Neighbour's Dog Continuously Attacking Ours

DogOwner1 · 03-03-2020 10:42am #1

Hi All,

Looking for some advice on the below situation.

My girlfriend and I are in a rented house currently with our 2 year old Beagle/Jack Russell mix. He is an extremely quiet and playful dog. We have a neighbour a few doors up from us who owns a small dog also and I can only describe it as the worst and most aggressive dog I've ever seen. He chases every car that leave or enters the estate attempting to bite the tyres and sprints towards anyone whenever they leave their house, nipping at ankles and barking.

Lately whenever we leave the house and are walking to our car with the dog, the neighbours dog will run over and bite our dog, taking tufts of hair out of him. Our dog doesn't react so just looks to get away from the situation. It's not until one of us chases away the neighbours dog that he will stop. Even if the owners are standing at their front door watching all of this happen they just passively call the dogs name but make no attempt to actually control him or stop him from doing it. It has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions now and twice this week.

It makes me furious and I've been very tempted to boot the dog into the next parish on multiple occasions. The owners of the dog themselves are quite a rough family. The one thing holding us back from calling the dog warden is the fear that they will do something to our dog while we are out of the house (we leave him in the garden a few days a week while we are at work). I don't think there is any talking to them if they're so ignorant to continuously watch it happening and do nothing about it.

Would anyone have advice on a way to proceed or have experience with a similar situation? Cheers.

John Hutton · 03-03-2020 10:44am

DogOwner1 wrote: »

Hi All,

Looking for some advice on the below situation.

My girlfriend and I are in a rented house currently with our 2 year old Beagle/Jack Russell mix. He is an extremely quiet and playful dog. We have a neighbour a few doors up from us who owns a small dog also and I can only describe it as the worst and most aggressive dog I've ever seen. He chases every car that leave or enters the estate attempting to bite the tyres and sprints towards anyone whenever they leave their house, nipping at ankles and barking.

Lately whenever we leave the house and are walking to our car with the dog, the neighbours dog will run over and bite our dog, taking tufts of hair out of him. Our dog doesn't react so just looks to get away from the situation. It's not until one of us chases away the neighbours dog that he will stop. Even if the owners are standing at their front door watching all of this happen they just passively call the dogs name but make no attempt to actually control him or stop him from doing it. It has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions now and twice this week.

It makes me furious and I've been very tempted to boot the dog into the next parish on multiple occasions. The owners of the dog themselves are quite a rough family with some having been in prison recently for various offenses. The one thing holding us back from calling the dog warden is the fear that they will do something to our dog while we are out of the house (we leave him in the garden a few days a week while we are at work). I don't think there is any talking to them if they're so ignorant to continuously watch it happening and do nothing about it.

Would anyone have advice on a way to proceed or have experience with a similar situation? Cheers.

OP how would they know you called the warden?

Cupatae · 03-03-2020 10:48am

DogOwner1 wrote: »

Hi All,

Looking for some advice on the below situation.

My girlfriend and I are in a rented house currently with our 2 year old Beagle/Jack Russell mix. He is an extremely quiet and playful dog. We have a neighbour a few doors up from us who owns a small dog also and I can only describe it as the worst and most aggressive dog I've ever seen. He chases every car that leave or enters the estate attempting to bite the tyres and sprints towards anyone whenever they leave their house, nipping at ankles and barking.

Lately whenever we leave the house and are walking to our car with the dog, the neighbours dog will run over and bite our dog, taking tufts of hair out of him. Our dog doesn't react so just looks to get away from the situation. It's not until one of us chases away the neighbours dog that he will stop. Even if the owners are standing at their front door watching all of this happen they just passively call the dogs name but make no attempt to actually control him or stop him from doing it. It has happened on at least 5 or 6 occasions now and twice this week.

