German Shepard Breeders.

Wonda-Boy · 18-05-2019 1:38pm #1

I would be very grateful if anyone has any information on very good reputable breeders for a GS puppy, especially if have used them already. I am looking to get a male puppy in the next month or so and I am currently puppy proofing my house and getting my yard etc sorted.

I am in Meath but would not mind travelling at all for the right dog from the right breeder. So any advice as to what to look for when selecting a GSD pup and what to look for in the parents.

Also, any GSD owners out there with any adivce on GSD in general aswell as puppies, it would be greatly appreciated as I want the best for the dog and hope it settles in very quickly.

Thanx again.

DBB · 18-05-2019 2:08pm

Hi op,
It kinda, sorta depends on what you want from your dog? Family pet? Guard dog? (it's almost impossible to get the two reliably in one dog, although even the gentlest of sheps will bark at strangers or unusual goings-on). Show dog? Working dog?
Long coated? Short coated? (huge difference in coat maintenance)
Dog to live in or out? They're a breed that tends to get turfed out to live long hours alone, but I've always found them to really, really crave proximity with their people and they really suffer if left outside.
I have two working sheps. They both live inside the house. They are blissfully happy and content dogs

Cherry Blossom · 18-05-2019 2:10pm

Can opened.

Worms everywhere.

Cherry Blossom · 18-05-2019 2:22pm

Sorry,

My brother has a working straight backed GSD. He got him from his father in law who happened to have two dogs they never bothered to neuter. He's a placid enough dog with people he knows but has been known to corner strangers in the yard if they wander in uninvited and refuses to let them pass him to leave again. He has also killed a sheep and a cat that wandered into his space. In all the above incidents they occurred while he was on a long chain in the late evening or during the night. He's great with the kids in his own house but I would not leave visiting kids to wander around the yard while he's there not that kids should be unsupervised around any dog but I'd be hesitant even with supervision. He is also undersocialised with other dogs and has pinned the neighbours dog to the ground once and has pulled one of my dogs legs out from under him twice when he was running across my garden.

Wonda-Boy · 18-05-2019 2:59pm

Ideally I want a companion not just for myself but for my family, if it deters other from entering my property then that's a plus!

If possible I would want it outdoors at night time in a nice cozy kennel (unless the weather is really bad) in a secure back garden but interact with the family unit all day every day.

I really dont think a dog should be sitting on the sofa all day watching TV with humans, they are alot happier out and about investigating the world!

Not sure on the coats, I suppose a short haired would look better to me but please feel free to link me the difference on the two breeds for more research. Dog will not be a working dog just a family dog that will enjoy walks and swims etc.

Its quite stressful trying to find the right breeder, have heard so many horror stories of GSD with terrbible blood lines that end up in chronic pain etc etc.
So dont want to chose the wrong pup, also not sure if I want a male or female......the females look softer and are smaller but being in heat is a nightmate tbh. So a male GSD might be a better fit.

Richard tea · 18-05-2019 3:25pm

Best off checking out the kennel club and http://gsaireland.com/ for breeders etc. I know you want a pup soon but to be honest most reputable breeders that are due pups will have already agreed to sell to clients. I think I was waiting near a year before I got my pup from a breeder I have used before.

I cant stress this enough but when you do get a pup have it socialised as much as possible. Walks to the shops, passing traffic, crowded areas etc. My lad is 1.5 years old now and still acts like a pup from time to time.

They chew everything and I mean everything. Remember my first gsd tore the mudguard off my bike..... My current lad has taken to chewing the drain pipe off out the back garden when food stuff is been drained. There is a reason they are called land sharks etc. Its all about puppy proofing the garden/house etc

As for training the pup check out some trainers on youtube etc. This can be an emotive subject so dont be swayed by either side.

Check out

https://www.youtube.com/user/leerburg Michael ellis
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-qnqaajTk6bfs3UZuue6IQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoxuNKpmUs390K7x_rvgjcg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vdCX3-G6oDGajvQFreLLA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-TFajjG5CMAmUrJG1ONtKQ

Try and get to some of the dog shows that are on soon. This is where you will meet the experts and find out who is breeding and due pups etc.

Choc Chip · 18-05-2019 4:07pm

Hey OP, DBB is a wealth of info on GSDs. I don't know too much, but just to give my 2 cents on a couple of your comments:

"If possible I would want it outdoors at night time in a nice cozy kennel (unless the weather is really bad) in a secure back garden but interact with the family unit all day every day."

I do know working dogs that live happily outside, but they spend the day working with their people. If it's a family pet and you work, how much time will you realistically be able to spend with a dog if it sleeps outside? Also, my GSD-cross is far more of a burglar deterrent from inside the house than living outside in a kennel.

