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Calf price chitchat

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    #1652
    weatherbyfoxer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Jjameson wrote: »
    The figures were very realistic. Optimistic even.

    really?..a march born holstein friesian bull calf at 2 weeks old minimum price of purchase €100??..more like under €50


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    #1653
    Keepgrowing
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    weatherbyfoxer wrote: »
    really?..a march born holstein friesian bull calf at 2 weeks old minimum price of purchase €100??..more like under €50

    Sold 40 bull calves out of yard on Thursday €40 each, lotto money in my view and they’re all off heifers. 15-17 days old


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    #1654
    patsy_mccabe
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    Sold 40 bull calves out of yard on Thursday €40 each, lotto money in my view and they’re all off heifers. 15-17 days old

    What would their breeding be? FR x Hol?

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



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    #1655
    Keepgrowing
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    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    What would their breeding be? FR x Hol?

    NR x Fr


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    #1656
    stretch film
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    Keepgrowing wrote: »
    NR x Fr

    You milking nr yet.


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    #1657
    Keep Sluicing
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Keep Sluicing


    I've been off boards the last few weeks. But there doesn't seem to be any hassle getting calves sold in my part of cork. There were prophets of doom locally claiming there was going to be "calfmageddon" this spring.


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    #1658
    whelan2
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    Keep Sluicing wrote: »
    I've been off boards the last few weeks. But there doesn't seem to be any hassle getting calves sold in my part of cork. There were prophets of doom locally claiming there was going to be "calfmageddon" this spring.

    No boat yesterday or the week before....


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    #1659
    Gawddawggonnit
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    Sold 3 heifer calves. 2 were Chx and 1 Lmx.
    They were 26 days old and weighed 77kgs average. Average €110/head.


    Puts Jex into perspective...


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    #1660
    DukeCaboom
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    No boat yesterday or the week before....

    Ya every farmer that ever bought a calf in cork arrived into macroom Saturday rubbing their hands at the thought of a calf bonanza... It was a hoult anything that made €5/€10 in skibbereen was making €40 /€50. Farmers are the best customers as ever.

    Dont expect any deals in bandon tomorrow either, the main shipper has only a few calves on hand, he is expecting to sail Tuesday so he'll haveto fill it.


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    #1661
    weatherbyfoxer
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    anyone know what continental x calves are making at the minute?


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    #1662
    JeffKenna
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Ya every farmer that ever bought a calf in cork arrived into macroom Saturday rubbing their hands at the thought of a calf bonanza... It was a hoult anything that made €5/€10 in skibbereen was making €40 /€50. Farmers are the best customers as ever.

    Dont expect any deals in bandon tomorrow either, the main shipper has only a few calves on hand, he is expecting to sail Tuesday so he'll haveto fill it.

    Massive difference to last year in Bandon so when FR bull calves where left unsold and not collected nor fed by farmers until 2am in the morning.


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    #1663
    DukeCaboom
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    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Massive difference to last year in Bandon so when FR bull calves where left unsold and not collected nor fed by farmers until 2am in the morning.

    All that was wrong that day was it was very young calves turned up. 100 went unsold that day.

    On another note the dept were in macroom checking calves. One calf which was definitely underage as his navel wasn't dried was isolated and was been photographed by the dept.


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    #1664
    GrasstoMilk
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    Keep Sluicing wrote: »
    I've been off boards the last few weeks. But there doesn't seem to be any hassle getting calves sold in my part of cork. There were prophets of doom locally claiming there was going to be "calfmageddon" this spring.

    Numbers will start to rise from now on. 300k births so far. They're on the way.
    We've 30 to move out here. Would be similar on lots of farms


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    #1665
    Base price
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    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Massive difference to last year in Bandon so when FR bull calves where left unsold and not collected nor fed by farmers until 2am in the morning.
    That incident occurred later in the calving season (middle of March) when there was nearly 2000 calves in the mart that day. The word came through that the livestock lorries wouldn't be able to sail that week due to the arrival of a storm. It affected calf prices throughout the country and most farmers had to hold onto their calves for an additional week.


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    #1666
    kevthegaff
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    Lad from the north rang me about buying calves for shipping, if deal hel pay tomorrow and collect Wednesday. Would u be trusting


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    #1667
    Bass Reeves
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Numbers will start to rise from now on. 300k births so far. They're on the way.
    We've 30 to move out here. Would be similar on lots of farms

    There is just about another 1.2 million to go nothing to worry about.They will all sail away happy

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #1668
    whelan2
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Ya every farmer that ever bought a calf in cork arrived into macroom Saturday rubbing their hands at the thought of a calf bonanza... It was a hoult anything that made €5/€10 in skibbereen was making €40 /€50. Farmers are the best customers as ever.

