Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

TEFL/CELTA/CELT answers...

1…457910…14

Comments

  • #302
    The Black Pearl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭The Black Pearl


    rentboy wrote: »
    Just wondering can anybody please help and advise me on what are the best regarded and intensive/comprehensive T.E.F.L courses that can be done in Dublin. I do not have a degree and am 27. I am well educated though and would like to teach in either France or Spain. Thank you for any advice whatsoever. Note, I am thinking of doing the 450 euro month long weekend course by Merrion Square in the 'International TEFL College of Ireland'. It is 9-5 Saturdays and Sundays for a month. Is this sufficient for teaching in say Spain, France, Germany, Czech Rep., Austria etc? for a year.


    Identical situation to this one. Ive heard the above course would be enough to secure a job is Lisbon although Im a little unsure personally....any thoughts?


  • #303
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    Hi there 'The Black Pearl',

    Cheers for your reply. Yeah you see I do think that the course in Westland Row I mentioned above is actually fine. I am just a bit fussy as I want to get the best possible TEFL considering I don't yet have a degree. My friend actually done this month long weekend course in ITCI and he said that it is actually fine. My only concern is how will it be viewed abroad and will its status reflect pay etc.

    I have been doing a bit of research on other alternatives and I stumbled upon what I believe to be the best course to do and you do not necessarily need a degree. It just means you cannot teach in Ireland. It is a CELT course and a good few schools around Dublin offer these courses which cost approximately €1,000 or a bit extra. This is probably what I will do even though it is quite pricey. These courses are Internationally recognised and are ACELS approved. Here is the link to the ACELS site which gives a list of all the legit schools and courses in Ireland.

    http://acels.ie.somedomain.ie/Search.aspx?location=Dublin

    (I, myself, might do the one in The Swan School on Grafton Street or the one in Bray.)

    Note also that I am not sure that all of these schools offer teacher training courses and that I think when doing such courses without actually holding a degree you must sign a waiver precluding you from working in Ireland whilst allowing you to work abroad. As far as I can surmise, this is the best possible avenue for our wee 'situation'! I hope this helps you. Feel free to ask anymore questions. Cheers.


  • #304
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    The Black Pearl wrote: »
    Identical situation to this one. Ive heard the above course would be enough to secure a job is Lisbon although Im a little unsure personally....any thoughts?


    See what you think of this link.

    http://learnenglishireland-swan.com/Teacher%20Training.html


  • #305
    squeakyduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    I'm off to do a CELT course with Dublin School of English. It's 980 for the full and part time ones. My best friend who is in Switzerland at the moment did this around November time and basically got a job immediately :)

    I'm starting my course on the 28th of March and it runs until the 12th of May roughly, about 6 weeks. 6.00 till 9.30 at night mon to Thurs and 10-4ish on Saturday.


  • #306
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    squeakyduck wrote: »
    I'm off to do a CELT course with Dublin School of English. It's 980 for the full and part time ones. My best friend who is in Switzerland at the moment did this around November time and basically got a job immediately :)

    I'm starting my course on the 28th of March and it runs until the 12th of May roughly, about 6 weeks. 6.00 till 9.30 at night mon to Thurs and 10-4ish on Saturday.

    Hi Squeaky Duck,

    That sounds brilliant, thanks for the heads up. I might look into that myself actually. Does it matter if you have a degree or not?

    Thanks a million.


  • Advertisement
  • #307
    squeakyduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    I think you would have a degree in general or the likes. Especially if you wanted to teach around the world.

    I have a BA in History and English and a MA in English as well.

    I would get on to DSE quickly to see if you can get a place for the 28th of March, 200e deposit and the remainder 2 weeks before to course. They had me take a little test to see that I could actually speak the language (it was really hard, stuff you don't learn in school and college) but I got a place! :) They are really nice in there too! :)


  • #308
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    squeakyduck wrote: »
    I think you would have a degree in general or the likes. Especially if you wanted to teach around the world.

    I have a BA in History and English and a MA in English as well.

