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Dunmore road road closures

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    From newtown to topaz its a bumpy ride, irish water have left the road in a right state for the sake of a few dozen water metres


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    To me it looks like a major repair on the main pipes rather than just meters. I past there late at night last week, thankfully there were no restrictions after 12 am.

    Hope it's not effecting business or there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    From newtown to topaz its a bumpy ride, irish water have left the road in a right state for the sake of a few dozen water metres
    They are replacing the water main not meters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    From newtown to topaz its a bumpy ride, irish water have left the road in a right state for the sake of a few dozen water metres

    As others have said, it's not water meters that they're doing, but you are right - the road is in a desperate state. Anyone know whether this is just being left this way until the work is complete and tested? They might have to dig it up again in places so it makes sense to leave resurfacing until the very end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    I dont know but in one of the free newspapers last week it said there were no plans to resurface John's hill etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Maybe the government could divert some of Irish Water revenue to Motor Tax to help repair the road........oh wait.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    ^^^^ Very good!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Shane07 wrote: »
    If this is true this is crazy! Why would they change it! It makes no sense they should be making extra lanes not less,wasting more money as usual!

    A la The Quay..........


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    They are replacing the water main not meters.

    They are making provision for meters in some areas while this is going on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    7upfree wrote: »
    They are making provision for meters in some areas while this is going on.

    good stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭Dum_Dum


    Are there plans to resurface the road to a civilised standard and make good the damage - or is everyone happy with their sloppy work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    Dum_Dum wrote: »
    Are there plans to resurface the road to a civilised standard and make good the damage - or is everyone happy with their sloppy work?

    that's upto the council, resurfacing etc nothing to do with IW, so whenever they get around to it

    Shin


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Shane07


    The road is in a shocking condition and is the main ambulance route to the hospital,seriously like only in Ireland!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭jayboi


    Probably waiting for the schools to go back before they resurface.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    They must be waiting until all work has been compleated before they resurface. Its like a country road out there.

    The cycle lanes look like a DLS uniform, all grey and maroon stripes!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    Some state of a road, iw's Digging campaign on behalf of the IMF didn't include making good the mess left behind
    This is IMF strategy at its finest...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    Some state of a road, iw's Digging campaign on behalf of the IMF didn't include making good the mess left behind
    This is IMF strategy at its finest...

    eu/imf/ecb=disaster!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    Some state of a road, iw's Digging campaign on behalf of the IMF didn't include making good the mess left behind
    This is IMF strategy at its finest...

    What a ridiculous juvenile statement


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    What a ridiculous juvenile statement

    Yes and no. Given the figures released for IW this week (and the paltry level of "investment" since its inception, as opposed to what it has cost) it can be viewed as little else.

    People need to acknowledge this for what it is - a repayment of a debt that is not Ireland's. And this is to the forefront. Water doesn't even enter into it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    7upfree wrote: »

    People need to acknowledge this for what it is - a repayment of a debt that is not Ireland's. And this is to the forefront. Water doesn't even enter into it.

    That isn't it at all.

    It's about restructuring how the govt brings in money so that we're not solely reliant people spending money like we were during the boom.

    If you're to be believe how Water is currently payed for, though VAT and Motor Tax, once people stop spending and or/driving then there's no money coming in to pay for it.

    This has nothing to do with paying off banking debt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    oh id say this woman might clear things up a bit!!!!

    http://ellenbrown.com/
    http://www.webofdebt.com/media/
    http://itsourmoney.podbean.com/

    enjoy


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    If you are living in Happy cuckoo land alls grand imf and troica dont exist neither does corruption, state dirty secrets or turning your water tap to a trickle,
    no need to explain what iw is really all about then...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    If you are living in Happy cuckoo land alls grand imf and troica dont exist neither does corruption, state dirty secrets or turning your water tap to a trickle,
    no need to explain what iw is really all about then...

