I am not a positive person. 2021 is going to be worse

ILoveYourVibes · 25-09-2020 2:13am #1

And 2022 is going to be worse again.

#2020 ....we all want it over.

However 2021 is going to be worse.

Brexit will have happened.

However the North will react will happen.

We won't have a vaccine yet ..and if we do it won't be the best one.

Economically the state will run out of monies.

Business after business will close.

Trump will be president.

And all this will lead to war.

And i bet the weather will the ****e too!

AND THE PUBS WILL STILL BE CLOSED!

First comes denial ..then comes sadness ..then comes ..acceptance. Then more sadness and denial as i regress

So ...how worse will 2021 be?

Sardonicat · 25-09-2020 2:16am

Aaaaaand
Always look on the bright side of life

antix80 · 25-09-2020 2:18am

Op, You're assuming you'll see 2020 through. That's optimism

Royal Irish · 25-09-2020 2:19am

I like the way you put this will lead to war in lower case and the pubs will still be closed in caps. Priorities.

KungPao · 25-09-2020 2:21am

It’s enough to turn you to the demon drink. Well, that’s my excuse anyway.

To be more positive...I’m getting a massive 2% bump in the wages soon. My future’s so bright, I have to wear shades.

ILoveYourVibes · 25-09-2020 2:22am

Sardonicat wrote: »

Aaaaaand
Always look on the bright side of life

Needs the song...

Have stopped watching RTE ...they don't see the irony in being sickly positive right now.

dePeatrick · 25-09-2020 2:23am

Trump won't be President, but 2021 will be tough with some light at the end of the tunnel, there will be a vacinne and Covid will retreat, also the economy will boom....enough of my crystal ball now.

ILoveYourVibes · 25-09-2020 2:24am

Royal Irish wrote: »

I like the way you put this will lead to war in lower case and the pubs will still be closed in caps. Priorities.

Look ...i am not as daft as people think!

ILoveYourVibes · 25-09-2020 2:24am

I think you should only be positive if you do it ironically.

KungPao · 25-09-2020 2:30am

dePeatrick wrote: »

Trump won't be President, but 2021 will be tough with some light at the end of the tunnel, there will be a vacinne and Covid will retreat, also the economy will boom....enough of my crystal ball now.

Yes. Coming into summer, the roaring 20s part II will commence.

It’ll be a miserable slog through winter, and Christmas will be cancelled, but good times are in the post.

Keep the chin up.

hynesie08 · 25-09-2020 2:54am

I'll be 5 years dead by 2021, considering there's still 60 years left in 2020.

Airyfairy12 · 25-09-2020 5:31am

Dont forget global warming!!

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 5:34am

ILoveYourVibes wrote:

Economically the state will run out of monies.

Central banks can never run out of money!

We ve no clue what's around the corner, could be worse, could be better, who knows

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 25-09-2020 7:28am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

And 2022 is going to be worse again.

#2020 ....we all want it over.

However 2021 is going to be worse.

IHateYourVibes !!

screamer · 25-09-2020 7:34am

Your sense of positivity are relative to the challenges you face. For example, there are people out there facing far worse tragedy personally and don’t even have time to think of the trivialities mentioned in the OP.
In spite of all of it, the world will keep turning, time will move on and it’s our own perception that leads to our levels of positivity or negativity. Be happy, what’s the point in worrying really.

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 7:35am

screamer wrote:

Your sense of positivity are relative to the challenges you face. For example, there are people out there facing far worse tragedy personally and donâ€™t even have time to think of the trivialities mentioned in the OP. In spite of all of it, the world will keep turning, time will move on and itâ€™s our own perception that leads to our levels of positivity or negativity. Be happy, whatâ€™s the point in worrying really.

Well if your life's already fcuked up, there's probably a lot to be worrying about

Danzy · 25-09-2020 7:36am

2020 hasn't been that bad.

Not great but not the worst year in the last 15.

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 7:37am

Danzy wrote:

2020 hasn't been that bad.