"I really dont think a dog should be sitting on the sofa all day watching TV with humans, they are alot happier out and about investigating the world!"

My GSD-cross is obsessed with me. I normally work from home and she spends most of the day in the doorway of my office, even when the back door is open. She's not particularly cuddly but she spends 90% of her life in the same room as me, just keeping an eye on me from the corner. She would be absolutely gutted if she was sent outside 'investigating' and wasn't allowed to chill out and lie under the tv (with her head propped up so she can open her eyes and see me)!

Richard Tea: That is an interesting range of dog trainers.... from Kiko to Michael Ellis?

DBB · 18-05-2019 7:46pm

Just because they're indoor doesn't mean they've to lie on the furniture watching tv! Mine don't get up on the furniture. Neither are they particularly interested in investigating outside unless I'm with them. They just want to be in my vicinity, doing whatever I'm doing, or supervising whatever I'm doing

Do not underestimate the loyalty and devotion of the GSD op... They really do suffer if left alone, and realistically, it's a very rare thing that a pet dog owner who keeps the dog outside, gives it enough attention every day of the year. As choc chip points out, working dogs that are kept outside generally enjoy human company for long hours during the day... They're working together. But pet dogs? Way too easy to let them drop down the list of priorities in the middle of winter, in the peeing rain, and the kids have to get their homework/music lessons/family time done... Inside.
It has also been my overwhelming experience over years of training dogs, that pet dogs who live outside are usually vastly undertrained, and when people do head out to them, or on the odd occasion they're let inside, they get so overawed and excited that they're promptly left alone outside again. Having dog live inside forces you to train it well, and it pays off in huge bucketfuls with such devoted and clever dogs as the GSD.
I've had 3 GSDs from the same lines, and will always have them, because they are utterly bulletproof with everyone and everything. They are laid back, easygoing, gentle to a fault, there quite simply isn't a bad bone in their bodies. They'll still bark at strangers though, but it wouldn't even occur to them to do harm to anyone. I've posted about them before... They're from a line that's really designed to be a PET dog, but can be used for work if need be. They're originally from working lines. They're healthy, straight-backed, great hips, some problems with lower back pain later in life (they're huge dogs, even the females are 40kg+). I've put a fair few people onto this line of GSDs, and I've yet to hear one single complaint... But again, they're all bought with the deal that they're not going to be living outside.
For the record, I wouldn't touch a GSD from show lines. Dodgy both physically and mentally.

Zapperzy · 18-05-2019 8:03pm

Family members got a pup from 'working' lines and the poor thing is a ball of stress and energy. The breeder bred for security and attack dogs and kept the pups in a pen out the back of an unoccupied house, boasted about being able to leave the doors unlocked 24/7. The dog was then sent for 'residential training' down in louth.

He's a beautiful dog with a lovely temperment but is seriously high energy, wound up and a lot of hard work. He unsocialised with other dogs and therefore will chase and pin down other dogs, he's also killed a fox that wandered into his garden. Wouldn't trust him with cats or small dogs. He's also had bad skin issues, hair loss and weight loss, I've no doubt linked in some way to stress/anxiety.

On the positive side he's a straight backed gsd and seems to have no other health issues. No issues with his hips.

He's definitely an example of a poor breeder mixed with a poor trainer. Not sure if that breeder is still operating, hope not, they were in mayo.

Wonda-Boy · 19-05-2019 1:32pm

Forgot all about that beast you had RT....thanks for all the advice. I am heading to Portlaoise Rugby Club on the 25th as there is a huge show on so I am hoping to see some beautiful dogs there and possibly get a heads up on some breeders.

Thanx again.

Wonda-Boy · 19-05-2019 1:43pm

I currently stay at home minding the little fella so I will be around 24/7, so the dog will not be left alone for long periods of time.

Its not un-realistic to have the dog outside in the back at night and then be with the family in house etc for the rest of the day surely??

Cant thank you enough for all the help, I can tell from the posts how passionate you all are towards your dogs its great to see, from what I have seen online and from reading up I think I will be going for a male pup, short haired from a working line.

Another thing I would like to ask is the idea of feeding the dog a pure RAW Food diet, from what I have read and from alot of really good breeders online they are all for it. Obviously I am not just taking meat, I know you need to add other substitutes like fruit and supplements (cod liver oil, green tripe etc).

Richard tea · 19-05-2019 2:37pm

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

I currently stay at home minding the little fella so I will be around 24/7, so the dog will not be left alone for long periods of time.

Its not un-realistic to have the dog outside in the back at night and then be with the family in house etc for the rest of the day surely??

Cant thank you enough for all the help, I can tell from the posts how passionate you all are towards your dogs its great to see, from what I have seen online and from reading up I think I will be going for a male pup, short haired from a working line.