It makes me furious and I've been very tempted to boot the dog into the next parish on multiple occasions. The owners of the dog themselves are quite a rough family with some having been in prison recently for various offenses. The one thing holding us back from calling the dog warden is the fear that they will do something to our dog while we are out of the house (we leave him in the garden a few days a week while we are at work). I don't think there is any talking to them if they're so ignorant to continuously watch it happening and do nothing about it.

Would anyone have advice on a way to proceed or have experience with a similar situation? Cheers.

It wouldn't be the dog I'd take issue with at all it would be the owner if I was you I'd go in and say it to them to do something about the dog or you will , you can't have dogs just going around attacking people. I feel bad for the dog having such irresponsible owners cause ultimately the dog will be the one paying the price.

Make the point clear if it keeps happening you LL be calling the dog warden and if your dog needs the vet, they LL be getting the bill, it's nonsense to have be doing that you d think they have Abit of cop on.

Roadtoad · 03-03-2020 10:50am

Jaws:
You're going to need a bigger boat.

DogOwner1 · 03-03-2020 10:54am

John Hutton wrote: »

OP how would they know you called the warden?

We're the ones who probably have the most run in's with them and the dog so I'd assume they'll put it together. The dog is much more aggressive towards other dogs than people. He is scared when a person confronts him but will go at other dogs without issue.

Roadtoad · 03-03-2020 10:55am

Cupatae wrote: »

......Make the point clear if it keeps happening you LL be calling the dog warden and if your dog needs the vet, they LL be getting the bill, it's nonsense to have be doing that you d think they have Abit of cop on.

That does LL mean? I'm imagining you are suggesting that in some way the OPs landlord should be involved. Bizarre attitude if so.

LeBash · 03-03-2020 10:56am

Bring a ball and a hurl as if you are going out to smack the ball. If the dog comes over aggressively, give him a warning with the hurl high and a smack if needs be.

If the neighbours are there, ask them to keep it inside so you dont have to do that.

Fleetwoodmac · 03-03-2020 10:57am

This sounds horrendous. Has he ever snapped at a child? We have a similar situation with neighbours dogs, i have called the warden and he has spoken to them but every now and then dogs still get out. Luckily our neighbours are just lazy and apathetic as opposed to worrying they may hurt the dogs.
I think if you are not willing to call warden and the family can't be reasoned with, then just carry your dog to the car. I'd also put a camera on your back garden... relatively cheap and can be monitored via your phone.
Very upsetting for you and of course your dog.

Cupatae · 03-03-2020 11:02am

Roadtoad wrote: »

That does LL mean? I'm imagining you are suggesting that in some way the OPs landlord should be involved. Bizarre attitude if so.

im confused. where you seeing anything about a landlord?

its meant to be "you'll"

Fleetwoodmac · 03-03-2020 11:03am

LeBash wrote: »

Bring a ball and a hurl as if you are going out to smack the ball. If the dog comes over aggressively, give him a warning with the hurl high and a smack if needs be.

If the neighbours are there, ask them to keep it inside so you dont have to do that.

This dogs behaviour sounds like he is used to the odd kick, sadly. If family members have been in prison, I wouldn't take this approach. Some people cant be reasoned with. Put as much preventatives in place, lift your own dog into/out of car, I wouldn't interact. Some people are waiting for confrontation and a reason to attack... the dog prob didn't lick it off the footpath iykwim

DBB · 03-03-2020 11:03am

Call the warden OP. If you fill them in on the situation, they'll often do a swoop on the area, checking for dog licences in all houses with dogs, so that it's a routine inspection, rather than targeting anyone in particular. If the neighbour's dog is out and about, they can receive a fixed penalty notice for that, and a ticking off by the warden.
Just note, that if you are going to go this route, make sure your own dog's license is up to date.

DogOwner1 · 03-03-2020 1:28pm

Thanks for all of the advice. We're definitely looking in to getting a camera for the garden to keep an eye on our dog and will contact the warden once we have a plan.

