Anc and Bps 2019

Jb1989 · 17-10-2019 12:54am

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

It's in the account

Same

emaherx · 17-10-2019 7:48am

Me too.....
Now I can write cheques for a bunch of other people yeah!

Parishlad · 17-10-2019 9:12am

Same here.....will be nice to look at for a short while at least!

whelan2 · 17-10-2019 9:48pm

The helpline will be open on Saturday and until 8pm during next week. My file can now be accessed. Will ring tomorrow to see where I'm at

whelan2 · 18-10-2019 11:54am

I was talking to the most unhelpful lad this morning. There is a stop on my payment. He doesn't know why, he will put a note on it. I'm no further on than when I first rang a month ago . Doesn't know when I'll get paid. Then I had to ask about my dads payment.

Box09 · 18-10-2019 12:43pm

Did you take land off for your new shed?

whelan2 · 18-10-2019 1:11pm

Box09 wrote: »

Did you take land off for your new shed?

Nope it wasnt built or started then. It's just annoying that my application went in in April and 6 months later no one can tell why I'm not being paid

Buford T. Justice XIX · 18-10-2019 1:13pm

whelan2 wrote: »

I was talking to the most unhelpful lad this morning. There is a stop on my payment. He doesn't know why, he will put a note on it. I'm no further on than when I first rang a month ago . Doesn't know when I'll get paid. Then I had to ask about my dads payment.

I'd say you're getting an inspection of some sort in the near future. I had the same problem last year with the Suckler cow scheme, nobody could tell me why my payment was held up and nothing showed on the screen for me.

I got an inspection in January, I think, and was finally paid in February or March.

whelan2 · 18-10-2019 1:14pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

I'd say you're getting an inspection of some sort in the near future. I had the same problem last year with the Suckler cow scheme, nobody could tell me why my payment was held up and nothing showed on the screen for me.

I got an inspection in January, I think, and was finally paid in February or March.

Initially they said I was in for a satellite inspection but he couldn't confirm that today

Base price · 18-10-2019 2:23pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Nope it wasnt built or started then. It's just annoying that my application went in in April and 6 months later no one can tell why I'm not being paid

Have you contacted the IFA. They are pretty good at sorting out problems like yours.

whelan2 · 18-10-2019 2:53pm

Base price wrote: »

Have you contacted the IFA. They are pretty good at sorting out problems like yours.

Will have to do something next week until yesterday my file couldn't be accessed at all. My dads file is a joke too, he has claimed the same land for over a decade with no changes and on one 5 hectare parcel they are saying he claimed zero hectares this year. New system cock up

blue5000 · 18-10-2019 2:59pm

Base price wrote: »

Have you contacted the IFA. They are pretty good at sorting out problems like yours.

Or a TD, if you were down here Mr. Lowry would have it sorted fairly quick. It's ridiculous not paying farmers on time.

whelan2 · 18-10-2019 3:05pm

blue5000 wrote: »

Or a TD, if you were down here Mr. Lowry would have it sorted fairly quick. It's ridiculous not paying farmers on time.

I think the new system they were trialling didnt work. Teagasc man said everyone is having problems. They should just pay out what they paid last year and try and fix it after. Another farmer mysteriously got plots from miles away in on his claim.

Water John · 18-10-2019 3:12pm

I have the Minister. Not sure that's an advantage. Haven't gone chasing it yet, but it's very annoying.

whelan2 · 18-10-2019 3:16pm

Water John wrote: »

I have the Minister. Not sure that's an advantage. Haven't gone chasing it yet, but it's very annoying.

It will goes back to sending out a text a week before payment is due if you will be getting the payment on time or not. We applied 6 months ago, surely they knew there were problems ages ago

Butcher Boy · 18-10-2019 3:20pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Will have to do something next week until yesterday my file couldn't be accessed at all. My dads file is a joke too, he has claimed the same land for over a decade with no changes and on one 5 hectare parcel they are saying he claimed zero hectares this year. New system cock up

ring creeds office in macroom 026 41835.The girl working in there will sort it.

Water John · 18-10-2019 3:31pm

Thanks, yes heard she's good.

whelan2 · 18-10-2019 5:57pm

Butcher Boy wrote: »

ring creeds office in macroom 026 41835.The girl working in there will sort it.

Worth a try . Will ring Monday thanks

whelan2 · 21-10-2019 10:57am

There is a problem. Department hope to have it fixed by the end of this week.

Water John · 21-10-2019 11:02am

The maps this year are more high resolution, so there chasing every bush.
Also 400 new staff, a temporary assignment, are trained each year for scrutinising the maps. This from my advisor.

Really hope Whelan you're correct.

Muckit · 21-10-2019 3:57pm

Water John wrote: »

The maps this year are more high resolution, so there chasing every bush.......This from my advisor.

