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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ironicname wrote: »
    A member of antifa? But how? How can you be a member?

    From what I gather it's a bit like the anarchists in terms of a non existent hierarchy. My point was that Loughnane has nothing to do with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    Sup folks.

    Quality reading. Any other antifa forum pages worth following?

    Cheers

    F


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    PBIreland wrote: »
    Sup folks.

    Quality reading. Any other antifa forum pages worth following?

    Cheers

    F

    of course there is , the internet is full of pathetic sad little basement dwellers , great spot to find Antifa


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    of course there is , the internet is full of pathetic sad little basement dwellers , great spot to find Antifa

    Yeah, you have hit the nail on the head there. Antifa are pathetic basement dwellers, who live mainly on the internet while at the same time being an unstoppable terrorist menace who threaten to tear the fabric of society apart.

    That sums this thread up.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    Brian? wrote: »
    Yeah, you have hit the nail on the head there. Antifa are pathetic basement dwellers, who live mainly on the internet while at the same time being an unstoppable terrorist menace who threaten to tear the fabric of society apart.

    That sums this thread up.

    Apes strong together


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    Is this thread still going? Really? How in God's name could anybody ever care about minor street theatre in Portland, 6,000 miles away. I doubt they worry too much about it in Portland.I doubt it makes the news even in the US outside Portland.

    Is it some twitter driven thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭BarnardsLoop


    The "protests" over one of the proposed DP centres in the west of the country having people from outside the area bussed in to "protest" it are pretty emblematic of why this thread (and others) are still going; Boards is chock full of right-wing Americans trying to spread their brand of hate here. Of course, there's plenty of our own home-grown dopes who shriek 'the left calls everyone a Nazi these days' at the mere suggestion that neo-Nazis might exist, ready to lap it up.

    What's most disappointing is how the admins (and really everyone in charge) have, over the years, basically capitulated to them. This forum itself exists as a way to quarantine the worst of it but the fact is by not simply stomping it out, it's allowed fester on the site.

    People may jeer at the idea of reminiscing about some point in Boards' past when the site was better but really, it was. At the least, you didn't have hoards of people screeching about 'SJWs' and ****e like that. Yeah, it was 'leftie' this and 'liberal' that but absolutely nothing like the perpetual outrage machine this is. The greatest irony that's lost on these dopes is how they scream about anyone different from themselves and then scream louder about how they 'just have different opinions'.

    **** it, if that's what the leadership here want the site to become then I'm going to make sure to enjoy myself as it circles the drain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    The "protests" over one of the proposed DP centres in the west of the country having people from outside the area bussed in to "protest" it are pretty emblematic of why this thread (and others) are still going; Boards is chock full of right-wing Americans trying to spread their brand of hate here. Of course, there's plenty of our own home-grown dopes who shriek 'the left calls everyone a Nazi these days' at the mere suggestion that neo-Nazis might exist, ready to lap it up.

    What's most disappointing is how the admins (and really everyone in charge) have, over the years, basically capitulated to them. This forum itself exists as a way to quarantine the worst of it but the fact is by not simply stomping it out, it's allowed fester on the site.

    People may jeer at the idea of reminiscing about some point in Boards' past when the site was better but really, it was. At the least, you didn't have hoards of people screeching about 'SJWs' and ****e like that. Yeah, it was 'leftie' this and 'liberal' that but absolutely nothing like the perpetual outrage machine this is. The greatest irony that's lost on these dopes is how they scream about anyone different from themselves and then scream louder about how they 'just have different opinions'.

    **** it, if that's what the leadership here want the site to become then I'm going to make sure to enjoy myself as it circles the drain.

    You ok hun?


  • Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    The "protests" over one of the proposed DP centres in the west of the country having people from outside the area bussed in to "protest" it are pretty emblematic of why this thread (and others) are still going; Boards is chock full of right-wing Americans trying to spread their brand of hate here. Of course, there's plenty of our own home-grown dopes who shriek 'the left calls everyone a Nazi these days' at the mere suggestion that neo-Nazis might exist, ready to lap it up.