Esel · 04-03-2020 3:07am

Cupatae wrote: »

It wouldn't be the dog I'd take issue with at all it would be the owner if I was you I'd go in and say it to them to do something about the dog or you will , you can't have dogs just going around attacking people. I feel bad for the dog having such irresponsible owners cause ultimately the dog will be the one paying the price.

Make the point clear if it keeps happening you LL be calling the dog warden and if your dog needs the vet, they LL be getting the bill, it's nonsense to have be doing that you d think they have Abit of cop on.

Did you miss this part of the OP?

"The owners of the dog themselves are quite a rough family with some having been in prison recently for various offenses. The one thing holding us back from calling the dog warden is the fear that they will do something to our dog while we are out of the house (we leave him in the garden a few days a week while we are at work). I don't think there is any talking to them if they're so ignorant to continuously watch it happening and do nothing about it."

Neighbours like that would have no problem making the OP's life hell, nevermind what they might do to their dog.

OP Dog Warden is good advice. Be sure to inform them about your concerns re the neighbours' possible reaction.

Cupatae · 04-03-2020 4:12pm

Esel wrote: »

Did you miss this part of the OP?

"The owners of the dog themselves are quite a rough family with some having been in prison recently for various offenses. The one thing holding us back from calling the dog warden is the fear that they will do something to our dog while we are out of the house (we leave him in the garden a few days a week while we are at work). I don't think there is any talking to them if they're so ignorant to continuously watch it happening and do nothing about it."

Neighbours like that would have no problem making the OP's life hell, nevermind what they might do to their dog.

OP Dog Warden is good advice. Be sure to inform them about your concerns re the neighbours' possible reaction.

More than likely a death sentence for there dog then, wouldnt take a genius to figure out who called the dog warden,but fair point some people may be more timid.. personally id confront the person about it anyway but to each there own.

tk123 · 04-03-2020 7:37pm

Cupatae wrote: »

More than likely a death sentence for there dog then

Why would it be a death sentence?! More like a slapped wrist and fine if they don’t have a license

JustAThought · 05-03-2020 10:26am

tk123 wrote: »

Why would it be a death sentence?! More like a slapped wrist and fine if they don’t have a license

you clearly have never dealt with vermin neighbours. OP I’d definately +1 for the camera but urge caution on the warden - you will never rest easy if your dog is left alone and you have done something to your neighbours dog. You will be signing a death warrent for your pet. Dog wardent don’t just drop out - and to make a complaint they will be entitled to a freedom of information on the file which will expose you and your pet. Maybe a word with the gaurds - they could find a way to be driving past and see it - and could then address no chip/ not under control / hazard to drivers which might be a better way to tackle it.

DBB · 05-03-2020 11:18am

JustAThought wrote: »

Dog wardent don’t just drop out

Yes they do, and they will, particularly if they're filled in on the situation.

and to make a complaint they will be entitled to a freedom of information on the file

This is absolutely, 100% untrue. Law enforcement simply could not work if this was the case, and the identity of complainants is simply not legally available to anybody filing a FoI request.

Graces7 · 08-03-2020 1:37pm

OP; please do not leave your dog in the garden when you are out with these folk and dog nearby.

Cupatae · 08-03-2020 2:49pm

tk123 wrote: »

Why would it be a death sentence?! More like a slapped wrist and fine if they don’t have a license

Did you misread what i wrote ? what happens to dogs that bite or show aggression ? factor in the owners clearly dont give a f, the dog will likely be left to the pound.

Cupatae · 08-03-2020 2:53pm

DBB wrote: »

Yes they do, and they will, particularly if they're filled in on the situation.