    Dont expect any deals in bandon tomorrow either, the main shipper has only a few calves on hand, he is expecting to sail Tuesday so he'll haveto fill it.

    Any word is there a boat going tomorrow


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    #1669
    alps
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any word is there a boat going tomorrow

    Absolutely no chance if it was horses. Bovine dont get motion sick however, but this looks real rough..Wave height in meters..


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    #1670
    DukeCaboom
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any word is there a boat going tomorrow

    Ya but only one lorry per shipper.

    3 week old fr bulls well done making €180 in bandon today. Farmers blowing the shippers out!! :)


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    #1671
    Bass Reeves
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Ya but only one lorry per shipper.

    3 week old fr bulls well done making €180 in bandon today. Farmers blowing the shippers out!! :)

    I will be buying them in May/June 2021 for 500 euro

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #1672
    Panch18
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    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    I will be buying them in May/June 2021 for 500 euro

    It seems to me that you are willing there to be a calf crisis.


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    #1673
    Bass Reeves
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    Panch18 wrote: »
    It seems to me that you are willing there to be a calf crisis.

    No I am not but I am pointing out the simple economic fact if finished prices remain as is I expect I will it such yearling mid summer next year for 1.2 1.4/kg.we are after two autumn's where they have even been lower than that

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #1674
    Panch18
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    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    No I am not but I am pointing out the simple economic fact if finished prices remain as is I expect I will it such yearling mid summer next year for 1.2 1.4/kg.we are after two autumn's where they have even been lower than that

    Fellas are paying decent (relatively speaking obviously) money for calves now because they are getting super prices for weanlings and yearlings in the marts at the moment. This bracket of animal is anything from 100-200 above where they should really be.

    The profit on an animal is not the difference between what that particular animals is bought and sold for - its the difference between his sales price and his replacement price


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    #1675
    weatherbyfoxer
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    any half decent angus or Hereford yearlings are trading at around €2/kg at the moment..these could be bought as calves for €120-€150 depending on age last spring..often wonder how some lads make up there margins on finishing stock..the best of those cattle could kill into 1250 in 12 months time if the current beef price continues


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    #1676
    kevthegaff
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    What are hereford/fr cross calves making?


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    #1677
    Toetohand
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    All that was wrong that day was it was very young calves turned up. 100 went unsold that day.

    On another note the dept were in macroom checking calves. One calf which was definitely underage as his navel wasn't dried was isolated and was been photographed by the dept.

    Proper order too. I was there every second Saturday last year from about March to May and a small percentage each Saturday obviously very young. It wouldn’t kill lads to feed them for a fortnight like.


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    #1678
    Bass Reeves
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    Panch18 wrote: »
    Fellas are paying decent (relatively speaking obviously) money for calves now because they are getting super prices for weanlings and yearlings in the marts at the moment. This bracket of animal is anything from 100-200 above where they should really be.

    The profit on an animal is not the difference between what that particular animals is bought and sold for - its the difference between his sales price and his replacement price

    In theory you are correct but calves are coming into the mart faster than weanlings/yearlings and especially dairy cross ones. When numbers start to increase it hard to see prices remain as strong as present. I just cannot understand the mentality of paying such a price for a 3week old calf when in all probability you will get the same calf in 2-3 weeks for sub 100. Not every lad selling buying calves is selling weanlings at the same time.

    I went to the mart 6-7 times last year I only bought two day one day six and the second day 22. I see no point in buying to a projected losd

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #1679
    alps
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    Panch18 wrote: »
    Fellas are paying decent (relatively speaking obviously) money for calves now because they are getting super prices for weanlings and yearlings in the marts at the moment. This bracket of animal is anything from 100-200 above where they should really be.

    The profit on an animal is not the difference between what that particular animals is bought and sold for - its the difference between his sales price and his replacement price

    Imteresting pitch


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    #1680
    DukeCaboom
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    17 calves sent home from bandon yesterday. Starvation. Same lad milks about 120 cows.)


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    #1681
    whelan2
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    17 calves sent home from bandon yesterday. Starvation. Same lad milks about 120 cows.)

    What were the prices like


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