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Issues with house rewire

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    #32
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    katie275 wrote: »
    Also, he is a registered electrician

    Hold on, the electrician that you employed is a registered electrical contractor? If so that changes everything, please confirm.

    If this is the case it would mean that you are in a much stronger position and can get a proper competition certificate and the REC can be held accountable. The fact that a bit of a tax dodge may have occurred is neither here nor there in terms of enforcing electrical standards.


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    #33
    2011
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    Regarding the pictures in the 1st post, in my opinion:

    Photo #1 - Unacceptable regardless of whether the ceiling joist is of structural significance or not. I would want the joist properly repaired and the light moved.

    Photo #2 - Looks a bit shoddy. However I don't see anything dangerous.

    Photo #3 - This would be the least of my worries. As already stated he was avoiding the item above the new switch.


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    #34
    Bruthal
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    2011 wrote: »
    Regarding the pictures in the 1st post, in my opinion:

    Photo #1 - Unacceptable regardless of whether the ceiling joist is of structural significance or not. I would want the joist properly repaired and the light moved.

    We can't be absolutely certain of what it's for though. Just as an example, if it was originally just a ground for a pendant, it's serving no function if pendant is removed.

    That's the thing with single photos of an installation, assumptions are made.


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    #35
    2011
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    Bruthal wrote: »
    We can't be absolutely certain of what it's for though.

    It looks like a joist and the OP refers to it a a joist...


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    Bruthal
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    2011 wrote: »
    It looks like a joist and the OP refers to it a a joist...
    Still assumptions though, that it looks like a joist. And that the op is accurately describing what they see.

    To me it looks like a flat piece of wood put in as a ground for a light. Looks about 20mm thick at most.

    But that's not my point. Point was assumptions are being used to claim someone is a cowboy.


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    #37
    handlemaster
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    I am no electrician but that work looks awful


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    #38
    Risteard81
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    I don't agree that the diagonal run is acceptable. It patently isn't. If a switch etc. needed to be avoided then other wiring methods should have been employed, for example earthed steel conduit. There isn't any excuse for what wad done. Second picture is messy but doesn't seem dangerous. First one is appalling.

    With respect, if he is a full-time lecturer then he won't be a REC. That wouldn't remotely make sense.


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    Bruthal
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    Risteard81 wrote: »
    First one is appalling.

    Doesn't look great. But if it was existing pendant fitting and a ground to support it, it wouldnt be serving much purpose. But if just drilled through it blindly, not good.
    Fitting itself not great either.

    Not that I know what's going on there.

    If that's a joist, get the carpenter back.


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    #40
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Point was assumptions are being used to claim someone is a cowboy.

    Very true.

    It would be interesting to have it confirmed whether it is a REC or not.
    Certainly sounds like it is a REC.


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    #41
    Risteard81
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    2011 wrote: »
    Bruthal wrote: »
    Point was assumptions are being used to claim someone is a cowboy.

    Very true.

    It would be interesting to have it confirmed whether it is a REC or not.
    Certainly sounds like it is a REC.
    Sounds to me that it's not a REC. We were told that the person in question is a full-time lecturer.


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    #42
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Risteard81 wrote: »
    Sounds to me that it's not a REC.

    In this post the OP suggests otherwise:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110696931&postcount=24

    It is possible to be an instructor and a REC at the same time.


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    #43
    katie275
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭katie275


    Thanks for the feedback all.
    Just an update and clarifying some points here
    The hole was drilled through the ceiling joist to install spot lights in the kitchen, he had intended to ‘sister’ the joint and forgot, he was extremely apologetic and is coming out tomorrow to rectify this
    He assures the cables in the closet are safe, to quote he ‘could do chin ups on those’ but he’s going to hide them / box them in
    When I challenged him about the horizontal chase he said it was because he had to chase that way after performing a metal detection test, still not convinced on that one but it’s done now
    We are going to get the work certified


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    #44
    awec
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    Did he explain why he put the light in that position in the first photo? Seems odd to go to the extra effort of having to cut the joist.


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    #45
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    katie275 wrote: »
    The hole was drilled through the ceiling joist to install spot lights in the kitchen, he had intended to ‘sister’ the joint and forgot, he was extremely apologetic and is coming out tomorrow to rectify this

    Fair enough.
    He assures the cables in the closet are safe

    I would believe him.
    When I challenged him about the horizontal chase he said it was because he had to chase that way after performing a metal detection test, still not convinced on that one but it’s done now

    As I said, I wouldn't be particularly worried in this instance.
    We are going to get the work certified

    How? Is the electrician a registered electrical contractor?


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    olestoepoke
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    Bruthal wrote: »
    Still assumptions though, that it looks like a joist. And that the op is accurately describing what they see.

    To me it looks like a flat piece of wood put in as a ground for a light. Looks about 20mm thick at most.

    But that's not my point. Point was assumptions are being used to claim someone is a cowboy.

    This post is nonsense


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    #47
    Bruthal
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    olestoepoke wrote: »
    This post is nonsense

    Possibly. I'm just not as perfect in UK English as one or 2 others here


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    #48
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Bruthal wrote: »
    Possibly. But it would in some cases be easy for someone to take pics of a half finished job and claim anything they want.

    What length width and depth is the joist in that photo?

    Not possibly it was a non-sensical post


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    gctest50
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    katie275 wrote: »
    .................

    When I challenged him about the horizontal chase he said it was because he had to chase that way after performing a metal detection test, still not convinced on that one but it’s done now
    ............

    katie275 wrote: »
    .................

    after performing a metal detection test,

    That'd be the metal telephone socket just above it ?

    :p

    Did he put "Metal Detection Test" on the invoice ?


    One way was remove to the phone socket & its wiring and run the conduit for light switch up in a straightish line vertically like a civilised human


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    #50
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Mod note:

    Thread cleaned up.
    To avoid further derailing this thread the discussion on testing and verification is continued here.


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