This is absolutely, 100% untrue. Law enforcement simply could not work if this was the case, and the identity of complainants is simply not legally available to anybody filing a FoI request.

dog wardens dont "just drop out" unless you're very gullible, i think what he/she was hinting at is it will be clear someone has called the dog warden. And it will be painfully obvious who called em, and if the neighbors are as bad as being portrayed in this tread then they wont exactly be looking for reasonable proof

tk123 · 08-03-2020 7:56pm

Cupatae wrote: »

dog wardens dont "just drop out" unless you're very gullible, i think what he/she was hinting at is it will be clear someone has called the dog warden. And it will be painfully obvious who called em, and if the neighbors are as bad as being portrayed in this tread then they wont exactly be looking for reasonable proof

I think you’re scaremongering a bit and maybe a bit gullible yourself believing every urban legend about wardens and pounds?

The warden has called to every house in my area on more than one occasion and also patrols the park from time to time. Whether they had a complaint about somebody I don’t know, everyone was asked to show their licences and job done. As for the pound - look it’s not the OPs problem if that happens - which it won’t - they’ll be given a chance to comply with the law. I’d be delighted if my neighbours barking dog was taken by the warden and left in the pound for a rescue to take and re-home to somebody who might give a crap about it.

08-03-2020 8:21pm

Cupatae wrote: »

Did you misread what i wrote ? what happens to dogs that bite or show aggression ? factor in the owners clearly dont give a f, the dog will likely be left to the pound.

Going to the pound is not an automatic pts situation.

If the dog has bitten someone then yes it's possible that they would be pts but only if surrendered by the owner.

Dog wardens cannot pts a dog unless it's surrendered or found straying and not reclaimed. Again only having bitten someone while straying or showing aggression to a level that is not based on fear while doing the five days as per rhe topic of the thread.

When not surrendered, they have to go to court and argue for a destruction order with evidence of the need and complaints who are on record stating that the dog has bitten them. The judge makes this decision and only then, and the owner has the right to appeal.

OP a dog warden will not tell the owner who made the complaint, they aren't legally required to do so.

DBB · 08-03-2020 8:43pm

Cupatae wrote: »

dog wardens dont "just drop out" unless you're very gullible, i think what he/she was hinting at is it will be clear someone has called the dog warden. And it will be painfully obvious who called em, and if the neighbors are as bad as being portrayed in this tread then they wont exactly be looking for reasonable proof

Hang on... If you want to make a point that's contrary to mine or anyone else's, no need to be so bombastic nor to throw insinuations in about other posters' characters.
I'm not gullible, no. I work in the industry and through that, have close links with wardens in a number of counties. Yes, they do indeed "just drop out" and check up on all dog owners in the area, both routinely, but also to mask the fact that they've had a complaint about a particular person. I've been checked myself in exactly this situation too.

10fathoms · 09-03-2020 12:40am

<snip>

Mod note: Nope.

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 3:15pm

tk123 wrote: »

I think you’re scaremongering a bit and maybe a bit gullible yourself believing every urban legend about wardens and pounds?

The warden has called to every house in my area on more than one occasion and also patrols the park from time to time. Whether they had a complaint about somebody I don’t know, everyone was asked to show their licences and job done. As for the pound - look it’s not the OPs problem if that happens - which it won’t - they’ll be given a chance to comply with the law. I’d be delighted if my neighbours barking dog was taken by the warden and left in the pound for a rescue to take and re-home to somebody who might give a crap about it.

"The warden has called to every house in my area on more than one occasion and also patrols the park from time to time."

I have never had a dog warden ever call, and i live in a fairly big town, most people i know have never talked to a dog warden let alone have em call round asking for a license, interesting that your dog warden calls to everyone, quite some ground to cover...

Only one person i know had the dog warden call to them and thats cause there dog attacked another smaller dog after he got out of there yard and was put down the next day. You may tell them its only an urban legend..

im going by what ive seen happen other peoples dogs, dog biting people = dog put down. end of.

What is the op calling the dog warden for? the dog biting.

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 3:22pm

DBB wrote: »

Hang on... If you want to make a point that's contrary to mine or anyone else's, no need to be so bombastic nor to throw insinuations in about other posters' characters.
I'm not gullible, no. I work in the industry and through that, have close links with wardens in a number of counties. Yes, they do indeed "just drop out" and check up on all dog owners in the area, both routinely, but also to mask the fact that they've had a complaint about a particular person. I've been checked myself in exactly this situation too.

