Where would you move to if you had the choice in your 20s?

Moonbeam · 28-05-2020 8:31pm

The quality of life in Norway is amazing:)
If you like the outside life it is amazing here,if you are planning kids it is a great place for them too.

Figel Narage · 29-05-2020 5:09pm

If I could live anywhere long term it would be either OZ, Canada or Norway. I have an opportunity to work in Malta but dunno if it's the right choice. Portugal and maybe even Spain would be cool but not sustainable long term due to language barriers (Same with Norway as well I suppose) but countries to just move to tomorrow would have to be somewhere fairly different to Ireland with a lot nicer weather

RasTa · 31-05-2020 5:10pm

I liked Vancouver a lot. Proper summers and winters similar to Ireland. Although a few years back now, heard rental is through the roof

Jim2007 · 31-05-2020 8:22pm

RasTa wrote: »

I liked Vancouver a lot. Proper summers and winters similar to Ireland.

Ireland does not have proper summers and winters! I want to see snow in the winter and plenty of heat in the summer. We are usually below zero in the winter with plenty of snow to dig out and around 28 - 34 in the summer.

Zascar · 01-06-2020 11:09am

What I'd like to know is where the big money is these days. Used to be in palvces like Singapre, Saudi etc, are there any new planes that pay big to get people there?

CBear1993 · 01-06-2020 12:56pm

Still the same I’d say? Middle East and certain asia.. depending on your qualification the recruiters in Australia throw money on you at LinkedIn before I moved over. Followed through as well

Figel Narage · 01-06-2020 9:00pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

Still the same I’d say? Middle East and certain asia.. depending on your qualification the recruiters in Australia throw money on you at LinkedIn before I moved over. Followed through as well

Sounds interesting, if you don't mind can you reveal what industry you work in?

I too would like to get money thrown at me in Australia, or anywhere warm for that matter

CBear1993 · 02-06-2020 10:31pm

Construction.

Before I moved to Oz I had literally 4-5 interviews lined up and could have had more. One recruiter walked me right into a $135K salary job.

CBear1993 · 09-06-2020 7:21pm

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-expensive-europe-euro-cost-of-living-5118042-Jun2020/

Interesting study done by Mercer released today.

This is for companies considering relocating their workforce, right? Or is it actual cost of living for residents? Can’t get my head around the placing of some cities on list. Dublin in 46 and Sydney in 66? Sydney is surely more expensive to live in Or am I missing something? Dublin’s rental rates push it way up but Sydney is $16-25 just for eggs avocado and toast breakfast. One room in an apartment you’re lucky if you can get one for $300 a week. Most lads I know in Dublin pay around €700.

Skidfingers · 10-06-2020 8:14am

CBear1993 wrote: »

Construction.

Before I moved to Oz I had literally 4-5 interviews lined up and could have had more. One recruiter walked me right into a $135K salary job.

Would you get offered that sort of money as a QS in early 20's though with 2-3 years experience?

Everything I see on indeed or linkedin seems to be $70-100k range for QS with under 5 years experience. Over 5 years experience $100-150k. Thinking of going next June or July!

CBear1993 · 10-06-2020 9:53am

Seek is the big job site over there, look on it. Just build your CV up a bit and wing it, you’d be more useful than the Aussies or Asians. New Zealand QS’ are of good standard

theoldbreed · 10-06-2020 11:28am

Have lived for short periods of time in the US (near Philadelphia) I loved it and have travelled a good bit in the US but don't think I could live there more long term.
Australia - really just like a warm Ireland, although a lot of people I know have come back home.
NZ - expensive but loved it and could live there.
France - I speak French, which is important, I loved it and am considering retiring there (I'm only 37 )

Lived more long term in Canada - can't fault it!
Germany - again can't fault it! You do need to speak German, you'll pick it up very quickly!

I think if I had to recommend one place it would be Germany!

Zascar · 10-06-2020 11:33am

Very lucky to speak French, France is a fantastic country. Shame about some of the French - quite different from irish, but it would be a great place to retire to.

CBear1993 · 10-06-2020 7:40pm

Germany is the most popular answer on the thread I believe!

CBear1993 · 11-06-2020 5:24pm

Thanks for all the answers to the thread.

Based on the replies, girlfriend and I are going to visit one of these places in July now when the flights are cheap, to see if we’d move there.

Jim2007 · 11-06-2020 8:33pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

Germany is the most popular answer on the thread I believe!

Nah, don't like to have to listen to people speaking High German, especially Northerners.....

:D:D

Skidfingers · 12-06-2020 11:24am

What is the cost of living / salaries like in Germany?

Jim2007 · 12-06-2020 5:02pm

Best link for cost of living:

https://www.ubs.com/microsites/prices-earnings/en/

Gamb!t · 20-06-2020 11:30am

Whats a good site for IT jobs in Canada?

