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Tv with free sat built in

  • 16-03-2019 2:27pm
    #1
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭


    Hi All

    Looking for a tv for the bedroom , something around the 28 -32 max in size.

    Are there TV ‘s out there with free sat built into them .

    If so is there any particular brand ye would recommend that is easy to toggle between saorview and free sat.


    Budget would be €200 to €300 mark

    Thanks
    Barr


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  • #2
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Not Freesat but Free to Air satellite

    24" - https://powercity.ie/groups/10/11/589
    28"-32" - https://powercity.ie/groups/10/12/603

    I would recommend Toshiba over Walker, even though they are both Vestel based.

    All channels, both Saorview and Satellite, in a single list. Satellite channels start at 300. Satellite channels can be organised the way you want and backed up to USB, edited on a PC and shared with other Vestel based models. Smart TV models have one button Netflix access.


  • #3
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    The Cush wrote: »
    Not Freesat but Free to Air satellite

    24" - https://powercity.ie/groups/10/11/589
    28"-32" - https://powercity.ie/groups/10/12/603

    I would recommend Toshiba over Walker, even though they are both Vestel based.

    All channels, both Saorview and Satellite, in a single list. Satellite channels start at 300. Satellite channels can be organised the way you want and backed up to USB, edited on a PC and shared with other Vestel based models. Smart TV models have one button Netflix access.


    That Toshiba looks good for €249, I'll have to look for it closer to Cork as there is no Power City in Munster.


  • #4
    St Senan
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    Barr wrote: »
    That Toshiba looks good for €249, I'll have to look for it closer to Cork as there is no Power City in Munster.

    Will be sold your nearest Euronics store.


  • #5
    St Senan
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    The Cush wrote: »
    Not Freesat but Free to Air satellite

    24" - https://powercity.ie/groups/10/11/589
    28"-32" - https://powercity.ie/groups/10/12/603

    I would recommend Toshiba over Walker, even though they are both Vestel based.

    All channels, both Saorview and Satellite, in a single list. Satellite channels start at 300. Satellite channels can be organised the way you want and backed up to USB, edited on a PC and shared with other Vestel based models. Smart TV models have one button Netflix access.

    I would also agree but the 2 year warranty that comes with Walker as opposed to the 1 year with the Toshiba is usually the difference for customers of our Shop that has a choice between the two.:)


  • #6
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Navarre wrote: »
    Will be sold your nearest Euronics store.

    Just had a look at the euronics website, surprised to see they don't mention or have a satellite tuner filter option, e.g. my TV https://euronics.ie/product/toshiba-43-4k-smart-tv-43t6863db/, while having a DVD combi filter option.


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  • #7
    ei9go
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭ei9go


    You want an LG with Freesat Built In. FTA is a head wrecker with channels changing frequency all the time

    https://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10152&catalogId=14551&langId=111&searchTerms=8585682&authToken=


  • #8
    Kev111
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭Kev111


    Yes the LG with built in channels is just brilliant.. I know damm all about set up and sat boxes.. Bought an LG few weeks ago in Harvey Norman.. 369 euro for a 43 inch.. Just plugged it in, connected it direct to dish, searched, and in a few minds she was locked and loaded.. The TV that is..


  • #9
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    ei9go wrote: »
    You want an LG with Freesat Built In. FTA is a head wrecker with channels changing frequency all the time

    https://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?storeId=10152&catalogId=14551&langId=111&searchTerms=8585682&authToken=

    Always thought FTA and freesat were the same thing .... learn something new everyday :)


    I have an old sky box upstairs that has 101 BBC, 102 BBC 2 etc. Was hoping for similar through a tv

    Doing a bit on research on LG'S now

    Would ye reckon of this one , seems good price


    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-32lk6100-32-smart-hdr-led-tv-10178870-pdt.html


  • #10
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,406 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I wouldn't be afraid of Free to Air. Frequency changes are only occasional, not all the time, and there are plenty of sources for frequency information. And if you are a typical viewer, you might only watch a few different channels.