    Just because you keep saying it does not make it true. Yes there is corruption in the world, yes some people have hidden agendas,yes we all have things we would rather remain private, but that does not mean there is a hidden World order controlling us like puppets, it just means you are paranoid and deluded.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    oh id say this woman might clear things up a bit!!!!

    http://ellenbrown.com/
    http://www.webofdebt.com/media/
    http://itsourmoney.podbean.com/

    enjoy

    That's all about the Greek problem, you know the guys who have had the ****ty income from their people into their countries balance sheet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    That's all about the Greek problem, you know the guys who have had the ****ty income from their people into their countries balance sheet.

    look again and spend some time reading, listening and watching ellen browns work. impressive stuff and spot on in my eyes, and shes not just on about greece but the underlying critical problems on our global financial problems. theres a lot in it but its worth checking out. id highly recommend this podcast regarding global water politics etc:

    http://itsourmoney.podbean.com/e/world-water-wars-032515/

    enjoy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    reni10 wrote: »
    The traffic this morning was the worst I have ever seen!

    It stretched from the Outer Ring road near the Halting site right up to the Ardkeen hospital and the whole way in the Dunmore Road!

    Now they want to make the Road from the Outer Ring Road Roundabout at Farronshoneen to the Tesco Roundabout 1 lane as well as a trial!

    So they are starting this trial "continental style roundabout" tomorrow
    A trial layout will be installed on the roundabout at Tesco Ardkeen on the Outer Ring Road on Fri Nov 13th.
    This trial is to test the impact on traffic of the introduction of a continential style roundabout at this location.
    Contintental Style Roundabouts have a single lane entering from each approach, and the approaches are at right angles. These changes encourage slower vehicle speeds, so do make it easier for cars to enter the roundabout, due to the smaller gap in traffic needed at low speeds.
    Continental style roundabouts are also safer for people who walk and cycle.
    The trial will be removed on Saturday November 28th 2015


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    So they are starting this trial "continental style roundabout" tomorrow

    2 weeks won't hurt anyone and might improve things!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭BBM77


    Continental style roundabouts are also safer for people who walk and cycle.

    As someone who cycles around 160km a week making lanes on roundabouts narrower does not make them safer for cyclist. I often wonder if the people who come up with these ideas ever actual cycled around an urban area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Shane07


    I do not understand their obsession with narrowing busy roads and junctions...the junction was fine no need to be messing around with it!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Will certainly make it interesting for ambulances coming from the outer ring road.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    2 weeks won't hurt anyone and might improve things!

    I was out there earlier and i dont know how its an improvement the traffic was backed up in every direction and that was early enough before the usual peak traffic times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Daffodil.d


    This new system is an absolute joke.I live on the Dunmore road and I will carefully taking other routes while this trial is going on. hopefully they're already seeing that this doesn't work. it was so bad the traffic was backed up everywhere.I reckon they should consider actually asking the ambulance drivers what they think of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    The council are saying that this trial is at the request of the National Transport Authority and will be removed if is causing delays,seriously why put it at this roundabout when they know its going to cause more delays!
    Waterford City and County Council say changes to the traffic layout at the roundabout at Tesco, Ardkeen was at the request of the National Transport Authority. The council were asked to participate in a trial of what are known as continental style roundabouts and the new layout was installed today.These have a single lane entering from each approach, at right angles which encourage slower speeds making it easier for cars to enter the roundabout.The trial period ends on Saturday November 28th but the council says it will be monitored daily and will be removed if it causes unacceptable delays.They say it will take a few days for a settled pattern to develop and they would welcome feedback from drivers on its facebook or twitter accounts.
    http://www.wlrfm.com/news-single.php?cat=1&id=51424


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    2 weeks won't hurt anyone and might improve things!
    Do you still think the same after the utter chaos today? Twenty minutes to get from outside Homebase to the exit to Tesco, and fifteen minutes from there to the hospital roundabout.

    Tescos are going to lose out big time over the next couple of weeks. I hope they sue the corpo for every cent they've got.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    The council are saying that this trial is at the request of the National Transport Authority and will be removed if is causing delays,seriously why put it at this roundabout when they know its going to cause more delays!


    http://www.wlrfm.com/news-single.php?cat=1&id=51424

    How could anyone with grey matter between the ears not work out that when you reduce two lanes of traffic to one in three directions at a roundabout it's going to cause chaos?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    katydid wrote: »
    Do you still think the same after the utter chaos today? Twenty minutes to get from outside Homebase to the exit to Tesco, and fifteen minutes from there to the hospital roundabout.