CBear1993 · 13-08-2020 4:27pm

Would be interesting to note the places least affected by Covid to move to, of course this is changing all the time.

For me Dublin is terrible post march 2020. Eery feeling about and with no pubs or gigs etc it’s a bit of a ghost town

Jim2007 · 13-08-2020 6:35pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

Would be interesting to note the places least affected by Covid to move to, of course this is changing all the time.

For me Dublin is terrible post march 2020. Eery feeling about and with no pubs or gigs etc it’s a bit of a ghost town

Well if that is the criteria, I'd say you were out of luck, unless you want to chance the UK...

CBear1993 · 13-08-2020 8:30pm

Jim2007 wrote: »

Well if that is the criteria, I'd say you were out of luck, unless you want to chance the UK...

Wouldn’t frequent them all that often but just think it’s been shown up for what it really is when it’s pubs are gone. Hasn’t a whole pile else going for it bar the lively atmosphere when that buzz is around.

Jim2007 · 13-08-2020 9:00pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

Wouldn’t frequent them all that often but just think it’s been shown up for what it really is when it’s pubs are gone. Hasn’t a whole pile else going for it bar the lively atmosphere when that buzz is around.

Well here in Switzerland, apart from no real August 1st celebrations (National Holiday) and very few going on holidays abroad I'd it's not really too bad.

There is nothing stopping people going hiking, swimming, cycling, camping etc... and most families can of hang with the same few families in any case, so it's a kind of a social bubble in any case.

My kids are early 20s now, but even for them social life consists mainly of hanging out with the same five or six people and before the lockdown say a house part once or twice a month.

So not really a dramatic change, but it probably is not the live of everyone.

Timmyr · 19-08-2020 12:45am

I have been living abroad most of my adult life, spent time in California, Australia and West Africa.

Been living in NZ almost four years now, I just got my residency and I think this will be my forever home.
The country is amazing and I love Auckland as a home.

Skidfingers · 19-08-2020 8:28am

It will probably be at least this time next year before could even consider moving somewhere.

CBear1993 · 19-08-2020 9:12am

Unfortunately so! Unless a short move across to Europe. No idea about Asia’s policies

dave 27 · 19-08-2020 9:23am

Having lived in Australia for two years when i was younger and recently visited New Zealand for a month i would definately say new zealand. A simply stunning country

Skidfingers · 19-08-2020 6:58pm

Was originally going to change car but had decided against it if I was going to move abroad around next summer, didn’t see the point.

If it was another 2 years until I could move I probably would change it now. Difficult to make plans and see when could get away now.

Solli · 19-08-2020 7:03pm

Anywhere on the west coast of Ireland. Best standard of living after all the continents I’ve lived in.

Jim2007 · 19-08-2020 7:35pm

Solli wrote: »

Anywhere on the west coast of Ireland. Best standard of living after all the continents I’ve lived in.

Having grown up there that would be a definite no.

CBear1993 · 19-08-2020 7:40pm

Solli wrote: »

Anywhere on the west coast of Ireland. Best standard of living after all the continents I’ve lived in.

Funny that quite a lot of the 18-30 population from the Wesht head away and some never return.

El Tarangu · 19-08-2020 8:57pm

Solli wrote: »

Anywhere on the west coast of Ireland. Best standard of living after all the continents I’ve lived in.

Beautiful scenery and lovely people, but the number of days of rainfall per year would really grind you down.

Skidfingers · 19-08-2020 9:05pm

Solli wrote: »

Anywhere on the west coast of Ireland. Best standard of living after all the continents I’ve lived in.

Where I'm currently living.

Weather and lifestyle just doesn't do it for me.

Zascar · 20-08-2020 5:33am

dave 27 wrote: »

Having lived in Australia for two years when i was younger and recently visited New Zealand for a month i would definately say new zealand. A simply stunning country

I've never been to New Zealand, but I lived in Australia for a while and it's an absolutely fantastic place. So vast and varied with 8 main cities I think everyone can find something they like. I've heard nothing but good things about New Zealand also.

The only problem with both of them is that they are just so so dam far away! Coming home is a whopper trip done pretty rarely by most. If it was only 5 hours or so we'd probably all leave!

corks finest · 20-08-2020 6:26am

NZ/ Transylvania probably the latter, spent lot of time there, planned to live full time during the early 90s but life and divorce changed that

Das Reich · 20-08-2020 6:46am

If I had money, Portugal or Italy. Hard to think of a country with better life than those two.

nutjobb · 20-08-2020 7:21am

Switzerland for me. Have been there 3 times now, twice woth work and once on a road trip.

The scenery is out of this world, winter time you have the ski slopes, summer time you have beautiful mountain trails and activities, mountain biking, zip lining, tobogganing etc. Location is good you have access to most of Europe by car.

It is expensive there but maybe someone can confirm there is lenient tax requirements in certain areas, Zug for example?