  • #11
    johnnylancer
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭johnnylancer


    I also just bought an LG TV with Freesat but in setup I put in Ireland as country and Freesat not available only FTA
    If I change country to UK will I get Freesat
    Model is 55UK6400PLF


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  • #12
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Freesat only works in the UK??


  • #13
    johnnylancer
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭johnnylancer


    If I put in UK as country should I not get Freesat like a Humax box by putting in an UK Postcode?


  • #14
    St Senan
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    Barr wrote: »
    Always thought FTA and freesat were the same thing .... learn something new everyday :)


    I have an old sky box upstairs that has 101 BBC, 102 BBC 2 etc. Was hoping for similar through a tv

    Doing a bit on research on LG'S now

    Would ye reckon of this one , seems good price


    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-32lk6100-32-smart-hdr-led-tv-10178870-pdt.html

    If your going to go for an lg then bare in mind you will have 6-7 button presses to move from Irish to UK channels and visa versa. The channels wont be on the same list or menu. With Freesat TVs I would highly recommend the Panasonic Freesat TVs https://powercity.ie/groups/10/12/10792,603 and all you will have to do is press the TV button on the remote to switch between Irish and UK channels.

    Toshiba,Walker,Nordmende will have all the channels on the same screen but are FTA TVs and channels will change frequencies but its not to hard to re tune them and re order the channels. My personal preference between the 3 would be Toshiba.

    Panasonic and LG will have Freesat Tuners and once a British postcode is entered into either TV the channels will automatically be re ordered but again the Irish and UK channels wont be all together on the same screen and its just a Press of the TV button on Panasonic remote will move from Irish to UK and its about 6 presses on LG remote to move from Irish to UK channels although i do believe that you can put Irish and UK in favorites on the Lg. My personal preference between the two would be Panasonic.:)


  • #15
    Gerry Wicklow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    fryup wrote: »
    Freesat only works in the UK??
    johnnylancer wrote: »
    If I put in UK as country should I not get Freesat like a Humax box by putting in an UK Postcode?

    FreeSat is proprietary software that organises the channels and supplies a 7-day EPG among other functions. TVs or boxes with Freesat branded software use a UK postcode to determine which UK region you want. E.G. a Scottish postcode would give you BBC Scotland, STV etc.
    Free to air (FTA) TV's or boxes use the same satellite signals but do not have the Freesat software to help organise things. It should be noted there are a lot more free channels available than those willing to pay to be included in the FreeSat EPG. Most notably Channel4 HD and many +1 channels.


  • #16
    Ten Pin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    Switching from Terrestrial to Satellite on LG TVs can be done via Quick Access
    https://www.lg.com/uk/support/solutions/tv/webOS-3-5-quick-access
    Set RTE1 to "1" and BBC1 to "2"
    Then long press 1 for terrestrial and long press 2 for satellite.


  • #17
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    You can also set hdmi sources and players to the quick keys.
    I have rte 2 on button 1 (tv's tuner)
    Freesat box on button 2
    Chromecast on button 3
    Iplayer on button 4
    All4 on button 5


  • #18
    Irish Kev
    Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭Irish Kev


    johnnylancer wrote: »
    I also just bought an LG TV with Freesat but in setup I put in Ireland as country and Freesat not available only FTA
    If I change country to UK will I get Freesat
    Model is 55UK6400PLF




    Yes, change away


  • #19
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    The vast majority of +1 channels are on freesat.
    The bbc doesn't have +1 channels but if you have the iplayer functioning you can watch a programme from the start (right upto when the programme has finished). It is much handier than a +1 channel.

    Itv, c4, c5 and others all have +1 channels.


