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Limerick FC 2014

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  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    I hate to say it about the lad but if Murray is in goal I can see him costing us the game.

    Taylor said we wont be signing Ebanks the striker that was on trial so hopefully he is still looking at other options to add another striker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    I hate to say it about the lad but if Murray is in goal I can see him costing us the game.

    Taylor said we wont be signing Ebanks the striker that was on trial so hopefully he is still looking at other options to add another striker.

    We just need to hope we are solid enough at the back that he hasn't got much to do. He is really been thrown in at the deep end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Jofspring wrote: »
    We just need to hope we are solid enough at the back that he hasn't got much to do. He is really been thrown in at the deep end.

    Surely Cusack will start if Barry is unavailable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Surely Cusack will start if Barry is unavailable?

    Cusack is injured.

    Injury list:

    Barry Ryan
    Shane Cusack
    Sam Oji
    Mick Leahy
    Robbie Williams
    Danny Galbraith

    Hopefully a few recover for Friday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Cusack is injured.

    Injury list:

    Barry Ryan
    Shane Cusack
    Sam Oji
    Mick Leahy
    Robbie Williams
    Danny Galbraith

    Hopefully a few recover for Friday.

    Ah feck...Would love to know whats up with Danny, his been the gym quiet a lot during this injury and looks fine on the treadmill and bike and seems to be as agile as a ballerina(which i'm jealous of, of course)


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Ah feck...Would love to know whats up with Danny, his been the gym quiet a lot during this injury and looks fine on the treadmill and bike and seems to be as agile as a ballerina(which i'm jealous of, of course)

    Torn Hamstring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Don't think Dave will be all that big of a loss...Gamble is a much bigger loss

    Well, I think losing the both together will be a big blow. I really expected Dave to step up this season, and I think he would have complimented Duggan nicely.

    Gamble was our only midfielder who would consistently put in a tackle, but he had the tendency to have really poor games where he looked disinterested. I like Nzuzi as a midfielder, but I wouldn't really see him as the same type... I'd see him more as a box-to-box, covering a lot of ground, rather than a ball-winner. And you do need to have someone who can win the ball back.


    Would have been great to sign Lynch... pity.

    Jofspring wrote: »
    I think Duggan is an excellent replacement for O'Leary and he is actually a better player. Gamble hasn't been replaced but I think Nzuzi will do a fine job in a similar roll to Gamble. He can read the game well, has the legs to get around the middle and he is comfortable on the ball. We still need another midfielder and striker though.

    If Prince Agyemang arrives then that should hopefully bolster the midfield. We will be relying a lot on midfield for goals I would imagine.

    Fully fit XI:

    Ryan

    Kelly
    Oji
    Leahy/Folan
    Williams

    Nzuzi
    Duggan
    Hughes

    Tracy
    Gaffney
    Curran

    Subs:
    Cusack
    Leahy/Folan
    Costello
    Murphy
    Rainsford
    Coughlan
    Sheedy

    Do we know for sure that Agyemang is coming? And if he does, do we know what position he plays? Attacking-minded or defensive?


    You've left Galbraith out of your fully fit XI.

    Mine would be:

    Ryan; Kelly, Tracy, Oji, Folan; Nzuzi, Duggan, Galbraith; Curran, Rainsford, Gaffney


    I know that is very unlikely to happen though, you can presumably include Williams at left-back, Hughes in midfield and Tracy further forward?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    To be honest I totally forgot about Galbraith.

    Prince is an attacking midfielder as far as I know or at least he likes to play the ball forward. The club still seem to be adamant that prince and Abass are coming and that they just have to leave Ghana now because all the paper work is sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Jofspring wrote: »
    To be honest I totally forgot about Galbraith.

    Prince is an attacking midfielder as far as I know or at least he likes to play the ball forward. The club still seem to be adamant that prince and Abass are coming and that they just have to leave Ghana now because all the paper work is sorted.

    It'll be good to have the numbers, I guess, but as far as I can see it's a defensive midfielder that we're missing. Someone gritty, who can step in, make a tackle, cover lots of ground, then put their foot on the ball and play a simple pass. Or even a big, strong physical presence... lots of light, tidy players... too many that do the same thing.


    Maybe Duggan could perform that role but you don't want to limit his attacking capabilities, which are probably better than the rest aswell.