    I would get on to DSE quickly to see if you can get a place for the 28th of March, 200e deposit and the remainder 2 weeks before to course. They had me take a little test to see that I could actually speak the language (it was really hard, stuff you don't learn in school and college) but I got a place! :) They are really nice in there too! :)

    Cool, thanks a million Squeaky Duck. I will surely check it out! :)


  • #309
    The Black Pearl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭The Black Pearl


    rentboy wrote: »
    Hi there 'The Black Pearl',

    Cheers for your reply. Yeah you see I do think that the course in Westland Row I mentioned above is actually fine. I am just a bit fussy as I want to get the best possible TEFL considering I don't yet have a degree. My friend actually done this month long weekend course in ITCI and he said that it is actually fine. My only concern is how will it be viewed abroad and will its status reflect pay etc.

    I have been doing a bit of research on other alternatives and I stumbled upon what I believe to be the best course to do and you do not necessarily need a degree. It just means you cannot teach in Ireland. It is a CELT course and a good few schools around Dublin offer these courses which cost approximately €1,000 or a bit extra. This is probably what I will do even though it is quite pricey. These courses are Internationally recognised and are ACELS approved. Here is the link to the ACELS site which gives a list of all the legit schools and courses in Ireland.

    http://acels.ie.somedomain.ie/Search.aspx?location=Dublin

    (I, myself, might do the one in The Swan School on Grafton Street or the one in Bray.)

    Note also that I am not sure that all of these schools offer teacher training courses and that I think when doing such courses without actually holding a degree you must sign a waiver precluding you from working in Ireland whilst allowing you to work abroad. As far as I can surmise, this is the best possible avenue for our wee 'situation'! I hope this helps you. Feel free to ask anymore questions. Cheers.

    Thanks v much, I think you saved me a few hours of further research.


  • #310
    Geansai Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Geansai Rua


    Do I need to have my degree finished to do a TEFL course?
    I am 22 years old and am in year three of a four year honours degree : Advertising and Marketing communications

    I really wanted to do one of the courses during the summer to have it to use immediatly next year.

    Also which is best? CELT or CELTA? I want to mainly teach in Ireland, Oz, NZ, or around Europe.


  • #311
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    Geansai Rua wrote: »
    Do I need to have my degree finished to do a TEFL course?
    I am 22 years old and am in year three of a four year honours degree : Advertising and Marketing communications

    I really wanted to do one of the courses during the summer to have it to use immediatly next year.

    Also which is best? CELT or CELTA? I want to mainly teach in Ireland, Oz, NZ, or around Europe.

    Hi Geansaí Rua,

    Fair play to you on nearing the end of your degree, one year to go. As far as I know you can do any top TEFL course. The fact that you are in your last year is fine. I think you can do ANY TEFL course you want once you let the school know you are in your last year. You can do the course either full time (Monday to Friday 9-5) or part time (on the weekends/evenings).

    As regards which is best, well, I think CELTA is teaching English to adults specifically. Anyway, tar éis an lá, the very fact that you have one year left for your degree speaks volumes and you should have no problem doing and getting any TEFL you want. Degree holders can teach in Ireland AND abroad.

    Hope this helps.
    RB.


  • Advertisement
  • #312
    Geansai Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Geansai Rua


    Thanks for the reply.

    So the CELTA is mainly teaching to adults and CELT to kids???
    Sorry if thats a stupid question, havent a clue!!

    I would be initially looking for jobs in Ireland from doing the course as it will be a while before I can move abroad, and its unlikely I will get a job straight from my degree.

    I was looking into the day course in the International house dublin. So expensive though. Is there a cheaper and similar alternative. I dont mind paying the extra money, but Id hope it would be worth it!


  • #313
    Patricide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    squeakyduck wrote: »
    I'm off to do a CELT course with Dublin School of English. It's 980 for the full and part time ones. My best friend who is in Switzerland at the moment did this around November time and basically got a job immediately :)

    I'm starting my course on the 28th of March and it runs until the 12th of May roughly, about 6 weeks. 6.00 till 9.30 at night mon to Thurs and 10-4ish on Saturday.
    Wow, I didnt see this course at all. Seems a good bit cheaper than the International House Celta which between everything costs in and around 2k.

    Do you know of any advantages/disadvantages it has over it?


  • #314
    squeakyduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    http://www.dse.ie/courses-one.php?id=43

    There is the webpage for it Patricide. The only difference would be what you would be awarded CELT for DSE compared to CELTA with the international house and maybe a difference between the amount of teaching hours you might do.