  • #20
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    There’s a shortcut on the LG

    Watching Satellite- guide then red button scroll up to antenna

    Watching antenna- guide then red button scroll down satellite


  • #21
    clfy39tzve8njq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    Kev111 wrote:
    Yes the LG with built in channels is just brilliant.. I know damm all about set up and sat boxes.. Bought an LG few weeks ago in Harvey Norman.. 369 euro for a 43 inch.. Just plugged it in, connected it direct to dish, searched, and in a few minds she was locked and loaded.. The TV that is..

    Did you have to buy a stand separately for the tv in Harvey Norman ?


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  • #22
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Do these tellys have a record function ??


  • #23
    ei9go
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭ei9go


    Barr wrote: »
    Always thought FTA and freesat were the same thing .... learn something new everyday :)


    I have an old sky box upstairs that has 101 BBC, 102 BBC 2 etc. Was hoping for similar through a tv

    Doing a bit on research on LG'S now

    Would ye reckon of this one , seems good price


    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-32lk6100-32-smart-hdr-led-tv-10178870-pdt.html

    That will be fine. Just select UK at setup and enter a postcode of whatever BBC/ITV region you want as your 101 channel.
    Saorview will install at channel 800 and you just edit the channels numbers into the correct order.
    Don't under any circumstances be convinced to buy a FTA.


  • #24
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    fryup wrote: »
    Do these tellys have a record function ??

    Most new TVs have a PVR option. You just need to buy an external hardrive


  • #25
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭kooga


    its unlikely you will get a freesat tuner on a 32 inch tv

    re the Toshiba mentioned earlier -it available in richersounds with a six year warranty in fact they have two models one is HD ready the other is full hd

    Noting the above on a 32 inch is full hd worth the extra £30 ? all other specs are the same

    I stand corrected the LG32LK6100 has a freesat tuner


  • #26
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Barr wrote: »
    Always thought FTA and freesat were the same thing .... learn something new everyday :)

    I have an old sky box upstairs that has 101 BBC, 102 BBC 2 etc. Was hoping for similar through a tv

    Doing a bit on research on LG'S now

    Would ye reckon of this one , seems good price

    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-32lk6100-32-smart-hdr-led-tv-10178870-pdt.html

    €249 for a 32" Smart Full HD TV with Saoview & Freesat is an excellent price. They are usually around the 400 mark. I have a 2015 LG model (LF630V)


  • #27
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭kooga


    Did anybody buy the above 32 inch LG Model 32LK6100PLB with built in freesat tuner?


  • #28
    Barr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Barr


    I bought it at €249 from Curries , set it up last weekend. Hugely impressed for the price. Picture is amazing as well.


  • #29
    xl500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭xl500


    Barr wrote: »
    I bought it at €249 from Curries , set it up last weekend. Hugely impressed for the price. Picture is amazing as well.

    So did I Happy so far tried recording to USB Drive today worked fine


  • #30
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭kooga


    Lads for those who are using the freesat tuner set to Uk and Saorview as well with the channels in the 800s / can you reorder the terrestrial channels


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  • #31
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I have an LG tv and use the tv's terrestrial tuner for saorview. You can rearrange the channels.
    You can also put channels on hotkeys, e.g. long press 1 = rte 1, 2 = rte 2, etc.

    I have now tv, iplayer and chromecast set to hotkeys.


  • #32
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    I have an LG tv and use the tv's terrestrial tuner for saorview. You can rearrange the channels.
    You can also put channels on hotkeys, e.g. long press 1 = rte 1, 2 = rte 2, etc.

    I have now tv, iplayer and chromecast set to hotkeys.

    I renumbered my terrestrial channels fine. However I constantly get told that the DTT channels have changed and a rescan should be done (can't recall the exact message) when I first go to the Irish channels, especially RTE2 it seems. If I say yes then it drops all the channels and renumbering. So I just say no. Using Maghera for DTT.

    You ever see that?