Sorry i disagree i have had dogs the last 30 years and never once even had a conversation with a dog warden, let alone seen em go door to door, id be interested to see where they get the time for this..

But lets just say, having experience dealing with less than pleasant neighbors i know for a fact it wont take much to figure out how it came about happening people arent stupid,

Ive a fair idea of what work you do in the industry by your posting style alone so we'll just agree to disagree i dont want to get dragged into a pitched battle, and i wasnt trying to be insulting by saying gullible.

DBB · 10-03-2020 3:27pm

Cupatae wrote: »

I have never had a dog warden ever call, and i live in a fairly big town, most people i know have never talked to a dog warden let alone have em call round asking for a license, interesting that your dog warden calls to everyone, quite some ground to cover...

I've had the warden do several routine calls in the large village I lived in.
I've had the warden do routine calls when I lived in Dublin.
The warden has also called to the rural area I'm in now.
So. Where does your anecdotal evidence leave my anecdotal evidence?

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 3:35pm

DBB wrote: »

I've had the warden do several routine calls in the large village I lived in.
I've had the warden do routine calls when I lived in Dublin.
The warden has also called to the rural area I'm in now.
So. Where does your anecdotal evidence leave my anecdotal evidence?

I can only go on my own experience and the people i know, ive no reason to lie.. but outside of that, it'd take quite abit of man power, people can draw there own conclusions i guess, i dont really care either way tbh

DBB · 10-03-2020 3:44pm

Cupatae wrote: »

I can only go on my own experience and the people i know, ive no reason to lie.. but outside of that, it'd take quite abit of man power, people can draw there own conclusions i guess, i dont really care either way tbh

I'm not suggesting you're lying. Not at all.
What I am saying is that your experience is the opposite of mine. Yet you took on to call me gullible, based on your experience alone, without considering that perhaps your experience does not reflect the situation across the country.
It's a major part of the role of the dog wardens to check licences. It's very much in the interests of the local authorities that the wardens invest time in enforcing the licensing laws because it's a major chunk of the income required to keep the pound facilities up and running.
No doubt, some county wardens are more active than others, but it is not correct to assume that your experience is any more factual than anyone else's. That's the problem with anecdotal evidence.

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 3:50pm

DBB wrote: »

I'm not suggesting you're lying. Not at all.
What I am saying is that your experience is the opposite of mine. Yet you took on to call me gullible, based on your experience alone, without considering that perhaps your experience does not reflect the situation across the country.
It's a major part of the role of the dog wardens to check licences. It's very much in the interests of the local authorities that the wardens invest time in enforcing the licensing laws because it's a major chunk of the income required to keep the pound facilities up and running.
No doubt, some county wardens are more active than others, but it is not correct to assume that your experience is any more factual than anyone else's. That's the problem with anecdotal evidence.

Well its factual to me, as its my experience..if someone asked me do dog wardens call around id say 100% not as ive never had one call.

If someone had an issue with my dog and it had bit someone and the dog warden "dropped" out and took my dog, id consider myself fair gullible if i believed that was by chance is what im saying, the people the op is talking about could give a rats ass about anecdotal evidence or anything of the sort they ll go straight to one conclusion.

This of course is my opinion, make of it what you will.

Graces7 · 10-03-2020 6:31pm

Cupatae wrote: »

Well its factual to me, as its my experience..if someone asked me do dog wardens call around id say 100% not as ive never had one call.

If someone had an issue with my dog and it had bit someone and the dog warden "dropped" out and took my dog, id consider myself fair gullible if i believed that was by chance is what im saying, the people the op is talking about could give a rats ass about anecdotal evidence or anything of the sort they ll go straight to one conclusion.

This of course is my opinion, make of it what you will.