    What's most disappointing is how the admins (and really everyone in charge) have, over the years, basically capitulated to them. This forum itself exists as a way to quarantine the worst of it but the fact is by not simply stomping it out, it's allowed fester on the site.

    People may jeer at the idea of reminiscing about some point in Boards' past when the site was better but really, it was. At the least, you didn't have hoards of people screeching about 'SJWs' and ****e like that. Yeah, it was 'leftie' this and 'liberal' that but absolutely nothing like the perpetual outrage machine this is. The greatest irony that's lost on these dopes is how they scream about anyone different from themselves and then scream louder about how they 'just have different opinions'.

    **** it, if that's what the leadership here want the site to become then I'm going to make sure to enjoy myself as it circles the drain.

    I'm afraid you're going to see a complete collapse in sympathy for your causes now that the pandemic is here..Nor only a collapse but an explosion in outright hostility I'd imagine.
    You really are going to be fighting against the system now, rather than the usual scenario of you being backed up and used as useful idiots by the system. The money train is over lads.

    You're about to find that you're no longer useful. I'd go as far as to say that a great many of you are going to face the long arm of the law soon. Are you worried?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    I'm afraid you're going to see a complete collapse in sympathy for your causes now that the pandemic is here..Nor only a collapse but an explosion in outright hostility I'd imagine.
    You really are going to be fighting against the system now, rather than the usual scenario of you being backed up and used as useful idiots by the system. The money train is over lads.

    You're about to find that you're no longer useful. I'd go as far as to say that a great many of you are going to face the long arm of the law soon. Are you worried?

    A lot of cryptic stuff here, can you clarify what you're talking about?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    No one actually takes antifa in Ireland that seriously.


    Paid thugs that arrive, cause trouble and attack women and children on their way home from rallies.

    Our Irish Chapter has had little interaction with them and I wouldn't see it going much further then that.

    Reason I asked about other forums was to help understand the Irish landscape a bit better for the Irish chapter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    PBIreland wrote: »
    No one actually takes antifa in Ireland that seriously.


    Paid thugs that arrive, cause trouble and attack women and children on their way home from rallies.

    Our Irish Chapter has had little interaction with them and I wouldn't see it going much further then that.

    Reason I asked about other forums was to help understand the Irish landscape a bit better for the Irish chapter.

    Chapter of what?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,530 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Chapter of what?

    Proud Boys. Because what ireland really needs is more imported right wing nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    PBIreland wrote: »
    No one actually takes antifa in Ireland that seriously.


    Paid thugs that arrive, cause trouble and attack women and children on their way home from rallies.

    Our Irish Chapter has had little interaction with them and I wouldn't see it going much further then that.

    Reason I asked about other forums was to help understand the Irish landscape a bit better for the Irish chapter.

    There's a proud boys Ireland?
    LOL need a laugh these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Porridge, Corn Flakes, Alpen, Rice Crispies, Porridge...sh!t, I already said that......eh.......Coco Pops!!!


    In :cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    20Cent wrote: »
    There's a proud boys Ireland?
    LOL need a laugh these days.

    just the other side of your own vaguely annoying but ultimately unimportant coin


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    just the other side of your own vaguely annoying but ultimately unimportant coin

    I've been very consistent throughout the thread saying antifa in Ireland is tiny and not very important as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    20Cent wrote: »
    I've been very consistent throughout the thread saying antifa in Ireland is tiny and not very important as well.

    there is as much desire for antifa left aligned thuggery as there is for proudboy right aligned thuggery, very very little on the fringes and not accepted alliance by most political parties. We don't need to import, defend or excuse either.

    The difference is, theres no mainstream political party who champion or welcome the proud boys or any other far right groups, However on your side PbP welcomed and supported Joe loughnanne, right up until his latest phone smashing incident.

