Road rage incident learner driver

beauf wrote: »

Yes what every thread needs, victim blaming.

A professional instructor makes no different to this situation. Learners stall. Even an experienced driver can stall, and sometimes if the car has problem it will stall.

The only problem in this thread is the road rage driver. There's no rational reason to defend that behaviour and blame the victim. If your can't control your impatience and anger you shouldn't be driving. End of..

Not Everyone stalls, but a lot of people do and that’s fine. In this instance it happened twice and that’s down to the driver.

There isn’t a victim here to be blaming, there is somebody whose lack of experience behind the wheel has come in contact with a lack of patience behind another wheel.

If the OP doesn’t want it to happen again then they can only control what is within their ability to control, and that equates to being a better driver. Learning to predict lights, when first at traffic lights watching to be sure they are anticipating as early as possible and Getting the biting point on the pedals to take off correctly.

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Someone who is that inexperienced should really be in a driving school car with a professional instructor, for their own sake. No excuses though for the other driver's behaviour.

Days of any randomer with a full licence teaching people how to drive are gone. That's what the minimum number of lessons is for.

I dont agree with this at all, having taught quite a few people to drive, one as recently as last year. Proper lessons are important of course, but what is equally important is consolidating what has been taught to the learner in their lessons with practice on the road, and that means just getting out there and doing it.

Drivers being d*cks to obvious learners absolutely amazes me.... Like did none of these people ever learn themselves?

The last person I taught was quite competent - just lacking in the confidence department. The cure for that is regular driving under supervision. But they regularly got flustered under pressure and stalled the car - often at a roundabout. It's a tiny car with big L plates on it, clearly a learner, yet still you would have guys(and yes it almost always was guys) going mental on the horn and dangerously overtaking. A-holes :rolleyes:

beauf wrote: »

Getting out of your car trying someone's door handle and threating physical violence is not "lack of patience".

So not everyone stalls. In their entire history of driving manual cars and learning they've never stalled not even once. Really?

Yes it is victim blaming. It doesn't even have to be a stall. Cars break down.

The first person to get out of the car was as much at fault. Nobody should get out of their car in a situation like this.

The way this could have been avoided was by being a better driver, that doesn’t excuse the person behind not being patient, but it avoids it happening again.

Ta ceist agam wrote: »

I don't know why people buy cars that require humans to drive them, like every car will be self driving in ten years.

as a Tesla owner, i concur

beauf wrote: »

There issue here is not stalling. Car could have a failure to cause it to stall.

The issue is road rage.

What you're implying here is that learner drivers should not hold up other drivers. Indeed any driver should not have to wait because of an issue with the car in front.

Are people here that impatient that they are unable to deal with a minute or two delay while an obstruction clears. Wow. Speaks volumes.

It could have but it didn’t. It stalled twice because of the driver.

The first person to get out of the car was the OP’s passenger. That added to the situation unnecessarily and can be viewed as the initial instance of road rage.

I’m not implying that learner drivers shouldn’t hold up other drivers, I’m saying the best thing the OP can do to ensure this doesn’t happen again is get better at driving.

Pkiernan wrote: »

The OP should report this incident to the Guards.

That would be foolish, as their passenger was the first to get out of the car and their actions can be seen as threatening to the other driver.

Best bet is to admit their own failings and work on them to avoid this situation happening again.

beauf wrote: »

A Telsa isn't self driving. I can't tell one to pick me up from the pub.

well the software/hardware and technology is there, its just a matter of legislation, which will take years obviously.

Jesus, this thread descended very quickly. Just waiting for the name calling to start....

beauf wrote: »

Yes what every thread needs, victim blaming.

A professional instructor makes no different to this situation. Learners stall. Even an experienced driver can stall, and sometimes if the car has problem it will stall.

The only problem in this thread is the road rage driver. There's no rational reason to defend that behaviour and blame the victim. If your can't control your impatience and anger you shouldn't be driving. End of..

You are so on point. It’s a common occurrence in today’s world to deflect from the actual topic and twist the story around. No excuse for that type of behavior under any circumstances. Well said.