And dreadful for some

Danzy · 25-09-2020 7:38am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

And dreadful for some

Shocking for some.

valoren · 25-09-2020 7:40am

And I'm 40 in November. The horror, the horror.

screamer · 25-09-2020 7:41am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Well if your life's already fcuked up, there's probably a lot to be worrying about

I suppose, but I’m not a natural worrier. Worry doesn’t help anything, just pulls you down a deep hole. As my gran used to say, whether you worry or not, you’re still going to die.... stark but she had a point. I don’t worry about things I can’t change, I think about the things I can change or do personally to help improve my situation.

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 7:41am

valoren wrote:

And I'm 40 in November. The horror, the horror.

Ah your like us then, bollcoked

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 7:42am

screamer wrote:

I suppose, but Iâ€™m not a natural worrier. Worry doesnâ€™t help anything, just pulls you down a deep hole. As my gran used to say, whether you worry or not, youâ€™re still going to die.... stark but she had a point. I donâ€™t worry about things I canâ€™t change, I think about the things I can change or do personally to help improve my situation.

Aspie here, hardwired for anxiety unfortunately, tis a bitch

Cody montana · 25-09-2020 7:43am

And a good morning to you.

25-09-2020 10:16am

How will the state run out of money. We seem to be printing a ton of the stuff right now going into debt. Sounds like we're already out of money but plowing on. I honestly don't understand fiscal policy.

completedit · 25-09-2020 10:25am

You think you're having a bad year but have you ever known what it's like to be a hapless king who inadvertently brought an end to a 300 year family dynasty over the largest country in the world and then end up in a ditch in Yekaterinburg

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 10:53am

Deleted User wrote: »

How will the state run out of money. We seem to be printing a ton of the stuff right now going into debt. Sounds like we're already out of money but plowing on. I honestly don't understand fiscal policy.

we effectively can never run out of money, tis nothing to be worrying about really

seamus · 25-09-2020 11:08am

I was reading an interesting piece from a doctor with MSF yesterday that spoke about the six-month wall. Like in a marathon you hit often hit a wall of exhausation at a certain point and you just want to stop and quit, but if you keep going you will eventually push through it.

She remarked that in every disaster zone or warzone she worked in, she hit this six-month wall. Pure exhaustion from the chaos and uncertainty around her, from the restrictions on her freedom, her fear for her own safety and of those around her.

At that point you just want to leave. Go somewhere "normal", get back to your own life, take a break from the stress.

We are at that same point right now. 6 months into this. The only difference is that we don't have the option to go anywhere else. But that doesn't mean we can't take a mental break from it. Take two weeks off work and sit around watching TV, going for walks, talking to friends, getting off the internet, etc.

Either way though, she remarks, it lifts in 4-6 weeks and your ability to think straight begins to return. Your creativity returns, the chaos seems less overwhelming. You just have to stick it out.

So if you are feeling cynical, that things are sh1t, are going to stay sh1t, and you just want to get off this rollercoaster, just remember that you will improve. Things may not. But you will. Embrace your sadness, let it in, and then take some time to go do what you love. Take care of yourself.

By November things may still look like complete sh1t, but you should feel better able to deal with that sh1t.

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 11:29am

seamus wrote: »

I was reading an interesting piece from a doctor with MSF yesterday that spoke about the six-month wall. Like in a marathon you hit often hit a wall of exhausation at a certain point and you just want to stop and quit, but if you keep going you will eventually push through it.

She remarked that in every disaster zone or warzone she worked in, she hit this six-month wall. Pure exhaustion from the chaos and uncertainty around her, from the restrictions on her freedom, her fear for her own safety and of those around her.

At that point you just want to leave. Go somewhere "normal", get back to your own life, take a break from the stress.

We are at that same point right now. 6 months into this. The only difference is that we don't have the option to go anywhere else. But that doesn't mean we can't take a mental break from it. Take two weeks off work and sit around watching TV, going for walks, talking to friends, getting off the internet, etc.

Either way though, she remarks, it lifts in 4-6 weeks and your ability to think straight begins to return. Your creativity returns, the chaos seems less overwhelming. You just have to stick it out.

So if you are feeling cynical, that things are sh1t, are going to stay sh1t, and you just want to get off this rollercoaster, just remember that you will improve. Things may not. But you will. Embrace your sadness, let it in, and then take some time to go do what you love. Take care of yourself.