    Gansai Rua. The OP outlines CELT v CELTA in the very first post. I continue to get mixed up between them even now! :rolleyes:
    KevinDublin wrote: »
    Firstly; In order to be considered qualified to teach English in Ireland (or in the UK) the ONLY certificates allowed are certificated issued by ACELS (the English schools branch of the Dept. of Ed.). This means that I to I courses are NOT valid TEFL courses to teach in Ireland. A full list of these providers can be found on www.acels.ie

    If you are looking to actually learn to be an English teacher, you should do either the CELTA or the CELT. IMO both courses are the best qualifications in the world to become and English teacher. Also, BOTH will allow you to teach in Ireland and the UK but also are very highly regarded everywhere else.

    Whats the difference between the CELTA and the CELT?
    One difference is that the CELTA is run by Cambridge University whereas the CELT is an Irish Dept of education (acels) certificate.
    The CELT is also considerably cheaper, (around 1000 euros Vs 1500 for the CELTA)

    Realistically, to learn to teach English, you have to, at some stage stand up in front of a bunch of non native students and learn by doing. The CELT has at least 8 hours of you teaching students whilst being observed by a trainer. That kind of experience is invaluable and cannot be found by these nonsense online courses.

    My advice for people looking to teacher at home or abroad is to do a CELT course. It might be 200 or 300 euros more expensive that the online or weekend courses but it will equip you to be an English teacher and even if you are not planning to teach in Ireland, you never know what will happen in the future and you might find yourself having to apply in Ireland for a few hours work in which case the CELT course will stand to you.

    Sorry for such a long post but I go into rant mode when I see some of the false claims floating around about weekend courses on online course enabling you to teach. They neither qualify you nor equip you!!!


  • #315
    Geansai Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Geansai Rua


    Thanks squeakyduck.

    Im currently undecided between the CELTA course in International House and the CELT course in DSE.

    There is a considerable difference in price, wondering if the extra 700euro would be worth it with the CELTA. In terms of getting a job in Ireland for a while and then abroad.

    Both are held in August so that is good for me!


  • #316
    Up-n-atom!
    Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Up-n-atom!


    I'm just going to throw my 2 cents in here to see if it will help - I did the DSE 4 week full-time course back in November (so I think I know your friend squeaky duck!). As the original post states, there's not that much difference between CELT and CELTA courses other than the Cambridge association with the latter. Having spoken to people on the course who also did the entry exam for a CELTA course, their opinion was that it was a bit harder than the one for the CELT course.

    IMO the CELTA course might be the better option if you want to make a serious career out of tefl (because I get the impression it's slightly more indepth and geared towards teaching the Cambridge system). At the same time, the Cambridge system isn't as dominant as it used to be, and the qualification from the CELT course is more than adequate for jobs working in Ireland and abroad (and, in any case, there's nothing stopping you from persuing a long-term career using this once you get your foot in the door).

    Since the course I'm finding it hard to get jobs here, since most of the schools are looking for people with experience rather than newbies. Most of the people from my class who have work in the area are working abroad. I'd say if your interested in working in Ireland, there should be tefl work in language camps in Ireland over the summer - there always seems to be a lack of teachers for these as the work is a bit tougher going than teaching adults in a classroom (which most experienced teachers are used to). Hope this helps!


  • #317
    Patricide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Thanks for all the information here guys. Although that 700 euro is a LOT of money for me I think I will go for the CELTA over the CELT. If my experiences abroad have taught me anything its that every small advantage helps and in the long run it should hopefully pay me to do the course.

    Before I apply, is there any last minute advice that people in here are willing to give? Also is international house in Dublin the only Celta provider in Ireland that I can apply for without already having a degree? I would have applied for the course in UCC but unfortunately it is the case there.


  • #318
    Cole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Cole


    Patricide wrote: »
    Thanks for all the information here guys. Although that 700 euro is a LOT of money for me I think I will go for the CELTA over the CELT. If my experiences abroad have taught me anything its that every small advantage helps and in the long run it should hopefully pay me to do the course.

