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24-05-2020, 11:13   #1
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Are you happy about how your career is progressing?

Im 29, work as an engineer for a MN company. Worked hard to get here and I am glad of the experience.

The corporate way is wearing me down though: long hours, excessive meetings that everyone tries to talk for the sake of talking, lazy people getting more credit than hard workers, the politics etc. and so I am considering moving to something a bit more easy going, with less money.

I think the whole pandemic will change peoples attitude towards work in general.

How happy are you with your career? Do you regret staying one place too long/too little? Sacrifice too much family time for work? are you planning on going a different direction or simply just happy to have a job in the current climate?
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On a day to day basis I like it mostly but I’m going absolutely nowhere and will still be doing exactly the same thing in 20 years if I stay at it. What I need to decide is if I’m happy that the positives outweigh that fact.
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In general i think most people who have a job should just be happy they still have one.

I am one of them and while the situation may change for the worse i guess i just have to be happy to be employed. Will still in all likelyhood be down a decent number of raises/bonuses for the next few years because of all this.
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24-05-2020, 11:20   #4
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Happy enough. I left a stressful, high paying job with long hours to go back and retrain in social care. I'm working for less money but I'm a lot happier where I am and don't have to bring the job home. There's a lot to be said for it.
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On a day to day basis I like it mostly but I’m going absolutely nowhere and will still be doing exactly the same thing in 20 years if I stay at it. What I need to decide is if I’m happy that the positives outweigh that fact.
I'm abit the same. I maybe have one more promotion in me before I retire in 20 years. I think I'd prefer to cut my hours and enjoy more free time than go after promotions and career advancements. Maybe a 4 day week.
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I left a job back in October. It was in a major multinational, very well paid, long hours and a long commute. Left the house at 5 and not back until 7:30

I am now labouring on a site locally, crap money, crap job but no commute. 5 minute walk to work. Leave the house at 7:55 home at 5:10.

I am much happier now and I will stay working locally until I can get a work from home or better job locally.

I felt there was no point in spending 4 hours a day on a bus, to earn money to fund the future, while not enjoying life now, not seeing my kids enough, not spending enough time with family and friends, then feeling guilty for going out with the lads at weekend because i haven't seen the wife or kids enough during the week.

It's nice to have a good job that pays well but it's even nicer to have a job that pays enough to live a good life and actually spend time with those you love.


I am lucky enough as we did manage to inherit a house that was ready to live in a few years ago so no mortgage payment. If it wasn't for that I'd still be commuting
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24-05-2020, 11:34   #7
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I'm abit the same. I maybe have one more promotion in me before I retire in 20 years. I think I'd prefer to cut my hours and enjoy more free time than go after promotions and career advancements. Maybe a 4 day week.
I’d need to go into sales to progress where I am, which is a non starter as I don’t have the neck for it at all. Just not built that way. To move on for progression I’d need to go back to third level and add a level but I’m not sure I’d want to go down that road as I’d still be starting all over again at that (the industry doesn’t really work off experience, more that single number).

To be honest what you’re saying sounds the most preferable, work less and focus on what’s outside the job more.
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24-05-2020, 11:47   #8
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Im 29, work as an engineer for a MN company. Worked hard to get here and I am glad of the experience.

The corporate way is wearing me down though: long hours, excessive meetings that everyone tries to talk for the sake of talking, lazy people getting more credit than hard workers, the politics etc. and so I am considering moving to something a bit more easy going, with less money.

I think the whole pandemic will change peoples attitude towards work in general.

How happy are you with your career? Do you regret staying one place too long/too little? Sacrifice too much family time for work? are you planning on going a different direction or simply just happy to have a job in the current climate?
Im a PM and as you can imagine, that takes a lot of meetings to get agreements and stuff done.

But I absolutely hate them for the reasons you mention. So typically my style is to prepare a deck, literally blast through the the agenda and send out a detailed email with actions afterwards or if I feel there is little discussion to be had, I will scrap the meeting and send an email update. From the moment it kicks off, no small talk and just get on with it.

My weekly checkpoints etc would only last 20 minutes and daily stand ups about 5 minutes.

I trust all the people on the project teams to know how to get **** done as they are the experts in their particular areas and that they are comfortable to raise any issues if necessary.

Worked Big4 previously and my god the meetings were absolutely soul destroying resulting in far too many late evenings working. Seemed to be too many meetings for the sake of being seen to be doing something without actually doing anything. The politics was horrible. Similar to another poster, I ended up working on a building site in Civil Works for a year after that particular role to reset myself and clear the head.

Being an Introvert, I'm much happier working this way and so are my colleagues.

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24-05-2020, 12:01   #9
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I think I'm in the same boat as you OP. IT engineer with a large MN; Level 8 degree that was a hard slog over 4 years.

My concern is that I've hit somewhat of a glass ceiling. No matter how hard you work, or how much extra you do in these corporate environments, it's always those that shout the loudest and complain most frequently that get the raises/promotions etc. That's my experience.
I can tell when someone talks in a meeting just for the sake of saying something, when the annual review is on the horizon and they want to be noticed.

I'm lucky in that I'm still relatively young and can make a change, which I'm thinking about, but I could end up in the same type of environment elsewhere.

What really upset me was when I found out that the guys with 2-3 years less experience were on a higher salary. It's doesn't seem to be based on merit. I can't figure it out.
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Happy enough, good salary (89k) considering I'm finished work around 5pm most days and not too much pressure. Don't think I would want a promotion as don't really need much more money so wouldn't be worth the extra responsibility.
Wow fair play. If you don't mind me asking what do you do?

I'm mid 20's and not experienced the working world as much as you guys but I'm starting to realise alot of it is nonsense and to be honest, I'd want to get to a certain level salary and career wise and I'll be happy enough, ambition for career or money erodes over time unless you need those things my opinion.
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Happy enough, good salary (89k) considering I'm finished work around 5pm most days and not too much pressure. Don't think I would want a promotion as don't really need much more money so wouldn't be worth the extra responsibility.
What do you do?
I’m on €60K in construction, and by god you work hard for it, albeit I’m not out on site. But the constant company politics and arguing on sites with other trades is soul destroying, I’m only 27 but I can’t wait to get out of Construction industry. It’s a ruthless, dinosaur-ran corrupt sh*theap. No wonder the young people never want to go into it. The only way I could see myself staying in it is if I went out on my own doing small jobs where I’m the boss and just a client.

I spend most weeks looking up postgrad courses online but don’t have a clue what to commit to. Even splashed out €500 on a career coach in Dublin last year which was the biggest load of bollocks ever.
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24-05-2020, 12:53   #12
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I'd like it to be rapidly progressing to early retirement but I'm not prepared to do more work or longer hours.

The lockdown has been a real eye opener into how much time commuting and work eats up, and in particular, how much of the work is bureaucratic time filling.
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I was happy B.C.
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24-05-2020, 12:55   #14
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I earn 85k after tax and don't get out of bed until at least 11am most mornings.
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I'm kinda re-training, I have a lot of transferable skills so at the moment I'm spending a lot of time on linked in learning, and doing some course's that will further my skill set and hopefully look a lot more attractive on my CV.

I do have a job but due to COVID19 rearing its ugly head That fell through so kinda not sure where life is going at the moment.
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