By November things may still look like complete sh1t, but you should feel better able to deal with that sh1t.

unfortunately, some cant afford to, my neighbor did this recently though, by falling down the stairs, hes grand, but a bit shaken id imagine

Feisar · 25-09-2020 11:44am

I'm a negative person and a bit of a worrier as well. However when in the situation I just put my shoulder to the wheel and get on with it. Or I'll prioritize and get on with it. "Sickest child gets the attention" and all that.

Dunno what the fuss has been over the Covid Restrictions. I totally understand if there are bills to pay and yer out of a job but otherwise chill a bit. You'd swear we were in Sniper Alley in Sarajevo the way people are going on.

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 11:45am

Feisar wrote: »

I'm a negative person and a bit of a worrier as well. However when in the situation I just put my shoulder to the wheel and get on with it. Or I'll prioritize and get on with it. "Sickest child gets the attention" and all that.

Dunno what the fuss has been over the Covid Restrictions. I totally understand if there are bills to pay and yer out of a job but otherwise chill a bit. You'd swear we were in Sniper Alley in Sarajevo the way people are going on.

as you said, some are more susceptible to difficult situations, and could have been broke heading into covid

Pherekydes · 25-09-2020 11:52am

Danzy wrote: »

2020 hasn't been that bad.

Agreed! I turned 60 in April and got out of having to have a party! Not all bad.

Not great but not the worst year in the last 15.

I was born in 1960, and this is the worst year I can recall. I'm honestly dreading the winter. And it won't magically stop at 2359 on December 31st.

Mongfinder General · 25-09-2020 11:57am

Don't let this shirt distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, "Spare Tire" Dixon.

completedit · 25-09-2020 12:45pm

The only negative thing about covid is that time has ceased to mean anything anymore. A whole summer went by yet it still seems we are in February. 7 months vaccum.

Randle P. McMurphy · 25-09-2020 1:26pm

Winter is coming.

Wanderer78 · 25-09-2020 2:24pm

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

Winter is coming.

its not, covid fcuked that up to

Parabellum9 · 25-09-2020 2:27pm

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

Winter is coming.

He's making a list,
He's checking it twice,
He's not stopping at your house on NPHET advice,
Covid Claus is coming to town.

topper75 · 25-09-2020 3:37pm

You can have hope any way you want. But please folks DON'T pin it on a vaccine.

No virus in the coronavirus family has a vaccine. Keep it real on that one for the sake of your own mental health.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

begbysback · 25-09-2020 3:49pm

topper75 wrote: »

You can have hope any way you want. But please folks DON'T pin it on a vaccine.

No virus in the coronavirus family has a vaccine. Keep it real on that one for the sake of your own mental health.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

Yea, mr doom, well an important point you missed is that nobody gave a sh1t when coronavirus was infecting rodents, nobody was going to pay diddley squat to find a vaccine to save mr crow or mrs rats life now were they. Now the first company to produce a vaccine will generate billions overnight, as my dear departed gran used to say, begby where there’s money there’s a way.

Standman · 25-09-2020 4:03pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_EvX8cq4gs

topper75 · 25-09-2020 4:05pm

begbysback wrote: »

Yea, mr doom, well an important point you missed is that nobody gave a sh1t when coronavirus was infecting rodents, nobody was going to pay diddley squat to find a vaccine to save mr crow or mrs rats life now were they. Now the first company to produce a vaccine will generate billions overnight, as my dear departed gran used to say, begby where there’s money there’s a way.

There wasn't a way for the common cold. It has been with humans forever. Nothing to do with the animals you refer to. You think a common cold vaccine won't generate spondulicks for the pharma shower that make it?

I accept that the reality I point to is not pleasant.

seamus · 25-09-2020 4:09pm

topper75 wrote: »

You can have hope any way you want. But please folks DON'T pin it on a vaccine.

No virus in the coronavirus family has a vaccine. Keep it real on that one for the sake of your own mental health.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

No concerted effort has ever been made to develop a vaccine for any coronavirus.

The ebolavirus was first discovered in 1976. No virus in this family ever had a vaccine.

Until in 2014 it was outside Africa and a threat to wealthy white countries.