  • #33
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    MBSnr wrote: »
    I renumbered my terrestrial channels fine. However I constantly get told that the DTT channels have changed and a rescan should be done (can't recall the exact message) when I first go to the Irish channels, especially RTE2 it seems. If I say yes then it drops all the channels and renumbering. So I just say no. Using Maghera for DTT.

    You ever see that?
    I have a Panasonic Freeview recorder with the Saorview channels initially stored in the 800s which I've reordered from LCN 1 onwards. That message does appear on occasion, just the nature of the beast for UK setup receivers used with Saorview.


  • #34
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    I receive the same message. I just say no. I rarely watch saorview now so it doesn't bother me.

    The now tv app is working well for me. It seems to have updated recently. Very handy to have on the tv.

    Another separate thing - this evening I connected my chromecast directly to the tv's usb port, instead of it being plugged in separately.

    This means I don't have to get up now to plug the chromecast in and out, as I was afraid it would use too much data. Now once I power off the tv on the remote the chromecast switches off too, so it is only using data while the tv is on.


  • #35
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    MBSnr wrote: »
    I renumbered my terrestrial channels fine. However I constantly get told that the DTT channels have changed and a rescan should be done (can't recall the exact message) when I first go to the Irish channels, especially RTE2 it seems. If I say yes then it drops all the channels and renumbering. So I just say no. Using Maghera for DTT.

    You ever see that?


    Is there an option to turn off LCN update in the menu ?

    Settings > All Settings > Programmes > Programme Tuning & Settings > Programme List Update (Switch Off)

    Do it after you have renumbered.


  • #36
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Did that but info comes up saying it could affect changes in programmes. Affect recording if the epg data changes?


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  • #37
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Did that but info comes up saying it could affect changes in programmes. Affect recording if the epg data changes?


    If the channel ever moves frequency, maybe! How likely is that to happen ever on terrestrial Tiger.


  • #38
    MBSnr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭MBSnr


    STB. wrote: »
    Is there an option to turn off LCN update in the menu ?

    Settings > All Settings > Programmes > Programme Tuning & Settings > Programme List Update (Switch Off)

    Do it after you have renumbered.

    Thanks. Turned it on, but the message still came up. I can live with it, as like others I rarely watch the Irish channels on this TV anyhow.


  • #39
    FastFullBack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Barr wrote: »
    Always thought FTA and freesat were the same thing .... learn something new everyday :)


    I have an old sky box upstairs that has 101 BBC, 102 BBC 2 etc. Was hoping for similar through a tv

    Doing a bit on research on LG'S now

    Would ye reckon of this one , seems good price


    https://www.currys.ie/ieen/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-32lk6100-32-smart-hdr-led-tv-10178870-pdt.html

    Bought this TV for my Dad back at Christmas. Perfect for Saorview/Free To Air Sat. He's happy with it. Lots of smart apps also; netflix, RTE player, IPTV etc.
    €249 is a great price


  • #40
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    I wouldn't be afraid of Free to Air. Frequency changes are only occasional, not all the time, and there are plenty of sources for frequency information. And if you are a typical viewer, you might only watch a few different channels.
    FreeSat means channels changes just happen.

    But more importantly you get a full EPG instead of just Now and Next. It's handy.


    The big trick is making sure you can setup channels such that you can switch between RTE and BBC without having to press a load of extra buttons.


  • #41
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭kooga


    Bought the TV over the weekend too replace a 10 year old Philips which died on me didn't realise how small a 32 inch is now compared to before and did a quick set up - didn't have too much time to fully master the operation plus I need to get my dish realigned as the sat tuner wasn't picking up the freesat channels

    just to clarify for freesat to work - country setting must be UK

    if Country setting is UK - saorview channels and data channels all pulled in and no order

    so my initial question is how can I just have the 7 saorview channels in a simplified order - happy to have them in the 800s

    how can I easily go from saorview to sat?

    thank you

    Thanks again guys


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  • #42
    keepalive213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    kooga wrote: »

    so my initial question is how can I just have the 7 saorview channels in a simplified order - happy to have them in the 800s

    how can I easily go from saorview to sat


    I think there should be a facility in the channel edit menus to renumber the Irish channel's as you want them, 1,2,3.............. Similarly you should be able to just rearrange them together.