    Before I apply, is there any last minute advice that people in here are willing to give? Also is international house in Dublin the only Celta provider in Ireland that I can apply for without already having a degree? I would have applied for the course in UCC but unfortunately it is the case there.

    There is a new school teaching the CELTA in Dublin, don't know anything about them. I would suggest checking them out.
    http://cambridgeesol-centres.org/centres/teaching/search.do;jsessionid=99D62546D67C78A84BBFBB0318D082B0.node02?source=teacheraward&country=IE&qualification=10&Input=Search

    I did mine in IH. The one piece of advice that I would give is, don't take the tutors grading/feedback too much to heart. I thought (and nearly everyone else on my course did also) that much of the assessment of individual trainees was incredibly subjective. Some of us could do no wrong, others could do no right......I came somewhere inbetween.:)

    Just keep your head down, do the work, nod and agree with the staff.....even if you feel like exploding with frustration....and you'll be fine.


  • #319
    Geansai Rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Geansai Rua


    I was at the CELTA info session in IH Dublin on Saturday. The impression was that this is REALLY difficult! 10% of participants fail the course and most get a C grade.
    I hope to do the course in August and teach in Ireland from next summer.

    Just looking at the other Dublin course that Cole mentioned above. Only one course date so far, probably unlikely that there will be another this year??


  • #320
    Patricide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭Patricide


    Geansai Rua wrote: »
    I was at the CELTA info session in IH Dublin on Saturday. The impression was that this is REALLY difficult! 10% of participants fail the course and most get a C grade.
    I hope to do the course in August and teach in Ireland from next summer.

    Just looking at the other Dublin course that Cole mentioned above. Only one course date so far, probably unlikely that there will be another this year??
    Well the way I see it is. If these courses were easy then everyone would be doing them. A lot of people who have a great grasp of English may not know the proper terms for what they are doing, or at least not enough to explain/teach it.


  • #321
    fatguss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ✭fatguss


    I am hoping to begin the CELTA course in IH. I was wondering if anyone who has completed the course, or a similar course, could provide me with some resources to help get my grammar up to scratch before I begin?
    I have been researching online but there is so much information, I don't know where to begin!

    Any help would be greatly appreciated,
    thanks!


  • Advertisement
  • #322
    Up-n-atom!
    Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Up-n-atom!


    A popular one is Raymond Murphy's English Grammar in Use. It can be used as worksheets in class too so it's handy and pretty straightforward. I also got Martin Parrott's Grammar for English Language Teachers, which is very good but kind of intimidating for someone new to all this (it has tons and tons of complicated rules that I didn't even know existed, and ones you don't necessarily need to know starting out!). A lot of these books are in the Dublin libraries (but are often out!) so keep an eye out.

    Online, the One Stop English website isn't bad. I liked English Club, it gives good explanations of common grammar points. Hope this helps!


  • #323
    dapto1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭dapto1


    Edit: nm!


  • #324
    scoogie
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭scoogie


    Hi Everyone

    I am currently training to be a Primary School Teacher but plan on doing a CELT course when I graduate in August as a back-up as the job situation for newly-qualified teachers isn't looking too good.

    I definitely want to do an ACELS accredited course as I intend on staying in Ireland. Would CELT be sufficient do you think? I don't really fancy doing the CELTA.

    Is there a different course out there that I should be looking for as an un-dipped primary school teacher? I was thinking if doing the CELT course in Edgewater in Drogheda...


  • #325
    captainspeckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭captainspeckle


    Does anyone know what exactly the ELT masters in UL equips you to do?


    I am getting incredibly confused by all of this! :confused:


  • #326
    Toto Wolfcastle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    Off-topic post deleted. If you have a problem with a post please report it rather than commenting on thread.


  • #327
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    Hey guys,

    As I will be doing the CELTA course in International House in a couple of months I was wondering if anybody can direct me or give advice on the course itself i.e where I can prepare myself in advance? I want to basically get studying now as I really want/need to pass this course!

    Many many thanks,
    RB.


  • #328
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    rentboy wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    As I will be doing the CELTA course in International House in a couple of months I was wondering if anybody can direct me or give advice on the course itself i.e where I can prepare myself in advance? I want to basically get studying now as I really want/need to pass this course!

    Many many thanks,
    RB.

    Scrap that guys. Profuse apologies everyone. My lazy eyes have located relevant material and answers.