While I understand what your point is, what do you suggest the OP does about an intolerable situation ?

Because it is. And potentially dangerous. If the neighbours act up ? Then the Gardaí can be involved.

10-03-2020 6:43pm

Cupatae wrote: »

Well its factual to me, as its my experience..if someone asked me do dog wardens call around id say 100% not as ive never had one call.

If someone had an issue with my dog and it had bit someone and the dog warden "dropped" out and took my dog, id consider myself fair gullible if i believed that was by chance is what im saying, the people the op is talking about could give a rats ass about anecdotal evidence or anything of the sort they ll go straight to one conclusion.

This of course is my opinion, make of it what you will.

Again the warden cannot take your dog even if it has bitten someone unless you surrender your dog to them.

They can take a dog found roaming, but again even if it has bitten someone, it is kept for five days to allow the owner come reclaim the dog on production of the dog licence and household bills etc.

In terms of licence checking in my experience it's done regularly, could vary from county to county as not all have wardens employed directly by the council or full time wardens.

But I know one council where the wardens are directly employed by the council full time, are looking at developing an app to confirm if the property has a dog licence(es) associated with it or not, for the wardens to use on their checks.

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 11:22pm

DubInMeath wrote: »

Again the warden cannot take your dog even if it has bitten someone unless you surrender your dog to them.

They can take a dog found roaming, but again even if it has bitten someone, it is kept for five days to allow the owner come reclaim the dog on production of the dog licence and household bills etc.

In terms of licence checking in my experience it's done regularly, could vary from county to county as not all have wardens employed directly by the council or full time wardens.

But I know one council where the wardens are directly employed by the council full time, are looking at developing an app to confirm if the property has a dog licence(es) associated with it or not, for the wardens to use on their checks.

Wardens can 100% take ur dog if it's attacking people on the street like the op posted and it will be put down I think it's 5 days , not to mention people can sue for the likes of that .

I can tell you for sure in atlwaet 2 counties in the south in 30 years I've never been asked for a license nor even had a dog warden call to the door

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 11:27pm

Graces7 wrote: »

While I understand what your point is, what do you suggest the OP does about an intolerable situation ?

Because it is. And potentially dangerous. If the neighbours act up ? Then the Gardaí can be involved.

As I see it they have 3 options ,

Speak to the neighbors and explain the issue

Avoid the area take a different route, more annoying but less annoying than having conflict with neighbors that are bad

Follow the rules book to the letter and get the correct authorities involved..( also not the best for long term relations with your neighbor) personally I'd avoid going this route unless I absolutely had to, I just find it breeds resentment.

But everyone has there own way of dealing with stuff.

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 11:27pm

Graces7 wrote: »

While I understand what your point is, what do you suggest the OP does about an intolerable situation ?

Because it is. And potentially dangerous. If the neighbours act up ? Then the Gardaí can be involved.

As I see it they have 3 options ,

Speak to the neighbors and explain the issue

Avoid the area take a different route, more annoying but less annoying than having conflict with neighbors that are bad

Follow the rules book to the letter and get the correct authorities involved..( also not the best for long term relations with your neighbor) personally I'd avoid going this route unless I absolutely had to, I just find it breeds resentment.

But everyone has there own way of dealing with stuff.

11-03-2020 12:53am

Cupatae wrote: »

Wardens can 100% take ur dog if it's attacking people on the street like the op posted and it will be put down I think it's 5 days , not to mention people can sue for the likes of that .

I can tell you for sure in atlwaet 2 counties in the south in 30 years I've never been asked for a license nor even had a dog warden call to the door

On the street yes as I have said twice, but that's because they pick up dogs roaming as strays as part of their daily duties.

They cannot come to your house after the fact and take your dog unless you surrendered your dog to them, especially as they most likely will not have witnessed the dog biting someone and are going off a complaint from a member of the public ( i.e. an alleged offence).