    For switching try holding the no1 button while on the Irish channel's and it may let you save the channel to that number. Try the same process using no2 button while you have a sat channel on.
    Afterwards a long press of either 1 or 2 may switch.
    It doesn't work all the time but worth a try.


  • #43
    decor58
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭decor58


    Do you any experience of the WALKER smart centre app. I have downloaded the app, on the plus side the channel listing mirrors my channel set up on a 24WPS19P, (Saorview and Sat), i.e. in the order I have set up, it allows me move the Sat channels on the TV to lower numbers 7,8,9, etc, and the app shows a 3 day epg. On the downside some of the features don't appear to work, the Virgin listings don't update, all the others RTE, BBC, ITV etc all do, when a programme is selected there is a record option but it does not work. The app looks like it has loads of potential but needs some fine tuning, there is a similar app for Toshiba, so I presume its a modified Vestel app.


  • #44
    Rick_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    I purchased this 4K TV from Argos the other day, fantastic picture quality, tons of apps and all the Freeview catch-up services loaded into the EPG and menu. Comes with buttons on the remote for Netflix and Amazon Prime Video and has the Now TV & Sky Store aps as well. FreeSat input as well for those that need it, you can record to USB, Saorview is supported, built in bluetooth and wifi and can be synced and controlled with Alexa and has a handy phone app for quickly showing pictures and videos from your phone on the TV. A fantastic TV and also surprisingly a very cheap price at £349.99 or €429.00. Probably cheaper to get in the north if you're close to the border as it's working our around €30 odd cheaper.


  • #45
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    PFMC84 wrote: »
    I purchased this 4K TV from Argos the other day, fantastic picture quality, tons of apps and all the Freeview catch-up services loaded into the EPG and menu. Comes with buttons on the remote for Netflix and Amazon Prime Video and has the Now TV & Sky Store aps as well. FreeSat input as well for those that need it, you can record to USB, Saorview is supported, built in bluetooth and wifi and can be synced and controlled with Alexa and has a handy phone app for quickly showing pictures and videos from your phone on the TV. A fantastic TV and also surprisingly a very cheap price at £349.99 or €429.00. Probably cheaper to get in the north if you're close to the border as it's working our around €30 odd cheaper.

    Looks good!
    Does it have an ethernet RJ45 socket or is it only connected via wifi?
    Is Kodi available in its apps?

    Thanks.


  • #46
    exaisle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭exaisle


    Have LG upgraded their software to allow direct swintching from FTA to Terrestrial and vice versa?
    With my older LG it took about 10 button pushes to go from BBC1 to RTE1...

    Toshiba is more straightforward...channel 1 and up is terrestrial, channel 300 and up is FTA. Just select the channel number ya want and that's it.


  • #47
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    so what TV makes have all channels on one list...

    Walker, Toshiba any else?


  • #48
    St Senan
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,584 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    fryup wrote: »
    so what TV makes have all channels on one list...

    Walker, Toshiba any else?

    Nordmende


  • #49
    Rick_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Rick_


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Looks good!
    Does it have an ethernet RJ45 socket or is it only connected via wifi?
    Is Kodi available in its apps?

    Thanks.

    Mine is connected by RJ45 to the router.

    I haven't checked for Kodi in their app store but considering the heat around it and what people really use it for, I don't think you'll find any TV manufacturer offering it in their app store. Best to use your phone/connected USB device to install it on to.


  • #50
    kooga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭kooga


    I used the TV a lot over the weekend and watched Glastonbury - delighted with my purchase

    thanks for the tip on the quick access
    1 = saorview
    2 = freesat
    3 = Now tv
    4 = tv Guide


  • #51
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    what make & model?


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