    RB


  • #329
    Cole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Cole


    rentboy wrote: »
    I want to basically get studying now as I really want/need to pass this course!

    Don't stress too much about preparation. They realise that most people doing the course are far from experts on most of the grammar and anyway that's not really what you're assessed on.....it's your teaching practice classes.

    They will do a few sessions on different aspects of grammar, but that's more for your benefit rather than testing you....there were a lot of confused looking trainees when we were doing this.:) I think if you just brush up on very basic grammar, nouns, prounouns, adjectives etc. and the tenses, you'll be fine.

    As for passing...I don't know the statistics...but I think its very, very high. They're not trying to fail you, but want you to achieve a certain level of competence.

    You seem to be a conscientious student.....preparing beforehand, like myself;)...so I think you'll be fine. Good luck.


  • #330
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    Cole,

    Thanks a million for responding and your heads up is reassuring yet informative. I actually realised they ( International House Dublin ) have a reading list near the end of their 'Information for Applicants 2011' on their website. So, with your advice and others in this thread I shall scan through the aforementioned reading list. Thanks again Cole.

    RB.

    P.S For anybody looking for the course prep reading list by International House here is that link and it is on the top of page 11 ( Four books )

    http://www.ihdublin.com/ihdublin/Files/CELTA%20information%20application%20form%20and%20language%20task%202011%20%282%29%5B1%5D.pdf


  • Advertisement
  • #331
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    Hey everybody,

    For anybody that has successfully completed the CELTA course in International House In Dublin, I was wondering roughly how long it takes from the day you finish the course, to the day you actually physically get your CELTA certificate? I only ask as I want to be heading off to job hunt ( mainland Europe ) as soon as I finish the course, in August but more realistically September! Thanks for your help.

    rb


  • #332
    catweasel10
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭catweasel10


    rentboy wrote: »
    Hey everybody,

    For anybody that has successfully completed the CELTA course in International House In Dublin, I was wondering roughly how long it takes from the day you finish the course, to the day you actually physically get your CELTA certificate? I only ask as I want to be heading off to job hunt ( mainland Europe ) as soon as I finish the course, in August but more realistically September! Thanks for your help.

    rb

    Hey,
    I did it at IH Belfast, but thought this info might be of some use to you anyway. Finished on Friday, got a letter with my interim assessment grade and number of hours attended on the Monday. The certificate followed about 3 weeks later. I think you can use the letter while waiting on the certificate if you want to start job hunting. You should even have a look out for jobs while on the course!


  • #333
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    catweasel10 wrote: »
    Hey,
    I did it at IH Belfast, but thought this info might be of some use to you anyway. Finished on Friday, got a letter with my interim assessment grade and number of hours attended on the Monday. The certificate followed about 3 weeks later. I think you can use the letter while waiting on the certificate if you want to start job hunting. You should even have a look out for jobs while on the course!

    Thanks a million catweasel10, really appreciate that. Was just wondering what your initial interview for IH was like, if you had one, of course? I will be called for one soon and am really hoping to get onto the course and was wondering what the interview is like and what they ask.

    Thanks again for your reply.

    rb


  • #334
    Cole
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Cole


    rentboy wrote: »
    I will be called for one soon and am really hoping to get onto the course and was wondering what the interview is like and what they ask.

    From what I can remember, it was about 1/2 hour max. They gave me a short grammar "test" to complete and left me alone for a while. Most of the questions were along the lines of what is in the pre-course task (the never checked any of that btw) so just go through that and you'll be fine.

    It was more about them telling me how time consuming the course is....no life for 4 weeks etc. and ensuring that the trainees realise what's ahead. It might vary depeding on who interviews you. The person that I dealt with was fine, but a couple of other trainees had a less positive experience with the same person....a bit rude. I think that might have been because they were young and the interviewer tended to be a bit bossy....didn't try that with an oul fella like me;)

    They want you as much as you want them, imo. Demonstrate some basic competence of grammar and a bit of enthusiasm and you'll be just fine.