    I just want Barry Ryan back..... won us so many points single-handedly last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭Pandiani


    Confirmed on RTE website that O'Leary has signed for Cork


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Leahy has the ball skills to play in the defensive midfield role I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Leahy has the ball skills to play in the defensive midfield role I think.

    Maybe his being thinking that, might explain why whitehead has been playing a bit and talked up a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Leahy has the ball skills to play in the defensive midfield role I think.

    Does he have the mobility and intelligence though?


    I don't know a huge amount about Leahy, just seen him in games against Limerick really. Looked decent but hard to judge really... I'd say it'll be close between him and Folan when everyone's fit, so if he could play midfield, it'd be a big asset.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Nzuzi was a defensive midfielder in his time with Newcastle. Prince is a defensive midfielder but i'll believe he is coming when he is here. What does that even mean just waiting to leave Ghana? Just get them a flight then surely.

    We were outmuscled in games last season and that is gonna happen again with the options we have in midfield.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Prince Agyemang and Ali Abass on the way from Ghana tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Prince Agyemang and Ali Abass on the way from Ghana tomorrow.

    For sure?


    That's a boost... if they are any good. I mean we're getting low on keepers already... Abass might have to feature in the opening weeks (presumably he won't make the Bray game). We mightn't need to use Agyemang right at the start- as we do have Hughes, Nzuzi and Duggan... and Tracy, I suppose. But if he's good, he could feature plenty of times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    For sure?


    That's a boost... if they are any good. I mean we're getting low on keepers already... Abass might have to feature in the opening weeks (presumably he won't make the Bray game). We mightn't need to use Agyemang right at the start- as we do have Hughes, Nzuzi and Duggan... and Tracy, I suppose. But if he's good, he could feature plenty of times.

    Wont be available to play Bray game as they will have just arrived that day but they are being presented to the crowd i believe.

    Heard some very very good things about both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 E.Scifo


    Cant wait for Friday :). 3 wishes to kick on from last season.

    Improve the disciplinary record starting with the sideline. We have a group of youngsters on the bench who saw at least 4 trips to the stands for the management team last season. If you cant handle yourself then how can you get this across to the players? Far to many times we had pointless red cards on the field which leads to pointless games.

    Totally agree with Fireball07's need for defensive midfielder. With our lack of experience we really really need a 30ish Dub with 10 years premier experience.

    Goal poacher required. Currens work rate is fantastic and in Gafney, Rainsford and Sheedy we have players who can all score but we could do with someone who is just going to stay inside the box looking for scraps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 645 ✭✭✭Vision of Disorder


    E.Scifo wrote: »
    Totally agree with Fireball07's need for defensive midfielder. With our lack of experience we really really need a 30ish Dub with 10 years premier experience.

    Why does he have to be a Dub? :confused: That aside Joe Gamble met your criteria fairly well. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    E.Scifo wrote: »
    Cant wait for Friday :). 3 wishes to kick on from last season.

    Improve the disciplinary record starting with the sideline. We have a group of youngsters on the bench who saw at least 4 trips to the stands for the management team last season. If you cant handle yourself then how can you get this across to the players? Far to many times we had pointless red cards on the field which leads to pointless games.

    Totally agree with Fireball07's need for defensive midfielder. With our lack of experience we really really need a 30ish Dub with 10 years premier experience.

    Goal poacher required. Currens work rate is fantastic and in Gafney, Rainsford and Sheedy we have players who can all score but we could do with someone who is just going to stay inside the box looking for scraps.
    Taylor has already been sent off in the Munster cup


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Taylor has already been sent off in the Munster cup

    Under ridiculous circumstances tbf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 E.Scifo


    Why does he have to be a Dub? :confused: That aside Joe Gamble met your criteria fairly well. :D

    Ok not a dub but there are a plenty of players from Pats, Bohs, Shels etc who have played a couple of hundred games and could bring that experience which we just dont have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    E.Scifo wrote: »
    Ok not a dub but there are a plenty of players from Pats, Bohs, Shels etc who have played a couple of hundred games and could bring that experience which we just dont have.

    They come at a big price though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 E.Scifo


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    They come at a big price though.