I'm sure this is probably true. But your advisor (and all other professionals that suckle at the teat) thrive in a world of fear and scaremongering!

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-10-2019 4:49pm

Water John wrote: »

The maps this year are more high resolution, so there chasing every bush.
Also 400 new staff, a temporary assignment, are trained each year for scrutinising the maps. This from my advisor.

Really hope Whelan you're correct.

So they'll deduct from us for allowing natural regeneration and then criticise us for not joining artificial regeneration schemes, does that sound about right?

emaherx · 21-10-2019 5:38pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

So they'll deduct from us for allowing natural regeneration and then criticise us for not joining artificial regeneration schemes, does that sound about right?

That just about sums it up.

kollegeknight · 21-10-2019 7:29pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

So they'll deduct from us for allowing natural regeneration and then criticise us for not joining artificial regeneration schemes, does that sound about right?

That’s it, maybe next anc I’ll get paid for the scrub and docked for the grass

Base price · 21-10-2019 7:38pm

kollegeknight wrote: »

That’s it, maybe next anc I’ll get paid for the scrub and docked for the grass

That appears to be the way things are going and tbh I don't have a problem as long as we receive proper remuneration.

Tanko1414 · 22-10-2019 4:20pm

No bps payment as of yet... anyone else waiting for payment..... stressed out

whelan2 · 22-10-2019 5:15pm

Tanko1414 wrote: »

No bps payment as of yet... anyone else waiting for payment..... stressed out

Did you ring them? I have stopped stressing about it. It's a total cock up on their behalf. The money will come at some stage

Tanko1414 · 22-10-2019 6:16pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Did you ring them? I have stopped stressing about it. It's a total cock up on their behalf. The money will come at some stage

I rang them but would give me no details as I not herd owner, I am herd keeper

whelan2 · 22-10-2019 6:19pm

Tanko1414 wrote: »

I rang them but would give me no details as I not herd owner, I am herd keeper

Get them to send you out a form that you can speak on the herd owners behalf. I got it last week so I can enquire about my dad's application.

Cran · 22-10-2019 6:28pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Did you ring them? I have stopped stressing about it. It's a total cock up on their behalf. The money will come at some stage

Same here, it’s passed all checks now being told though just waiting for it to go through for payment

wrangler · 22-10-2019 6:36pm

With all the changes I've had lately I checked my application at the department stand at the ploughing last year, There was a stop on it, the girl told me to phone following Monday, so sorted it then, she asked would she prioritise payment, I agreed and payment came immediately

whelan2 · 22-10-2019 6:44pm

wrangler wrote: »

With all the changes I've had lately I checked my application at the department stand at the ploughing last year, There was a stop on it, the girl told me to phone following Monday, so sorted it then, she asked would she prioritise payment, I agreed and payment came immediately

That's the other thing it depends who you speak to. I was talking to the most useless lad last Friday. Very helpful women up to that

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2019 6:47pm

I rang about my ANC today and was told it would be after Christmas seeing as I am one of the few being kicked out of the ANC after next year because my stocking rate is too high.

Even though my neighbours have higher stocking rates and can still claim:rolleyes:

So after next year, I'll be the only farmer in the parish who won't be eligible for ANC payment. I can't wait for the next election:mad:

kollegeknight · 22-10-2019 6:49pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

I rang about my ANC today and was told it would be after Christmas seeing as I am one of the few being kicked out of the ANC after next year because my stocking rate is too high.

Even though my neighbours have higher stocking rates and can still claim:rolleyes:

So after next year, I'll be the only farmer in the parish who won't be eligible for ANC payment. I can't wait for the next election:mad:

What’s your stocking rate?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2019 6:54pm

kollegeknight wrote: »

What’s your stocking rate?

188kgs/ha, apparently the cutoff was 180...

whelan2 · 22-10-2019 7:01pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

I rang about my ANC today and was told it would be after Christmas seeing as I am one of the few being kicked out of the ANC after next year because my stocking rate is too high.

Even though my neighbours have higher stocking rates and can still claim:rolleyes:

So after next year, I'll be the only farmer in the parish who won't be eligible for ANC payment. I can't wait for the next election:mad:

Nice of them to let you know

Avns1s · 22-10-2019 7:25pm

Tanko1414 wrote: »

No bps payment as of yet... anyone else waiting for payment..... stressed out

Neither BPS or ANC paid here yet. Have rang a few times. I'm told I'm selected for a satellite inspection but cant say when it'll be done. Told ring back next week and see if there's any further news.

Can't get the ANC or BPS, Cant get the cattle into the factory. Good flippin job there's a few euro coming in aside of the farm, so I can keep the farm afloat!