    And don't come back saying Joe loughnanne has nothing to do with antifa, GARN was a political vehicle run by him, financially supported by PbP and he held rallies where antifa and AFA flags were proudly displayed without a single simmer of condemnation from him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    there is as much desire for antifa left aligned thuggery as there is for proudboy right aligned thuggery, very very little on the fringes and not accepted alliance by most political parties. We don't need to import, defend or excuse either.

    The difference is, theres no mainstream political party who champion or welcome the proud boys or any other far right groups, However on your side PbP welcomed and supported Joe loughnanne, right up until his latest phone smashing incident.

    And don't come back saying Joe loughnanne has nothing to do with antifa, GARN was a political vehicle run by him, financially supported by PbP and he held rallies where antifa and AFA flags were proudly displayed without a single simmer of condemnation from him.

    There are no "sides" regarding fascism, there's fascism and everyone else.
    All parties are anti fascist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Porridge, Corn Flakes, Alpen, Rice Crispies, Porridge...sh!t, I already said that......eh.......Coco Pops!!!


    In :cool:

    That's it lad. Your in. I'll send you on your membership form and badges.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    20Cent wrote: »
    There's a proud boys Ireland?
    LOL need a laugh these days.

    There is and growing... although more aligned with the other euro chapters then the US. More about the drinking less about the brawling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    PBIreland wrote: »
    There is and growing... although more aligned with the other euro chapters then the US. More about the drinking less about the brawling.

    Is it true that **** is banned?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    there is as much desire for antifa left aligned thuggery as there is for proudboy right aligned thuggery, very very little on the fringes and not accepted alliance by most political parties. We don't need to import, defend or excuse either.

    The difference is, theres no mainstream political party who champion or welcome the proud boys or any other far right groups, However on your side PbP welcomed and supported Joe loughnanne, right up until his latest phone smashing incident.

    And don't come back saying Joe loughnanne has nothing to do with antifa, GARN was a political vehicle run by him, financially supported by PbP and he held rallies where antifa and AFA flags were proudly displayed without a single simmer of condemnation from him.

    I would just like to point out that there is a moderate difference between the European chapters and American ones. The use of violence being the main part and our bye laws reflect that.

    You won't find an article since 2018 when we started here of any "thuggery " in Ireland. It's a drinking club that has all sorts in it.

    We are just not very PC.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Is it true that **** is banned?

    Correct. But it's not a game changer.

    The ethos is to make yourself better each day. Not **** will give u more drive and motivation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    PBIreland wrote: »
    Correct. But it's not a game changer.

    The ethos is to make yourself better each day. Not **** will give u more drive and motivation

    Sound exactly like socialist youth movements.
    Western wannabe socialists and communists are pathetic. They somehow think they can keep all perks of capitalism under some socialist regime. The one which rule primarily by suppressing individual and freedom.
    People who never experienced joys of socialism yet they dream about it are delusional and a dangerous threat to society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,684 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    One good thing of the Chinese virus, antifa larping is on a hiatus, feel sorry for their parents though :D

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,530 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    silverharp wrote: »
    One good thing of the Chinese virus, antifa larping is on a hiatus, feel sorry for their parents though :D

    i cant remember them doing much recently. The fascists have been too scared to come out to play


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    i cant remember them doing much recently. The fascists have been too scared to come out to play

    or they in general just don't exist.....

    aside from gemmas ilk who did have a run of protests, theres no 'fascists'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,530 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    or they in general just don't exist.....

    aside from gammas ilk who did have a run of protests, theres no 'fascists'

    not so much in Ireland, no. The last lot who tried to organise a march here went home crying to their mothers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    not so much in Ireland, no. The last lot who tried to organise a march here went home crying to their mothers.

    One group of approaching Pegida supporters was chased back down Talbot Street by a splinter group, some wearing masks and chanting, "Fascist scum, off our streets."