Boom, two years later, vaccine.

Don't assume the absence of a vaccine is because it's not possible. The lack of vaccine is usually down to the fact that there's no money in it.

25-09-2020 4:17pm

Standman wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_EvX8cq4gs

Yeah but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkhriGAlSl0

ChikiChiki · 25-09-2020 4:20pm

dePeatrick wrote: »

Trump won't be President, but 2021 will be tough with some light at the end of the tunnel, there will be a vacinne and Covid will retreat, also the economy will boom....enough of my crystal ball now.

Trump will lose and almost cause civil war in the States by refusing to concede.

Thats my prediction to wrap up a thoroughly ****e year.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 25-09-2020 4:22pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

we effectively can never run out of money, tis nothing to be worrying about really

Any chance of you having a word with my current account, it still seems to think I can't withdraw any more money?

Thanks:p

dxhound2005 · 25-09-2020 4:27pm

99.9% of the people in the world won't read this stuff. So even if they are the worrying type, this won't add to their misery. Which is a good thing.

topper75 · 25-09-2020 4:33pm

seamus wrote: »

No concerted effort has ever been made to develop a vaccine for any coronavirus.

The ebolavirus was first discovered in 1976. No virus in this family ever had a vaccine.

Until in 2014 it was outside Africa and a threat to wealthy white countries.

Boom, two years later, vaccine.

Don't assume the absence of a vaccine is because it's not possible. The lack of vaccine is usually down to the fact that there's no money in it.

It is not true to assume that there hasn't been concerted effort to develop a vaccine for the common cold. Researchers hardly overlooked it. It is also reasonable to assume that there would be a massive financial incentive for vaccinating against same given its universality and given its cost to economies globally. This the track record to date. I'm stating what is and isn't probable on that basis.

Covid-19 is a coronavirus, unfortunately, so my pessimism is fairly grounded on that front.

25-09-2020 4:50pm

topper75 wrote: »

There wasn't a way for the common cold. It has been with humans forever. Nothing to do with the animals you refer to. You think a common cold vaccine won't generate spondulicks for the pharma shower that make it?

I accept that the reality I point to is not pleasant.

The common cold, caused by rhinovirus is for most people (even with immune disorders) a fairly minor thing. There are dozens of rhinoviruses, and they very rarely kill. Other coryza viruses may at times be more serious to the immune suppressed, and this includes the benign coronaviruses. But broadly speaking the money has not been put into developing vaccines for stuff that is nearly always harmless and which doesn't stop us functioning altogether.

jill_valentine · 25-09-2020 4:57pm

Feisar wrote: »

I'm a negative person and a bit of a worrier as well. However when in the situation I just put my shoulder to the wheel and get on with it. Or I'll prioritize and get on with it. "Sickest child gets the attention" and all that.

Dunno what the fuss has been over the Covid Restrictions. I totally understand if there are bills to pay and yer out of a job but otherwise chill a bit. You'd swear we were in Sniper Alley in Sarajevo the way people are going on.

My godfather died of cancer, his treatment complicated by covid measures and staff demands, and I couldn't stay to mourn him after the socially distanced funeral because I live and work in Dublin and my family all have pre existing conditions. I couldn't hug his widow because she's awaiting major surgery herself.

I am currently in my second round of self isolating while waiting for my second test result since this kicked off, but the good news is, I can finally work from home 6 days a week instead of at the office.

topper75 · 25-09-2020 4:58pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The common cold, caused by rhinovirus is for most people (even with immune disorders) a fairly minor thing. There are dozens of rhinoviruses, and they very rarely kill. Other coryza viruses may at times be more serious to the immune suppressed, and this includes the benign coronaviruses. But broadly speaking the money has not been put into developing vaccines for stuff that is nearly always harmless and which doesn't stop us functioning altogether.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your post but it appears that you are suggesting that they could have perhaps easily developed a common cold vaccine, had only they tried properly or had an incentive?

How does $40bn every year economic impact (globally) sound as an incentive?

JasonStatham · 25-09-2020 9:21pm

I am looking forward to 2021. This has been a shyte year and better to see the back of it.

I am not a positive person. 2021 is going to be worse

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