Another thing I would like to ask is the idea of feeding the dog a pure RAW Food diet, from what I have read and from alot of really good breeders online they are all for it. Obviously I am not just taking meat, I know you need to add other substitutes like fruit and supplements (cod liver oil, green tripe etc).

My 2 cents regarding raw. I fed raw from about 5 months onwards. After reading up it just made sense that it was the best quality compared to any kibble/nut brand. It was a bonus at the time when I started raw feeding that raw feeding would actually be cheaper than the expensive kibble brands. Sadly this has changed in recent months. The price of raw has risen and I cant see it slowing down. There are some very good FB raw feeding groups and these are great for info and feeding guides.

Just to give you a rough idea a full grown male gsd will probably need 1kg of raw per day (1.3kg if very active). Your looking at about E3.60 per kilo at the lower end rising to over E5.00 for the fancy stuff. To be honest you prob get better deals with human grade foods in supermarkets and the likes. Tesco bargain fridge can be great. I have recently switch to half and half. He gets kibble in the morning and 500g raw in the evening.

Just to add my last fella was fed with LIDL brand kibble and never had a sick day in the 10 years he was around.

Wonda-Boy · 19-05-2019 6:31pm

One of the links that you posted had some lady talking about half and half aswell, so does another very good website. I think if you buy are really good expensive kibble that is non wheat or grain (i think) and use it like you say is a very good idea. Maybe a fish oil based kibble to get the balance with the meats.

I dont think I would be getting dog specific RAW food, I would just be getting as you said tesco and the like chicken, beef and liver etc from the butchers.

tk123 · 21-05-2019 10:21am

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

I dont think I would be getting dog specific RAW food, I would just be getting as you said tesco and the like chicken, beef and liver etc from the butchers.

You need to make sure whatever raw diet you're feeding is balanced eh the right percentage of meat/bone/offal - especially for a large breed pup. Also you won't save that much buying from Tescos or butchers(!). When Lucy was a pup eating us out of house and home I bulked her raw completes out with Rocco Junior from zoo plus to cut coats down - she was on over 1kg a day at one stage

Dubs1990 · 21-05-2019 6:12pm

Another working line german shepherd owner here ! I feed half raw half Rocco dog food , it works well he'll get mince , chicken legs , salmon heads , kidney liver etc and also a tin of food . I am not going to lie , my lad does be out the back , not all day just when I need him too with the baby running around. Also he runs with me and is walked daily so is generally chilled out ! He sleeps inside , woke me up at 3am last night with 2 girls getting out of a taxi , that's the sort of dog I always want ! Peace of mind knowing he's there to alert aswell. I would recommend the breeder I got him off if you want his number . He's as gentle around people and has a very good personality. But as a pup be prepared for the nipping !

Wonda-Boy · 22-05-2019 2:29pm

Cheers for the input, PM sent for breeders number.

BTW,

Is that Rocco food dry kibble or wet dog food?

tk123 · 22-05-2019 2:40pm

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Cheers for the input, PM sent for breeders number.

BTW,

Is that Rocco food dry kibble or wet dog food?

It's wet and luckily for us with large breeds it comes in 800g cans! :pac::pac::pac:

That's the saver pack - you can but smaller amounts too though :
https://www.zooplus.ie/shop/dogs/canned_dog_food/rocco/rocco_junior/154073

They have covers that fit the big cans too :
https://www.zooplus.ie/shop/cats/cat_bowls_feeders/storage/127528

Richard tea · 22-05-2019 3:24pm

tk123 wrote: »

It's wet and luckily for us with large breeds it comes in 800g cans! :pac::pac::pac:

That's the saver pack - you can but smaller amounts too though :
https://www.zooplus.ie/shop/dogs/canned_dog_food/rocco/rocco_junior/154073

They have covers that fit the big cans too :
https://www.zooplus.ie/shop/cats/cat_bowls_feeders/storage/127528

I wasnt aware of Rocco. Do you find it to be good quality? coat still shiney? Would I be right in saying it does not contain bone?

Dubs1990 · 22-05-2019 5:38pm

Richard tea wrote: »

I wasnt aware of Rocco. Do you find it to be good quality? coat still shiney? Would I be right in saying it does not contain bone?

Ye I find it good quality , the poultry hearts tin you can actually see the small hearts ! Dont think it contains bone , but never looked as my lad gets enough bone eating his chicken legs.

tk123 · 23-05-2019 11:09am

There's no bone in it. I tend to stick to the sensitive one - it's my emergency food if Bailey is having a pancreatitis flare up. I've also used it between deliveries when I ran out of boneless chunks so served it with wings/necks/carcass etc etc

Wonda-Boy · 23-05-2019 1:07pm

I see you can also get it with Green Tripe....that would be excellent. Seems to be sold out alot (for good reason too).