    A security guard at a shop on Talbot Street described how a group of 15-20 men chased a man into the shop and began beating him.

    There were particularly violent clashes between over 100 protestors and police as they gathered outside a pub, in which pro-Pegida protestors. were believed to be gathered.

    They really shon a positive light on themselves that day.... damn fascist gardai....
    15-20 men beating the sh*t out of a guy in a shop , what a weakling that guy was..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,530 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    One group of approaching Pegida supporters was chased back down Talbot Street by a splinter group, some wearing masks and chanting, "Fascist scum, off our streets."

    A security guard at a shop on Talbot Street described how a group of 15-20 men chased a man into the shop and began beating him.

    There were particularly violent clashes between over 100 protestors and police as they gathered outside a pub, in which pro-Pegida protestors. were believed to be gathered.

    They really shon a positive light on themselves that day.... damn fascist gardai....
    15-20 men beating the sh*t out of a guy in a shop , what a weakling that guy was..

    you seem upset that a fascist got a beating. why is that? do you think the pootestors should have asked them nicely to go home?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    you seem upset that a fascist got a beating. why is that? do you think the pootestors should have asked them nicely to go home?

    And around in circles we go. Some of us like law and order, and don't what to leave it to authoritarians like you to decide who deserves to get beaten up and who doesn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    or they in general just don't exist.....

    aside from gemmas ilk who did have a run of protests, theres no 'fascists'

    Gemma and her friends are currently saying that the virus is a big hoax and no one is dying from it. Filming inside hospitals as well not very smart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,530 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    And around in circles we go. Some of us like law and order, and don't what to leave it to authoritarians like you to decide who deserves to get beaten up and who doesn't.

    you like law and order but have no issue with facscists marching in our streets. Does not compute.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    you like law and order but have no issue with facscists marching in our streets. Does not compute.

    If they are marching legally it does. If they are not, the Gardai will stop them. Not some rag tag bunch of authoritarians who are just as fascist as the fascists they claim to oppose.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    If they are marching legally it does. If they are not, the Gardai will stop them. Not some rag tag bunch of authoritarians who are just as fascist as the fascists they claim to oppose.

    Stopping fascists is fascist.
    Just trying to think how far one has to bend their mind to be able to even think that.

    Pretty far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    you seem upset that a fascist got a beating. why is that? do you think the pootestors should have asked them nicely to go home?

    no man should be set upon and beaten by 15-20 other men for anything. Theres no justification for it.
    20Cent wrote: »
    Gemma and her friends are currently saying that the virus is a big hoax and no one is dying from it. Filming inside hospitals as well not very smart.

    Yes, theres an entire thread as to why her and her ilk are bad, to me your post reads as if I'm defending them, for clarity I am not, she is a very mentally ill woman who has brought a merry band of idiots along in her quest to be irelands foremost 'shock jock'


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    20Cent wrote: »
    Stopping fascists is fascist.
    Just trying to think how far one has to bend their mind to be able to even think that.

    Pretty far.

    Thinking that you have the right to beat someone up based on YOUR interpretation of their beliefs is unacceptable.

    Antifa and people like you have a very vague and malleable definition of fascist and an even stranger understanding of how laws should be applied.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Thinking that you have the right to beat someone up based on YOUR interpretation of their beliefs is unacceptable.

    Antifa and people like you have a very vague and malleable definition of fascist and an even stranger understanding of how laws should be applied.

    There's been a handful of scuffles you'd swear they were going around attacking random people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Antifa and people like you have a very vague and malleable definition of fascist and an even stranger understanding of how laws should be applied.

    Does 20 cent argue for the legalisation of violence? Thinking that someone deserves a beating doesn't equate to any kind of understanding of how laws should be applied. I also think a gang beatdown is out of order in nearly any circumstance, although I wouldn't shed a tear if a mass murderer or pedophile got a hammering off a bunch of people for example.