    Agreed but less than Gamble was getting a week


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    E.Scifo wrote: »
    Agreed but less than Gamble was getting a week

    I wouldn't be too sure about that. I know they did speak to one of those type lads and the money he wanted was a joke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Been reading a few season previews in different places- thought Liam Togher's one was pretty decent.

    Decided to do one of my own then, an optimistic one:

    http://grabsport.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/limerick-fc-2014-season-preview/


    Really, it is hard to know how the season will pan out but I am more optimistic than most. I think Oji is a class act, I think if we can keep Gaffney and Curran fit, we'll do well. Midfield and a lack of pace are my real worries- but I don't think it necessarily has to be a Dub :p Maybe Agyemang will be the answer, hopefully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Been reading a few season previews in different places- thought Liam Togher's one was pretty decent.

    Decided to do one of my own then, an optimistic one:

    http://grabsport.wordpress.com/2014/03/06/limerick-fc-2014-season-preview/


    Really, it is hard to know how the season will pan out but I am more optimistic than most. I think Oji is a class act, I think if we can keep Gaffney and Curran fit, we'll do well. Midfield and a lack of pace are my real worries- but I don't think it necessarily has to be a Dub :p Maybe Agyemang will be the answer, hopefully.

    I think people are being way too down tbh. I actually think our midfield is stronger this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    I think people are being way too down tbh. I actually think our midfield is stronger this year.

    I hope you're right,

    I would take 7th again right now and move onto to next year at markets field


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    I think people are being way too down tbh. I actually think our midfield is stronger this year.

    Duggan might be an individually better player than any of those that left... but I don't see how you could say it's stronger.

    I didn't rate Bradley at all... he looked disinterested too often; but O'Leary and Gamble must have started around 60 games between them last season. To replace that, we've got Duggan and a 19-year-old Ghanaian. I hope Nzuzi can slot in nicely at this level though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Duggan might be an individually better player than any of those that left... but I don't see how you could say it's stronger.

    I didn't rate Bradley at all... he looked disinterested too often; but O'Leary and Gamble must have started around 60 games between them last season. To replace that, we've got Duggan and a 19-year-old Ghanaian. I hope Nzuzi can slot in nicely at this level though.

    In my opinion.
    Duggan > O'Leary
    Nzuzi >/= Gamble
    Hughes > Bradley

    And this 19 year old Ghanain is supposedly quite good. Nzuzi and Hughes will cover ground far better then Gamble and Bradley and as good as Gamble was at getting the foot in him and Bradley struggled to cover the ground in Thomond at times.

    I dont think we are missing a defensive midfielder like some people seem to think. Nzuzi is a defensive midfielder that is where he played all his time at Newcastle it was only us that moved him into defence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Gamble and O'Leary cost us quite a few goals at home by losing possession in the middle of the park and not having the legs to get back and cover. Shamrock rovers and Drogheda both scored within a few weeks of each other in Thomond park by stealing the ball off Gamble and hitting it from the edge of the box.

    I liked gamble as a player and thought he did a lot of donkey work that went unnoticed but he also cost us a lot of goals. Defense didn't kelp mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    In my opinion.
    Duggan > O'Leary
    Nzuzi >/= Gamble
    Hughes > Bradley

    And this 19 year old Ghanain is supposedly quite good. Nzuzi and Hughes will cover ground far better then Gamble and Bradley and as good as Gamble was at getting the foot in him and Bradley struggled to cover the ground in Thomond at times.

    I dont think we are missing a defensive midfielder like some people seem to think. Nzuzi is a defensive midfielder that is where he played all his time at Newcastle it was only us that moved him into defence.


    Nzuzi played in midfield a couple of times last season and he looked more suited to a midfielder who covers a lot of ground, a box-to-box player rather than a defensive midfielder. Now, he may be suited to there but there is a big difference between being a defensive-minded player in a 3-man midfield and being the actual holding midfielder (the Gamble role). I hope Nzuzi can do that, but you have to have someone who can make tackles and interceptions on a consistent basis, otherwise you don't get the ball.

    Hughes might be better than Bradley, but he's not better than O'Leary or Gamble imo, and while he's a tidy player, he's nothing more than that. He doesn't really have a standout attribute. Maybe I'm being a bit harsh because he is a good player but if you want to push up the league, you need to have players who stand out.