  • #335
    cerberos
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭cerberos


    Can anyone say in their opinion:
    which is the biggest EFL school in Dublin,
    the most prestigious,
    the best,
    the best for trainer courses
    the best for providing work options afterwards


  • #336
    E.E.T
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭E.E.T


    I hope to travel in the very near future. I would like the option to teach English perhaps however I am not sure if my qualifications can be used/ even recognised.
    Hopefully someone can shed some light...

    I am a fully qualified primary school teacher (B.Ed Hons) of three years.
    Before leaving college I did a week long TEFL course in the college and got an ACELS Preparatory TEFL Qualification for State Qualified Teachers. (I have not done the supervised teaching component, I have until the summer to do it...should I do it even?)
    My first teaching post was as an EAL teacher so I have plenty of experience in this area. Also as a mainstream class teacher I have taught children who have English as a second language.

    Do you think the above is enough to get me a job abroad? Or should I do CELT or CELTA etc?

    Thanking you for taking the time to read this.


  • Advertisement
  • #337
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,424 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Hi

    I signed up to the 120 hour course and have now completed the 60 hour online course part. They say that I now entitled to get certificate, but I still have the rest of the course to complete.

    Just want to know can i now look for jobs even with just this section done and is this the most important section that I have completed?

    Thanks all


  • #338
    catweasel10
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭catweasel10


    rentboy wrote: »
    Thanks a million catweasel10, really appreciate that. Was just wondering what your initial interview for IH was like, if you had one, of course? I will be called for one soon and am really hoping to get onto the course and was wondering what the interview is like and what they ask.

    Thanks again for your reply.

    rb
    Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I was given a pre-interview task before I had the interview and had to e-mail it back before being given an interview date/time. It wasn't too different from the pre-course assignment, just much shorter. It seems to be designed to get you thinking about the areas covered in the course, like how to explain what 'a dark horse' is, or identify and name different tenses. There was also a section on why you want to do the course. I'm not sure if Dublin have the same interview style as Belfast, but it really isn't anything to worry about. The interview was grand and the DoS was absolutely lovely and put me at ease immediately. She went through my answers for the pre-interview task, and we had a chat about the course and where you go after it. Basically, I think the interview is designed to let you know how demanding the course is, and that you'll have to dedicate most of your waking hours to it for the four weeks. Some people think that they can work and do the course at the same time- it would be almost impossible! If you don't have someone to look after practical stuff, like having meals ready, during the course, my advice would be to freeze a load of meals. I know it sounds silly, but when you're zonked after a day in school and have an assignment or a lesson plan to prepare, it makes a huge difference to your stress levels. Feel free to PM me if you want any more info, and best of luck! It's a lot of work in a short space of time, but it can be good craic.

    Just saw that the question had already been answered! Oops!


  • #339
    wonton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wonton


    Dam i'm finding this all quite confusing.

    could anyone that knows tell me what the main difference qualification and recognition wise with these courses?

    Is the main difference just different names for basically the same thing?

    so if I done the celt 160 hour course in dun laoghaire would that be recognised in other countries as a good qualification?

    or are one of the other ones better?


  • #340
    dapto1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭dapto1


    wonton wrote: »
    Dam i'm finding this all quite confusing.

    could anyone that knows tell me what the main difference qualification and recognition wise with these courses?

    Is the main difference just different names for basically the same thing?

    so if I done the celt 160 hour course in dun laoghaire would that be recognised in other countries as a good qualification?

    or are one of the other ones better?

    The CELTA and CELT courses are very similar, but the CELTA is more recognised internationally.


  • #341
    catweasel10
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭catweasel10


    Wonton,

    As far as I know, the CELT is fairly similar to the CELTA content wise. The CELTA is the better known of the two, so if you did the CELT, you may have to explain the qualification to prospective employers. The main difference, from what I've gathered, is that the awarding bodies are different.


  • Advertisement
  • #342
    dapto1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭dapto1


    catweasel10 wrote: »
    if you did the CELT, you may have to explain the qualification to prospective employers.

    That's if you even get that far! A lot of places abroad won't even consider you unless you have a CELTA. Especially in Australia and some parts of Europe and Asia.


  • #343
    E.E.T
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭E.E.T


    E.E.T wrote: »
    I hope to travel in the very near future. I would like the option to teach English perhaps however I am not sure if my qualifications can be used/ even recognised.
    Hopefully someone can shed some light...