    By "people like you" here I assume you mean the majority of posters on boards. Plenty of right wing posters on here seem to think it means "wearing black and hitting people".


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Thinking that you have the right to beat someone up based on YOUR interpretation of their beliefs is unacceptable.

    Antifa and people like you have a very vague and malleable definition of fascist and an even stranger understanding of how laws should be applied.

    Accusing Antifa of having a very vague and melleable definition? Didn't you define Antifa as fascists in the past?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Site Banned Posts: 27 Peruvian Flake


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Does 20 cent argue for the legalisation of violence? Thinking that someone deserves a beating doesn't equate to any kind of understanding of how laws should be applied. I also think a gang beatdown is out of order in nearly any circumstance, although I wouldn't shed a tear if a mass murderer or pedophile got a hammering off a bunch of people for example.

    By "people like you" here I assume you mean the majority of posters on boards. Plenty of right wing posters on here seem to think it means "wearing black and hitting people".

    20 cent likes hurling from the ditch like the rest of the childless ******s on here. Happy with others to do their dirty work for them. Keyboard anti fascists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭CtevenSrowder


    Brian? wrote: »
    Accusing Antifa of having a very vague and melleable definition? Didn't you define Antifa as fascists in the past?

    I don't think you read his post quite correctly. He is saying your definition of fascist is very malleable, not his.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    20 cent likes hurling from the ditch like the rest of the childless ******s on here. Happy with others to do their dirty work for them. Keyboard anti fascists.

    I don't think there is a far right problem and certainly not a antifa "problem in Ireland. Just some losers who were shown at the ballot box how unpopular they are. To try and seem relevant they have made up an "enemy". Look at that pathetic Burkean attempt at an "expose". They need to feel like victims when the truth is they are deeply unpopular and their views disgust most people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    20 cent likes hurling from the ditch like the rest of the childless ******s on here. Happy with others to do their dirty work for them. Keyboard anti fascists.

    Hahaha, I can see the man/lady themselves have responded to you but please can I know the relevance of "childless" here for my own curiosity.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I don't think you read his post quite correctly. He is saying your definition of fascist is very malleable, not his.

    Not mine actually but another posters.

    But my point is simple, you can't give out about Antifa misusing the term and call Antifa fascist.


    I think the term is way over used and lowers discourse to name calling.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Hahaha, I can see the man/lady themselves have responded to you but please can I know the relevance of "childless" here for my own curiosity.

    Maybe childless is an insult if they think someone isn't producing enough babies to battle "the great replacement".


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    Sound exactly like socialist youth movements.
    Western wannabe socialists and communists are pathetic. They somehow think they can keep all perks of capitalism under some socialist regime. The one which rule primarily by suppressing individual and freedom.
    People who never experienced joys of socialism yet they dream about it are delusional and a dangerous threat to society.

    Deffo not socialist so don't know where that came from.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    PBIreland wrote: »
    Deffo not socialist so don't know where that came from.

    So out of interest what do proud boys Ireland do?
    How many of ye are there?
    Do ye wear the uniform?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 PBIreland


    20Cent wrote: »
    So out of interest what do proud boys Ireland do?
    How many of ye are there?
    Do ye wear the uniform?

    By uniforms I assume u mean the perrys. The answer is yes for the most part. Although as you can see from the pic attached most clubs get similar customised specific to their chapter.

    So prior to the cv19 crisis, we would try meet once a month. Have a few beers and a good night out. It is primarily a men's drinking club. Most members exhibit a non PC right leaning ethos but I'm Nick named captain SJW because I lean a little left.

    We would try to a cultural part for every meet particularly if there is an international member attending.

    Late teens in terms of members with a vetting backlog because of CV19

    I've always said it's basically a men's shed where you can speak your mind without social repercussions.

    We have a number of LGBT+ and non nationals.


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