probably better placed to keep long runs easy. It also depends what you're training for. Some of the marathon lads would have more long runs with stuff than just plain vanilla long runs.
The percentages you quote are % of max HR or HRR?
As is often the case with running, just because it feels fantastic doesn't mean you should do it.
I was gonna ask of it felt easy but that's also misinterpreted a lot. What pace was it run at and what are your recent race/TT times?
HR% is of max HR. HRR would be 195-53 so 142 (?). Today's run was at 151bpm so does that mean it was at 106% of HRR?!
Pace was 6m 09s per km. No races or TTs. Ran a half marathon distance before xmas at around 6m 24s, but that was only at 75% MHR so not a true test to measure against.
I'm not really training for any specifically at the moment other than to be able to run for a decent amount of time at an ok pace, while also being able to sling some heavy weights around and do most other things well too.Do you have an accurate Max HR? Unless you do then HR zones are worthless.
I’m not a fan of HR training at all,but if you are using it you need an accurate MAX HR to set your zones correctly to at least have some chance of getting a benefit from it.
Max HR is dead on. But was established on a longish row test. I'd think max HR running would probably end up a few bpm higher than rowing, but I don't think the difference would be substantial enough to make any meaningful difference?0 -
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dwayneshintzy wrote: »There won't be any hard or fast rule, no. But 20-25% of weekly mileage seems awfully low, considering many marathon training programs build to 20 mile long runs. And quite a few of those marathon programs will have you peaking around 50-60 miles per week, i.e. nowhere near 80-100 miles.
Is there any distance you want to train for?
Yah thought so. Tbf I think I read it in the Hansen Method book so since you're doing the long run while f*cked from a week of intense running, different rules might apply.
No race or TT aspirations, just wanna become very competent at running long distances or for long periods of time. Medium term goal? MAYBE a < 4 hour marathon in 2022.You could always think of it in terms of time instead of distance. To many people get caught up with doing x km per week.
So if some of your mid week runs are 1hr you could do 90 mins for your long run.
Most of us are under time constraints during the week, hence why people do a long run at the weekend.
There's no hard and fast rules when it comes to training, if there was everyone would be doing the same.
If you're trying to improve, then consistency in your running is the key.
Gotcha. Love it, thanks. That's kinda what I have been doing - 3-4x 1 hour runs mid week, maybe one half hour run included in that, plus a 90ish minute one on the weekends.
THank you
That's my Q answered!0 -
BeginnerRunner wrote: »
Gotcha. Love it, thanks. That's kinda what I have been doing - 3-4x 1 hour runs mid week, maybe one half hour run included in that, plus a 90ish minute one on the weekends.
THank you
That's my Q answered!
Running is a simple game, keep it simple and consistent and you'll improve0 -
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Unless you're fairly nerdy, you'll forget to this every now and again (most of the time) so your default will have 2,000 miles on 'em and Strava will tell you you need new runners.
Despite various apps I still rely on Excel for my training log and just include a shoe column.BeepBeep67 wrote: »2020 that's a wrap
34 pairs for me.
11 introduced this year.
Spent almost 50% of my mileage in 4 pairs (Razor 3 - 520 miles, Run Fast - 403 miles, Endorphin Speed - 315 miles, Next% - 306 miles).
Shoe of the year for me - Endorphin Speed.
2021 - need to retire about 25% of these in the first quarter and open a few more boxes (more Speeds, more Run Fast, more Razors)0 -
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Swashbuckler wrote: »I'm the opposite then. I keep garmin up to date and have abandoned strava as nothing other than a social media platform.
I do both of those things, plus an excel spreadsheet, a la BeepBbeep. Mine is a bit clunkier though, a template I've been using for years created by a guy called David Hays. Excel 97! :eek: I've modified it a bit. One of the first things I had to do was expand the number of shoes allowable. Haven't gotten close to BeepBeep's total though. 0 -
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I do both of those things, plus an excel spreadsheet, a la BeepBbeep. Mine is a bit clunkier though, a template I've been using for years created by a guy called David Hays. Excel 97! :eek: I've modified it a bit. One of the first things I had to do was expand the number of shoes allowable. Haven't gotten close to BeepBeep's total though.
131 since 2008 :eek: and a few still in Anne Frank mode.0 -
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