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2019 7:57pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Nice of them to let you know

Yeah, it's not like it took 3 phone calls to find it out. Afaik, the money is available for payment so it's sitting in the Governments petty cash account as available for other Government requirements until it's paid out to us.

Tbh, I'm getting pretty sick of farmers money being withheld for others use:mad:

whelan2 · 23-10-2019 6:11am

Was looking at my application last night a plot of 13.69 hectares. It says I claimed none of it. This also is taken away from my total area in my nitrates statement. Giving me a false reading. Another plot of 1.16 hectares rented ground it say I claimed none of it

wrangler · 23-10-2019 7:32am

whelan2 wrote: »

Was looking at my application last night a plot of 13.69 hectares. It says I claimed none of it. This also is taken away from my total area in my nitrates statement. Giving me a false reading. Another plot of 1.16 hectares rented ground it say I claimed none of it

Have you not got a copy of your application in May.......... Very easy to confirm/contradict then

whelan2 · 23-10-2019 7:40am

wrangler wrote: »

Have you not got a copy of your application in May.......... Very easy to confirm/contradict then

Ye they also said I didnt apply for anc . I said look at my application I ticked the box. It's a total mess

wrangler · 23-10-2019 8:00am

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye they also said I didnt apply for anc . I said look at my application I ticked the box. It's a total mess

You should tell your local IFA office all that's after happening, that's pathetic,
Is it Clinton that's in your local office, I'd be making him earn his keep, I know our local guy would sort that very quick years ago ....... don't know if it's the same now

whelan2 · 23-10-2019 8:26am

wrangler wrote: »

You should tell your local IFA office all that's after happening, that's pathetic,
Is it Clinton that's in your local office, I'd be making him earn his keep, I know our local guy would sort that very quick years ago ....... don't know if it's the same now

It's not a quick fix though. The new system has fooked up. I was told that it would be sorted by the end of this week. Up until last week I couldn't even get into my application so that has been fixed at least . Teagasc man said it's crazy . Wonder will there be anything in the comic about it tomorrow. I'm ok as I have my building loan to tode me over. I will get my payment, I just dont know when

Mortelaro · 23-10-2019 8:29am

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye they also said I didnt apply for anc . I said look at my application I ticked the box. It's a total mess

Was there an apology and explanation at that point?
I second third and umpteenth the suggestion that you hound IFA to hound on your behalf,that's what they're there for
Also request a local T D to ask a Dáil question and for a statement on the Louth debacle
Been here
Phone calls from you and you alone do not move these things along

whelan2 · 23-10-2019 8:44am

Mortelaro wrote: »

Was there an apology and explanation at that point?
I second third and umpteenth the suggestion that you hound IFA to hound on your behalf,that's what they're there for
Also request a local T D to ask a Dáil question and for a statement on the Louth debacle
Been here
Phone calls from you and you alone do not move these things along

This was the most useless lad I was talking to last friday. I was getting annoyed talking to him. I'll put a note on your file bull****. Teagasc man said to wait until next week and then go in all guns blazing. Plenty of other stuff going on here to keep me occupied. It's not top of my list of priorities yet

orm0nd · 23-10-2019 9:05am

whelan2 wrote: »

This was the most useless lad I was talking to last friday. I was getting annoyed talking to him. I'll put a note on your file bull****. Teagasc man said to wait until next week and then go in all guns blazing. Plenty of other stuff going on here to keep me occupied. It's not top of my list of priorities yet

I haven't been a client of Teagasc for years as I found them useless. My indy consultant is brilliant. 1 phone to him and leave it to him from there. Don't know why you are ringing if you are paying Teagasc that's their job.

Life is too short to be putting up with sh#t like that. As you say enough to doing elsewhere.

whelan2 · 23-10-2019 9:20am

The system has to be fixed before individual files can be sorted. No point ringing them until the system is sorted. It also takes a good while to get through to department of you even do get through

wrangler · 23-10-2019 10:53am

whelan2 wrote: »

It's not a quick fix though. The new system has fooked up. I was told that it would be sorted by the end of this week. Up until last week I couldn't even get into my application so that has been fixed at least . Teagasc man said it's crazy . Wonder will there be anything in the comic about it tomorrow. I'm ok as I have my building loan to tode me over. I will get my payment, I just dont know when

That's another reason to get on to IFA, if they're not informed of the issues they won't be doing anything about it........ there's beef farmers this year that need their money a lot worse. they can't even sell their cattle.
There's no reason why they can't issue the cheques when it's them that ****ed up

whelan2 · 23-10-2019 1:31pm

County executive meeting on Tuesday night. Will try and go

wrangler · 23-10-2019 1:47pm

whelan2 wrote: »

County executive meeting on Tuesday night. Will try and go

You should phone Anthony Clinton, 042 9744870, tell him what's going on, you're being treated appallingly

Anc and Bps 2019

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