    We'll see...




    What team do people reckon we'll see tonight? Something like:

    ..................Murray.......................
    Kelly........Folan...Whitehead Costelloe
    ..................Nzuzi..........................
    ..............Duggan Hughes................
    ......Curran.........Gaffne.....Tracy......


    That's assuming that Ryan, Cusack, Williams, Oji, Leahy and Galbraith are all ruled out (that's quite a lot for first game of the season).

    If I was picking the team, I'd have Tracy at left-back ahead of Costelloe, with Rainsford in the front 3; but with Tracy playing in an advanced role and scoring so much in pre-season, I'd say he'll go wit that.

    And a bench of:

    Walsh, Murphy, O'Connor, Feeney, Rainsford, Coughlan, Hanlon.


    Maybe Williams might make the bench- it's a decent starting 11 considering the injuries. Bit callow in defence, but Costelloe played plenty of games last season and Whitehead looked decent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Fireball07 wrote: »

    Hughes might be better than Bradley, but he's not better than O'Leary or Gamble imo, and while he's a tidy player, he's nothing more than that.

    Yes but Nzuzi and Duggan are so we have replaced players with better ones making us stronger in there imo. Nzuzi did a lot of winning the ball at right back last season I think he will cover Gamble well but time will tell. Hughes in fairness to him is well able to make a tackle too.

    My starting team from things I have heard is:

    Cusack

    Kelly Oji Folan Williams

    Duggan Nzuzi Hughes

    Tracy Gaffney Curran/Coughlan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    Yes but Nzuzi and Duggan are so we have replaced players with better ones making us stronger in there imo. Nzuzi did a lot of winning the ball at right back last season I think he will cover Gamble well but time will tell. Hughes in fairness to him is well able to make a tackle too.

    My starting team from things I have heard is:

    Cusack

    Kelly Oji Folan Williams

    Duggan Nzuzi Hughes

    Tracy Gaffney Curran/Coughlan

    If Oji and Williams are fit, it'd be a big boost. And Cusack tbf, even if I'm not his biggest fan.

    If that was the team, I think we'll win 2-0.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    If Oji and Williams are fit, it'd be a big boost. And Cusack tbf, even if I'm not his biggest fan.

    If that was the team, I think we'll win 2-0.


    I knew you were an intelligent chap. Exact same prediction as me ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭DBIreland


    For anyone who couldn't make it to the game, extratime.ie does a minute by minute update on games. Here is tonight's game http://extratime.ie/fixtures/detail/20236/1/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 E.Scifo


    Very poor game not helped by the pitch. We were 2nd best for all of the 1st half with Bray well on top in the middle.

    2nd half was better and we played it a bit until the sending off. Too far away to judge if it was worthy of a 2nd yellow but Duggans tackle in the 1st half was brutal and he was lucky he only got a yellow for it. After that the yellow given to their sub for diving was laughable and the straight red for Cassidy was very harsh. We would have been in trouble against 11 for the last 20 or so. We had a few half chances after that especially a fantastic last ditch tackle on Gafney when he looked in for the winner.

    Seeing how the game went I was happy with the point in the end along with the clean sheet. Lets hope for better in the weeks ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Fairly disappointing performance, game was poor, pitch was awful, and we didn't seem to have much of a gameplan. Too much hoofing, not enough movement from the front players and the midfield weren't confident playing it around.


    Ref was awful too, I didn't think Duggan dived, I'd have to see it again but it was harsh. Their red card was a joke, was a yellow card at most... Akinade's yellow was never one either. I think the ref tried too hard to lay down the law early on and made things difficult for himself- as it was Nzuzi was lucky to stay on the field, some stupid decisions by him.


    Defensively, we were solid throughout. Cusack made one good save, but wasn't really tested otherwise, was solid. Kelly was very good, particularly in the 2nd half, deserved his MotM. But again, I wish he'd overlap more. Folan was excellent, Williams was very good... Oji made more mistakes tonight than he did in the whole of last season, I'd say, but made a few crucial blocks and interventions. Was beaten in the air by Akinade...

    Hughes was good, Duggan was okay but the pitch caught him a few times... Nzuzi was okay but for his stupidity.