    I am a fully qualified primary school teacher (B.Ed Hons) of three years.
    Before leaving college I did a week long TEFL course in the college and got an ACELS Preparatory TEFL Qualification for State Qualified Teachers. (I have not done the supervised teaching component, I have until the summer to do it...should I do it even?)
    My first teaching post was as an EAL teacher so I have plenty of experience in this area. Also as a mainstream class teacher I have taught children who have English as a second language.

    Do you think the above is enough to get me a job abroad? Or should I do CELT or CELTA etc?

    Thanking you for taking the time to read this.

    Bump! Anyone have any ideas?


  • #344
    catweasel10
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭catweasel10


    E.E.T wrote: »
    Bump! Anyone have any ideas?

    I know a few qualified teachers who taught abroad without a CELTA, but this was a few years ago. I think it might depend on the school. Maybe you could send out a few CVs to test the waters?


  • #345
    cavanmaniac
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭cavanmaniac


    E.E.T wrote: »
    I am a fully qualified primary school teacher (B.Ed Hons) of three years.
    Before leaving college I did a week long TEFL course in the college and got an ACELS Preparatory TEFL Qualification for State Qualified Teachers. (I have not done the supervised teaching component, I have until the summer to do it...should I do it even?)
    My first teaching post was as an EAL teacher so I have plenty of experience in this area. Also as a mainstream class teacher I have taught children who have English as a second language.

    Do you think the above is enough to get me a job abroad? Or should I do CELT or CELTA etc?

    Thanking you for taking the time to read this.

    I think you're more than qualified. As a licenced teacher, you should easily be able to secure a job teaching at an International School (schools in foreign countries that educate locals and immigrants through English), so you wouldn't necessarily have to just consider TEFL.

    If you would prefer to just teach English, then you're still in a good position I think. You have your teaching licence and some experience which would get you a job in a flash in Korea, probably slightly better paid with your credentials. Here in Korea, all you need is a degree really for a basic job so you could get better or even look in other countries. Your B.Ed places you well ahead of 95% of TEFLers out there, so exploit it.

    If the supervised teaching component of your ACELS cert is all you have left to do for the full qualification, then I say do it. Then you have everthing you need for teaching abroad; degree (and an Education degree at that), genuine classroom experience and a good quality cert with observed teaching practice (a stipulation for most of the better TEFL jobs out there).

    So you're in a great position overall!


  • #346
    See Ye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭See Ye


    You've got a good lot of information already. Some prospective language schools in Europe would take you over someone unqualified but someone with a full CELTA/CELT would be taken ahead of you - especially for dealing with adults or business English.

    PS I'm personally jealous of your breadth of experience btw, it's just that in non-English speaking countries here isn't much EAL and places aiming at the business market may see experience with kids as a disadvantage in my experience.


  • #347
    Mossanova
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭Mossanova


    Geansai Rua wrote: »
    Thanks squeakyduck.

    Im currently undecided between the CELTA course in International House and the CELT course in DSE.

    There is a considerable difference in price, wondering if the extra 700euro would be worth it with the CELTA. In terms of getting a job in Ireland for a while and then abroad.

    Both are held in August so that is good for me!

    2 friends of mine did the CELT course and are now teaching abroad, I'm pretty sure they did the course in Bray, if that's any use? here is there link, http://www.languagecollegeireland.com/tefl-training.html
    best of luck with the degree, hope this helps


  • #348
    rentboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ✭rentboy


    Hi Everyone,

    Sorry for the late notice but have an interview coming up for International House Dublin, CELTA course. That really cheap and affordable one ;) Was just wondering can anybody give me some last minute tips, anything whatsoever. The receptionist stated that it would last for approximately an hour.

    Many Thanks,
    rb.


  • #349
    roisin24
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭roisin24


    Can anyone tell me if you can get the Back To Education Allowance while doing a full-time 4 week CELT course?


  • #350
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ESL Forum Request.. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056303255


  • #351
    Seamo87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Seamo87


    Has anyone done the CELT course in the Cork Language Centre http://www.corklanguagecentre.ie/ ?

    If so, could you just tell me if it's any good/worthwhile? Are they a good provider of the CELT course.

    Thanks in advance...


  • Advertisement
Advertisement