If in the unlikely event that the warden did see the dog biting someone and the dog managed to get themselves back to their house, the warden can then seize the dog but only because it was straying and not under effective control.

Automatically put down after five days, again, no not unless the owner has surrendered the dog. If they have not, the owner can still go to the pound and take it home on production of the dogs licence and proof of address (household bills).

In order for a dog to be put down, where the owner has reclaimed their dog, a destruction order must be obtained from a judge via a case brought to court with complaints willing to state that the dog had bitten them.

Even if the judge agrees to the destruction order, the owner has the right to appeal the decision.

In relation to people suing, if the warden had the dog down without the owner surrendering it or obtaining a destruction order, the owner would have grounds to sue the country council. People can of course sue the owner of a dog that bites them, that's nothing to do with the country council or the dog warden.

As for your experience, I'd be onto your country council to complain/ask why this is the case.

Cupatae · 11-03-2020 11:57am

DubInMeath wrote: »

On the street yes as I have said twice, but that's because they pick up dogs roaming as strays as part of their daily duties.

They cannot come to your house after the fact and take your dog unless you surrendered your dog to them, especially as they most likely will not have witnessed the dog biting someone and are going off a complaint from a member of the public ( i.e. an alleged offence).

If in the unlikely event that the warden did see the dog biting someone and the dog managed to get themselves back to their house, the warden can then seize the dog but only because it was straying and not under effective control.

Automatically put down after five days, again, no not unless the owner has surrendered the dog. If they have not, the owner can still go to the pound and take it home on production of the dogs licence and proof of address (household bills).

In order for a dog to be put down, where the owner has reclaimed their dog, a destruction order must be obtained from a judge via a case brought to court with complaints willing to state that the dog had bitten them.

Even if the judge agrees to the destruction order, the owner has the right to appeal the decision.

In relation to people suing, if the warden had the dog down without the owner surrendering it or obtaining a destruction order, the owner would have grounds to sue the country council. People can of course sue the owner of a dog that bites them, that's nothing to do with the country council or the dog warden.

As for your experience, I'd be onto your country council to complain/ask why this is the case.

Ok great thats good to know.

Graces7 · 11-03-2020 12:58pm

Cupatae wrote: »

As I see it they have 3 options ,

Speak to the neighbors and explain the issue

Avoid the area take a different route, more annoying but less annoying than having conflict with neighbors that are bad

Follow the rules book to the letter and get the correct authorities involved..( also not the best for long term relations with your neighbor) personally I'd avoid going this route unless I absolutely had to, I just find it breeds resentment.

But everyone has there own way of dealing with stuff.

Evasion solves nothing! It really doesn't. I have had this kind of issue and better to get resented than risk damage. A dog that regularly attacks another dog is a danger and the owners need to be made to see that.

Cupatae · 11-03-2020 4:27pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Evasion solves nothing! It really doesn't. I have had this kind of issue and better to get resented than risk damage. A dog that regularly attacks another dog is a danger and the owners need to be made to see that.

im just saying id exhaust other avenues, before id go the legal route i just think it leads to a toxic tit for tat with neighbors that can be a headache. Id sooner go up and have a chat with someone and see if they d atleast make an effort to do something, and if they were unreasonable then id go the other route. I ve found in most cases anytime ive had a problem with something and ive said it upfront to the person they have made the effort and appreciate the fact you spoke to them first.

Id def not go the cloak and dagger route and hope nobody figures it out lol you wouldnt want to be sherlock holmes in this case

Graces7 · 14-03-2020 7:11am

Any progress OP? Hope so..

kathleen37 · 14-03-2020 1:09pm

How about distracting it (I know it's not your dog but you could even try a bit of training with it, as you're having to live with it) with cocktail sausages?

I too would be horrified if it was attacking my dog, but I'd be lifting my dog to the car so the dog couldn't get to it. If you don't want to call the dog warden (and I feel for the dog in this situation, having owners that obviously don't care for it, or care what it does) then you're going to need to do something. Kindness and food may be the key.