Skidfingers · 20-08-2020 8:44am

Das Reich wrote: »

If I had money, Portugal or Italy. Hard to think of a country with better life than those two.

Portugal is a lovely country and seems so underrated.

CBear1993 · 20-08-2020 9:16am

nutjobb wrote: »

Switzerland for me. Have been there 3 times now, twice woth work and once on a road trip.

The scenery is out of this world, winter time you have the ski slopes, summer time you have beautiful mountain trails and activities, mountain biking, zip lining, tobogganing etc. Location is good you have access to most of Europe by car.

It is expensive there but maybe someone can confirm there is lenient tax requirements in certain areas, Zug for example?

Parents were there for a trip a few weeks ago, Zurich and Lucerne etc. said it was astronomically expensive for everything, more than most other places they’d been in Europe, plus hotel price. But absolutely loved it.

EB_2013 · 20-08-2020 11:09am

Das Reich wrote: »

If I had money, Portugal or Italy. Hard to think of a country with better life than those two.

Great places to retire to, but finding work would be tough I imagine.

What about the Netherlands/Belgium/Luxembourg? Good economies, nice people, great infrastructure and not too far away to fly home. The language barrier might be a problem but they would be top of my list if I was moving abroad.

dzsfah2xoynme9 · 20-08-2020 11:12am

West Coast of the South Island in New Zealand. I absolutely loved how sparsely populated it is, the scenery, the people. I even love the climate.

Rawr · 20-08-2020 11:22am

I emigrated to Norway in my 20s. It was a good move and I tend to recommend it to anyone who doesn't mind going to a place that doesn't have that many Irish people to being with.

You can get away with English for quite a lot of things, but for the best quality of life and job prospects you need to learn the language. I can imagine both Sweden & Denmark to be pretty similar in this respect.

Quality of life is very good and taking time off is baked into the culture. There is no question of you actually taking your holidays which most of country has a knack of doing at the same time.

Norway is an interesting blend of highly developed towns and cities nestled within swaths of wild nature and extreme geography. If you don't mind the cold and the incredibly high prices (pay tends to be better than in Ireland), it's a good move.

Das Reich · 20-08-2020 1:45pm

EB_2013 wrote: »

Great places to retire to, but finding work would be tough I imagine.

What about the Netherlands/Belgium/Luxembourg? Good economies, nice people, great infrastructure and not too far away to fly home. The language barrier might be a problem but they would be top of my list if I was moving abroad.

Yes, that's why I said it need money to invest in some business. Speaking about Benelux, I see no advantage compared to Ireland. Belgium some areas have 40% of muslim population. And ugly seaside and lanscape. Ireland beat benelux any time.

CBear1993 · 20-08-2020 1:54pm

Yeah agreed on that one, sorry to tar it all with the same brush but I have found holland incredibly dull and boring any time I've been, although I've only visited groningen, amsterdam and utrecht. Was in Brussels once and it was the worst weekend break I've ever had.

Ireland is way more beautiful.

ngunners · 20-08-2020 3:25pm

corks finest wrote: »

NZ/ Transylvania probably the latter, spent lot of time there, planned to live full time during the early 90s but life and divorce changed that

Why Transylvania if you don’t mind me asking? Seems an unusual choice?

Zascar · 20-08-2020 3:40pm

Portugal is supposed to be brilliant. I've been to the Algarve several times (got married there) and really loved it. Never been to Lisbon but everyone raves about it. Great weather and quality of life, English is widely spoken, low tax for expats.

Skidfingers · 20-08-2020 5:00pm

Zascar wrote: »

Portugal is supposed to be brilliant. I've been to the Algarve several times (got married there) and really loved it. Never been to Lisbon but everyone raves about it. Great weather and quality of life, English is widely spoken, low tax for expats.

Same as this, I found the Portuguese very friendly too, more friendly then Spanish for example. It's also only a 2 hour flight.

Would love to visit Algarve again, been a good few years. Not sure how it would be job wise though.

Skidfingers · 21-08-2020 10:54pm

Is there any indication when Australia’s borders will
open again?

Mad_maxx · 23-08-2020 9:51pm

Nico Damaged Radar wrote: »

West Coast of the South Island in New Zealand. I absolutely loved how sparsely populated it is, the scenery, the people. I even love the climate.

Rains more than in Ireland

Jim2007 · 23-08-2020 11:06pm

EB_2013 wrote: »

What about the Netherlands/Belgium/Luxembourg?

Way too flat. I had to visit a data center there one time and as my flight arrived at an odd time they sent a car for me. It was the most boring 2.5 hour drive ever. I still remember it and that was 30 years ago.

Good economies, nice people, great infrastructure and not too far away to fly home. The language barrier might be a problem but they would be top of my list if I was moving abroad.

Ya the the people are nice and language is not that bad for me, once you’ve got your head around a Swiss German dialect you can understand a fair bit of most Germanic languages and there is always French.

Where would you move to if you had the choice in your 20s?

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