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Sex is Not Rent

  • 18-09-2019 1:44pm
    #1
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    https://twitter.com/RuthCoppingerTD/status/1174296581639745537?s=20

    Is this where the debate has gone?

    That one scumbag represents the entire pool of landlords in this country? Apparently the landlords has too much power!

    Context is everything (and aside from the pervert) but how does this relate to the housing crisis? She appears to be leaving freely (and probable understandable). Whether she could afford the rent isnt the issue

    How is this linked to the housing crisis?


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  • #2
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    Was there a similar ad posted on Broadsheet.ie last year?
    I remember it as some old fella looking to provide a room in exchange for "company".


  • #3
    Portsalon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    The thong-waving, brain dead Coppinger seeks publicity and is prepared to post any old tripe on twitter to help her to gain it.

    Unfortunately, the opener of this thread has unintentionally helped her to achieve her objective.


  • #4
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Portsalon wrote: »
    The thong-waving, brain dead Coppinger seeks publicity and is prepared to post any old tripe on twitter to help her to gain it.

    Unfortunately, the opener of this thread has unintentionally helped her to achieve her objective.

    There maybe voters on here in her constituency. If it helps get her out I'd post it again 1000 times !


  • #5
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    How does Ruth’s tenant feel about her discussing his texts in the Dail? I’d be making a GDPR complaint if I was him.


  • #6
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Am I the only one who actually doesn't really see an issue here, he made her an offer , she said no, thats it. Standard transaction really. Theres no duress or 'ill kick you out if you don't' its an offer she could decline handy, pure and simple.


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  • #7
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,713 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Dav010 wrote: »
    How does Ruth’s tenant feel about her discussing his texts in the Dail? I’d be making a GDPR complaint if I was him.

    Oooohhh Ding Dong GDPR

    Or Dail privilege probably covers it.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #8
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    There's absolutely no reason to believe that Coppinger didn't just concoct that WhatsApp conversation all by herself as the basis of a nice bit of anti landlord propaganda.


  • #9
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Am I the only one who actually doesn't really see an issue here, he made her an offer , she said no, thats it. Standard transaction really. Theres no duress or 'ill kick you out if you don't' its an offer she could decline handy, pure and simple.

    You're actually dead right.

    It might be sleazy at but at the end of the day nothing illegal. He asked, she said no, he accepted that. No crime committed, no laws broken.

    Jog on Coppinger


  • #10
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Coppinger is such a gobsh^te


  • #11
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    You're actually dead right.

    It might be sleazy at but at the end of the day nothing illegal. He asked, she said no, he accepted that. No crime committed, no laws broken.

    Jog on Coppinger


    I thought law changed regarding this. It's illegal for a guy to offer money for sex, but not illegal for a girl to accept. Something crazy like that.


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  • #12
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I thought law changed regarding this. It's illegal for a guy to offer money for sex, but not illegal for a girl to accept. Something crazy like that.

    what's crazy about that?


  • #13
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    lawred2 wrote: »
    what's crazy about that?

    Its like prosecuting drug users but not dealers.


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    lawred2 wrote: »
    what's crazy about that?

    everything


  • #15
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Oooohhh Ding Dong GDPR

    Or Dail privilege probably covers it.

    GDPR only applies to a company or entity which processes personal data as part of their activities. Doesn't apply to individuals, private citizens or foghorn TDs.


  • #16
    Moomoomacshoe
    Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭Moomoomacshoe


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    GDPR only applies to a company or entity which processes personal data as part of their activities. Doesn't apply to individuals, private citizens or foghorn TDs.

    Was just going to post same.


  • #17
    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I thought law changed regarding this. It's illegal for a guy to offer money for sex, but not illegal for a girl to accept. Something crazy like that.

    He didn't actually ask for sex. And he didn't offer money.

    And on the GDPR point, three conversation didn't reveal any personal data like names or phone numbers. It is just an anonymous conversation.


  • #18
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Oooohhh Ding Dong GDPR

    Or Dail privilege probably covers it.

    Think you are taking my post a little bit too literally.


  • #19
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    everything

    Really? Everything?


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Really? Everything?

    Absolutely.


  • #21
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Its like prosecuting drug users but not dealers.

    Except that in a lot of cases these women aren't 'dealers' by choice..