    Tescos are going to lose out big time over the next couple of weeks. I hope they sue the corpo for every cent they've got.

    No its a complete clusterf*ck to be honest, hopefully the powers that be will acknowledge that quickly as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Alpha Centauri


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    N a complete clusterf*ck

    exactly!


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Alpha Centauri


    wellboytoo wrote: »
    a complete clusterf*ck

    exactly!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    What lunatics dreamt this up? Utter madness.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Daffodil.d


    Apparently they're removing it now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    Daffodil.d wrote: »
    Apparently they're removing it now.

    Yay!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan


    What is baffling is that someone, somewhere - whom we are relying on for proper management of public facilities - thought that this would be a good idea worth "trying out". As a motorist and cyclist, I cannot see any agruments that could be made to validate this approach. Cycling thru there in recent days meant sharing 60% of the old road space with 200% of the normal volume for your lane...........

    Causing back-ups on every approach road even at "quiet" times was utterly predictable.

    I fully accept that the NRA or CoCo cannot take a poll of everyone before they do anything, but playing (because that's all it was) with road users stress levels when 99.9% of people could see the likely outcome, smacks of an arrogance that I would have thought belongs to a time long ago. Seemingly not.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    What is baffling is that someone, somewhere - whom we are relying on for proper management of public facilities - thought that this would be a good idea worth "trying out". As a motorist and cyclist, I cannot see any agruments that could be made to validate this approach. Cycling thru there in recent days meant sharing 60% of the old road space with 200% of the normal volume for your lane...........

    Causing back-ups on every approach road even at "quiet" times was utterly predictable.

    I fully accept that the NRA or CoCo cannot take a poll of everyone before they do anything, but playing (because that's all it was) with road users stress levels when 99.9% of people could see the likely outcome, smacks of an arrogance that I would have thought belongs to a time long ago. Seemingly not.

    Even if the NRA, not knowing the geography of the area, the local businesses and so on, thought it was a good idea to reduce two lanes to one in three directions, one has to ask why the local authority didn't point out to them that that particular area was totally unsuitable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Daffodil.d


    katydid wrote:
    Even if the NRA, not knowing the geography of the area, the local businesses and so on, thought it was a good idea to reduce two lanes to one in three directions, one has to ask why the local authority didn't point out to them that that particular area was totally unsuitable.


    totally. AND they had to change the lane format there a few years ago to relieve traffic going ahead as opposed to into Tesco. so there was already a recorded issue there. Or did they forget that. It's the ability for ambulances to pass these that concerned me the most. Do they even bother consulting with the hospital when making these changes. This country is so backwards one has to sit back and wonder sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    katydid wrote: »
    Even if the NRA, not knowing the geography of the area, the local businesses and so on, thought it was a good idea to reduce two lanes to one in three directions, one has to ask why the local authority didn't point out to them that that particular area was totally unsuitable.

    One thing you can be sure of...NOBODY will be responsible or accountable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭TheBlaaMan




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    TheBlaaMan wrote: »
    It's a pity it had to come to the council being bombarded with complaints to make them see what a four year old would have told them, had they asked. You have to wonder what kind of morons work in the roads department.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,206 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Massive, massive morons.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭katydid


    I drove along there today, at lunchtime. Not particularly busy, but the traffic was not good. It'll be chaotic again tomorrow morning. They've taken away the barriers blocking the inner lane of the roundabout, which is a big help, but the lanes approaching the roundabout are still narrowed down to one. It was particularly bad coming from Williamstown to Tesco, where the early filter off lane helped traffic flow very well; the left lane for the turn off to Tesco, the right lane straight on for the hospital. Now you can only get into the left lane a few yards before the roundabout.

    If the idea is to put in a cycle path, there's plenty space on the grass verge on either side of the footpath.

    It looks as if they gave in to pressure after Friday's fiasco. Let's not let up now, until they see sense.


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