Formula 1 2018 - Round 20 – Brasil

AMKC wrote: »

Anyone else here experiencing a problem with the General discussion thread? In the forum it says the latest post was today but when you go into it it is from ''Skipper-G'' from yesterday. Very strange.
Maybe its time to start next years one?

If happens on other threads as well.
Maybe Skipper infected it.

Clearing cache and data works sometimes or just post on it to bump.

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Ocon left front connects at Max right rear. Kimi and Bottas backed out when racing for position with Ric in the same corner.

Ocon had no business lunging up the inside. MAX got plenty of criticism for doing similar moves when racing for position

Ocon 100% at fault and he should take responsibility. MAX doesnt have to leave room for a back marker

kimi and bottas chose to pull back. and not try an overtake . ocon was well along side
ocon is on the inside and following the track. max is beside him and a bit ahead. max moves over on ocon. where was ocon suposed to go. max made contact not ocon.
that very clear from the videos

ocon didnt lunge. max cut him off

why shouldnt max leave room for someone trying to overtake him. dont run someone off the track

From Kimi himself
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqDZFdSh3N-/?hl=en

chicorytip wrote: »

I remember once seeing a furious Nelson Piquet (Snr) trying to box the head off Salazar - I think his name was - after a similar type of incident to today's.

I'll leave this here.
https://twitter.com/AussieGrit/status/1061741902536564736?s=19

Hamilton's assessment of the incident is the most balanced - Verstappen was the one who had most to lose, he should have been more careful when he saw the FI sail past him on the straight; Instead he suffered one of his typical "red mist" episodes and went to tussle with Ocon as if it was for position - he was actually taking a defensive line going into the Senna S, ffs...

As for the collision itself, well, it's Ocon...is anyone surprised? He's involved in these quite often and clearly doesn't know when to back off - the S being prime ground for "broadside torpedoing" if the car on the inside is ahead after the first corner, unless the one behind takes a step back. Esteban didn't...

More importantly, one has to hope this was just a freak incident and the fact it was Ocon rather than anyone else simply a random occurrence...this is the same guy who Mercedes candidly admitted giving "team orders" to let Hamilton pass in Monaco and who oddly "misses" blue flags when someone battling with a Mercedes tries to lap him. Last thing needed in F1 is a modern day Roland Asch (go look him up...Piquet Jnr. is an amateur, in comparison ).

Daisy Incalculable Handcuff wrote: »

Rather fitting though that Hamilton defends the man who is almost certain to be his 2020 teammate.

Indeed, but he's still right. The "final d1ck move" is on Ocon's part, but Max should have known better than to fight him off. Had Vettel been in Verstappen's place, everyone here would be saying " he should've avoided the situation".

Inviere wrote: »

He's slipping under the radar a fair bit I think. I'm telling ya's, he's a dark horse for the title next year.

It could be said his performances aren't a surprise anymore...his lap on the damp track in Q2 was quite something.



Sauber have also improved massively - from drop dead backmarkers to occasionally being "best of the rest", it's insane. On this trajectory, they might have the odd shot at a podium next season, more or less like (Not)Force India has had in the last few seasons.



Fun/mildly interesting/curious thing - Sauber showed up with the Alfa Romeo logo on the on-screen graphics in Melbourne, like so:



They reverted to Sauber's logo from next race on - I always wondered if that was about being at the back of the field...

skipper_G wrote: »

Completely agree, I suspect he will surprise all those who suggested it was too soon for him at Ferrari

I think he'll be a bigger worry for Lewis at this point in time. Right now, Lewis is familiar with Seb, knows where he stands etc...Charles will, I have a feeling, come right in and start lighting fires.

antodeco wrote: »

Thing is, it depends where Ferrari put their allegiance. Do they stick with Better for another year or 2, or ultimately, let him run his contract out and invest more into LeClerc

I would imagine that'll depend almost entirely on the results of the first two or three races. It'd be very odd seeing Seb having to fight a team mate, his last outing didn't go too well in that regard. I do wonder where Seb will go after Ferrari, if anywhere at all?

Inviere wrote: »

I think he'll be a bigger worry for Lewis at this point in time. Right now, Lewis is familiar with Seb, knows where he stands etc...Charles will, I have a feeling, come right in and start lighting fires.

Maybe but Lewis has something that Leclerc has not got that much of yet which is experience and lots of it. Lewis has had good years and then the bad, tough years when he was struggling and constantly crashing into Massa and others while watching Vettel pick up one WDC after another. He said in an interview I read recently that the 2007 him would never have been able to drive like he has this season and win like he has. Something along them lines.

if ocon and max hadnt crashed and ocon was ahead coming out of that bend . at what point would the blue flags start coming out. would max have to fall back and then go to overtake a back marker

Harika wrote: »

There is a common sense approach here. As long as he is heading away from him, he won't get penalised. As soon as Max then catches him again he would have to let him by.

i think thats the only way.
with that merc engine ocon would be fairly fast on the straighter bits. it could stay very close for a good while

i think it would be fairly close for a few laps. ocon would have it in a straight line but max would be faster around the bends