    It's a false equivalence


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  • #22
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Absolutely.

    Cool


  • #23
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Am I the only one who actually doesn't really see an issue here, he made her an offer , she said no, thats it. Standard transaction really. Theres no duress or 'ill kick you out if you don't' its an offer she could decline handy, pure and simple.




    Yeah, I'm a bit lost, too, to be honest.


    I'm sure many tenants would probably love to have that choice. As you say, he didn't wrangle her into a 'get your clothes off or get your stuff packed and be out by 6' kind of situation.


    The message seemed polite enough. Sounds like he was just chancing his arm and it didn't work out for him.


    What I don't get about it, is how the message ended up on her twitter? did someone actually send it to her? I don't get that part at all. If I was gonna be propositioning a tenant, or if i was a tenant in the situation, I'm not sure how that would turn into a tweet by yer one... unless it's been made up on the spot.


  • #24
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm a bit lost, too, to be honest.


    I'm sure many tenants would probably love to have that choice. As you say, he didn't wrangle her into a 'get your clothes off or get your stuff packed and be out by 6' kind of situation.


    The message seemed polite enough. Sounds like he was just chancing his arm and it didn't work out for him.


    What I don't get about it, is how the message ended up on her twitter? did someone actually send it to her? I don't get that part at all. If I was gonna be propositioning a tenant, or if i was a tenant in the situation, I'm not sure how that would turn into a tweet by yer one... unless it's been made up on the spot.

    its a trend, women screenshot any messages guys send them and upload them to twitter as a "woo look at all the attention I get" kinda thing.


  • #25
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Except that in a lot of cases these women aren't 'dealers' by choice..

    It's a false equivalence

    not really, people are often forced to deal or mule to pay debts, many are trafficked into countries to work as low level dealers for high level ones. The industries are very similar in that regard.


  • #26
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    not really, people are often forced to deal or mule to pay debts, many are trafficked into countries to work as low level dealers for high level ones. The industries are very similar in that regard.

    our drug peddlers are predominantly home grown working for our own Irish born gangs so I wouldn't be so sure about the levels of trafficking.

    Either way, I'd prefer to see the whole industry legalised and regulated. But while it's not, I think the purchaser should face sanction for knowingly and willingly supporting the trafficking of young girls.


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lawred2 wrote: »
    our drug peddlers are predominantly home grown working for our own Irish born gangs so I wouldn't be so sure about the levels of trafficking.

    Either way, I'd prefer to see the whole industry legalised and regulated. But while it's not, I think the purchaser should face sanction for knowingly and willingly supporting the trafficking of young girls.

    What if he only visits more mature irish women? What if it's other men he's paying?
    What if a women hires a man?

    You also can make the argument that punters are similar to drug addicts in that they are addicted to sex enough to pay a lot of money for it - and risk a criminal conviction.

    However a bit off topic. This kind of sensationalism is nonsense.


  • #28
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    There's absolutely no reason to believe that Coppinger didn't just concoct that WhatsApp conversation all by herself as the basis of a nice bit of anti landlord propaganda.

    Like Clare Daly and her "Bart's People" letters during the Repeal campaign!


  • #29
    Scoundrel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Scoundrel


    Awww the poor landlords the most persecuted people in the land can't a creepy landlord suggest sex as rent without being judged and hounded by leftists?? Can't they make obscene profit off the desperation of others in peace? Can't they charge people to share a bed without judgement? Can't they put too many people in unsafe hellholes without interference? The poor creatures just trying to profit off the misery of others is all.


  • #30
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Scoundrel wrote: »
    Awww the poor landlords the most persecuted people in the land can't a creepy landlord suggest sex as rent without being judged and hounded by leftists?? Can't they make obscene profit off the desperation of others in peace? Can't they charge people to share a bed without judgement? Can't they put too many people in unsafe hellholes without interference? The poor creatures just trying to profit off the misery of others is all.

    Mate can you show me what properties produce the returns to be one of these landlords, most that i know are making a few quid on top of the mortgage and the government bends them over arseways to make it barely worth it.

    Also we have absolutely no confirmation that this guy is the landlord and not just the flatmate...


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  • #31
    garhjw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭garhjw


    Don’t believe a word that comes out of coppingers mouth. What a waste of democracy


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