    In attack was the real problem, we had no idea what to do- Rainsford was very poor, looked completely off the pace, lacked aggression. Tracy was anonymous... Gaffney was doing it all himself, but he couldn't cross the ball to himself. Not enough people in the box, not enough movement in attack, not enough passing... it wasn't good at all. Even when they didn't clear the throw-ins, we didn't attack them at all well. If that's a tactic, surely we have know how to do it?


    Best chances were Gaffney's, brilliant tackle by Mitchell (who spent most of the game fouling Gaffney but got away with it); Oji's header, either side of the keeper and it was in; Gaffney didn't strike a chance at the far post first-time, took it down and ballooned off left; and Kelly after being set up by Hughes maybe should have done a bit better.



    Bray weren't good, we weren't either. Lacked invention, missed Curran. Must do better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Very hard for Kelly or Williams doing anything going forward when they have nothing in the box to aim for when they do get on the ball. Exact same problems as last season with nobody helping the man up front no-one going pass him from midfield. This style of play Taylor stuck to all last season is poor tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Our Brian


    Terrible stuff again last night, Taylor would want to get the finger out fast or we're in big trouble.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Poor game but on the brighter side we have another striker on the way. Tam McManus. He's in his 30's but seems to have scored goals wherever he has gone. Previous clubs Dunfermline, Derry, Colorado Rapids amoung them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    Very hard for Kelly or Williams doing anything going forward when they have nothing in the box to aim for when they do get on the ball. Exact same problems as last season with nobody helping the man up front no-one going pass him from midfield. This style of play Taylor stuck to all last season is poor tbh.

    This is very true... but Rainsford and Tracy were doing absolutely nothing. They didn't seem to know how to play the positions they were in.

    They weren't supporting Gaffney, they weren't getting wide, they weren't supporting the midfield, they weren't picking up balls in the pockets between the midfield and defence.


    That's a tactical issue really, if you're going to play that formation, the players should know how to play their position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Jofspring wrote: »
    Poor game but on the brighter side we have another striker on the way. Tam McManus. He's in his 30's but seems to have scored goals wherever he has gone. Previous clubs Dunfermline, Derry, Colorado Rapids amoung them.

    Don't know about that summation of him...

    His played 322 games(for 11 different clubs) scoring 69 goals


  • Registered Users Posts: 169 ✭✭TheBeast17


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    This is very true... but Rainsford and Tracy were doing absolutely nothing. They didn't seem to know how to play the positions they were in.

    They weren't supporting Gaffney, they weren't getting wide, they weren't supporting the midfield, they weren't picking up balls in the pockets between the midfield and defence.


    That's a tactical issue really, if you're going to play that formation, the players should know how to play their position.

    I don't think I have seen him do anything positive since his goals v UCD. Shows no potential imo. Garbhan Coughlan should take that spot imo until Craig Curran is back and then I think we need a new formation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    TheBeast17 wrote: »
    I don't think I have seen him do anything positive since his goals v UCD. Shows no potential imo. Garbhan Coughlan should take that spot imo until Craig Curran is back and then I think we need a new formation.

    I don't actually agree with that, I think Rainsford is very talented, he brings pace and power and when he gets running directly at defenders, he's a real threat. It's an asset we should be trying to use more often, but I don't think he played well at all against Bray.


    Would be nice to win tonight, but I have my doubts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Lads, quick question about parking around Thomond, whats the story with the Limerick games? Ye are playing us (Athlone) on 18th April - Good Friday, and I'm thinking of going along and bringing the car. I know for Munster games there's a park and ride but would it be safe to presume there'd only be a couple of thousand max at this game? Would I get away with leaving it close to the stadium?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,576 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Lads, quick question about parking around Thomond, whats the story with the Limerick games? Ye are playing us (Athlone) on 18th April - Good Friday, and I'm thinking of going along and bringing the car. I know for Munster games there's a park and ride but would it be safe to presume there'd only be a couple of thousand max at this game? Would I get away with leaving it close to the stadium?

    you can park in LIT, just behind the stadium :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    EA Cup

    Cork 1 - 0 Limerick @ half time, from reading our own twitter feed we have been fairly poor with Cork dominating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭banjobongo


    from twitter feed, we are now 2 nill down after a Cork penalty.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    4-0 now...its going to be a very long season i'd imagine


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