Also, I'd be worried leaving my dog outside all day while I was working

14-03-2020 8:55pm

kathleen37 wrote: »

How about distracting it (I know it's not your dog but you could even try a bit of training with it, as you're having to live with it) with cocktail sausages?

I too would be horrified if it was attacking my dog, but I'd be lifting my dog to the car so the dog couldn't get to it. If you don't want to call the dog warden (and I feel for the dog in this situation, having owners that obviously don't care for it, or care what it does) then you're going to need to do something. Kindness and food may be the key.

Also, I'd be worried leaving my dog outside all day while I was working

If a dog is really in attack mode your not going to distract it.

A dog whose owner is not that bothered about their dog hasn't raised a dog that will pay attention to a stranger.

Nijmegen · 23-03-2020 3:45pm

To be honest OPs issue here is the neighbors, not the dog or the dog warden. I've lived in beside rough people before and when they want to, they can and they will make your life hell and the authorities will at very best come round and tell them off every now and again only for them to start telling stories about you. I remember one sunny day having the alcoholic next door tossing stuff into the garden, telling her to get lost (not particularly forcefully!), her son and his mate trying to kick the front door door in, calling the Gardai and ending up in my own living room being told that she was making X and Y complaints about us and we should just avoid them at all costs.

This was one of a number of times the Gardai and ambulance were out to the same house for our benefit and that of other people living there. One day a youngfella came out of the house with blood pouring out of him and her shouting "It was an accident! It was only an accident!"

My girlfriend had cats at the time and one of them got sick randomly and died and she strongly suspected that they were throwing poison over the back wall.

To be honest the best move when you live beside people like this is to move. I'm sorry folks, but the white knight of the dog warden and the Gardai aren't going to save you.

Cupatae · 24-03-2020 3:07pm

Nijmegen wrote: »

To be honest OPs issue here is the neighbors, not the dog or the dog warden. I've lived in beside rough people before and when they want to, they can and they will make your life hell and the authorities will at very best come round and tell them off every now and again only for them to start telling stories about you. I remember one sunny day having the alcoholic next door tossing stuff into the garden, telling her to get lost (not particularly forcefully!), her son and his mate trying to kick the front door door in, calling the Gardai and ending up in my own living room being told that she was making X and Y complaints about us and we should just avoid them at all costs.

This was one of a number of times the Gardai and ambulance were out to the same house for our benefit and that of other people living there. One day a youngfella came out of the house with blood pouring out of him and her shouting "It was an accident! It was only an accident!"

My girlfriend had cats at the time and one of them got sick randomly and died and she strongly suspected that they were throwing poison over the back wall.

To be honest the best move when you live beside people like this is to move. I'm sorry folks, but the white knight of the dog warden and the Gardai aren't going to save you.

Couldnt agree more, but that sort of real world talk seems to go down like a lead balloon around here. The follow the letter of the law approach and go A to B and hey presto! white knight warden saves the day and alls well in the world is the logic here it seems.

DBB · 24-03-2020 6:57pm

Cupatae wrote: »

Couldnt agree more, but that sort of real world talk seems to go down like a lead balloon around here. The follow the letter of the law approach and go A to B and hey presto! white knight warden saves the day and alls well in the world is the logic here it seems.

Cupatae,
Despite your personal views, there are people who post here that actually deal with situations just like the op's as part of their work. Just because your personal experience doesn't match the reality of the larger picture, you think it's okay to condescend and belittle the opinions of others in this thread, because they don't agree with you?
Well no, it's not okay for you to behave in such a way. It is disrespectful, and as per the charter, posters may not be disrespectful towards one another in this forum. You can debate with others all day long, but you certainly may not belittle the users of this forum.
Do not post in this thread again Cupatae, and consider your card marked when posting in this forum again.
Do not reply to this post on thread.
Thanks,
DBB

Neighbour's Dog Continuously Attacking Ours

Comments