Cheers lads.

Wonda-Boy · 26-05-2019 1:54pm

Was at the GSD dog show in Portlaoise yesterday, was not the event I taught it was going to be (quite small and local). It was advertised as the All Ireland GSD show so I taught it would be huge with shops and stalls etc.

Never the less there were some absolutely stunning dogs there, I really could not believe the lengths the owners were doing to win lol. Some good some very under handed......one clown was setting off his car alarm every time the other dog was getting examined by judge if his dog was in the event!!!!

Was also a rare pure black GSD that won everything it was in for....judge said it was a prime example of a GSD.

tk123 · 26-05-2019 3:28pm

There was actually GSD puppy at the vets yesterday....terrified little thing

And not chipped or vaccinated either. Choose your breeder wisely OP

Wonda-Boy · 26-05-2019 4:50pm

I am trying but I taught it would be alot easier to find a good one, so far I only know of two near me (Priderock Kennels Enfield & Karlshrue Kennel in Kildare) and a good tip from a use in here.

I have had no dealing with either and dont know of anyone who has had dealings with them, but the lady from Karlshrue Kennels had a few dos on show on Portlaoise and they were stunning.

Not too much advertising on Facebook either for GSDs.

eoin.d · 29-05-2019 10:32am

Wonda-Boy wrote:

I am trying but I taught it would be alot easier to find a good one, so far I only know of two near me (Priderock Kennels Enfield & Karlshrue Kennel in Kildare) and a good tip from a use in here.

Any luck locating a pup?
Im on the lookout myself

Wonda-Boy · 29-05-2019 1:40pm

Not yet mate, kinda reserved to getting one later in the year from a kennel that a litter it due.

I have one more chap to ring....fingers crossed.

Cherry Blossom · 29-05-2019 1:58pm

It is not unusual to have to wait over a year for a pup OP. Please be patient. You choose the best breeder according to your own criteria then wait.

eoin.d · 29-05-2019 9:58pm

Mind me asking which breeder you went with

Wonda-Boy · 30-05-2019 11:49am

The two kennels I have contacted that have litters due the end of year are:-

Priderock Kennels (Enfield)

Karlsrhue Kennels (Kildare)

VonVix · 30-05-2019 4:19pm

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

The two kennels I have contacted that have litters due the end of year are:-

Priderock Kennels (Enfield)

Karlsrhue Kennels (Kildare)

A know and handle a boy from the second kennels mentioned, out of Ash-Indie. Stunning stable boy, fabulous temperament, loves people and in great health the years I've known him. He is lively and energetic, not a couch potato dog, wants to work/do something and needs his human to want to do something with him. If he's anything to go by, they have great dogs.

maryedmoore · 19-09-2019 4:16pm

Hi has anybody dealt with Priderock kennels on here? I bought a pup few days ago from them in Paulstown Kilkenny. Their website s very misleading. I dont know when it was last updated and basically I dont know if I can trust them. They tell me they no longer register their pups and the parents either. My boys fell in love with pup and we bought anyway, but paid way too much I feel for an unregistered dog. The They dont microchip either. Any advice please?

cocker5 · 19-09-2019 4:54pm

maryedmoore wrote: »

Hi has anybody dealt with Priderock kennels on here? I bought a pup few days ago from them in Paulstown Kilkenny. Their website s very misleading. I dont know when it was last updated and basically I dont know if I can trust them. They tell me they no longer register their pups and the parents either. My boys fell in love with pup and we bought anyway, but paid way too much I feel for an unregistered dog. The They dont microchip either. Any advice please?

But that's a legal requirement?
did you know this before you left with the pup?

They told you they no longer register etc and you still purchased the pup?
Did you ask to see hip scoring, genetic testing? very important given the breed and issues they are prone too (hip dysplasia etc)

tk123 · 19-09-2019 6:21pm

maryedmoore wrote: »

Hi has anybody dealt with Priderock kennels on here? I bought a pup few days ago from them in Paulstown Kilkenny. Their website s very misleading. I dont know when it was last updated and basically I dont know if I can trust them. They tell me they no longer register their pups and the parents either. My boys fell in love with pup and we bought anyway, but paid way too much I feel for an unregistered dog. The They dont microchip either. Any advice please?

He should have been chipped before being sold.. but look what's done is done - would you give the pup back? I'm going to assume not as the kids love him!! Get insurance and get him into a good puppy training/socialisation class. My experience of badly bred retrievers is that they either have behavioural or joint issues... or both(!) so cover your bases!

Cherry Blossom · 19-09-2019 8:51pm

maryedmoore wrote: »

Any advice please?

Ill be honest here, there is not much point asking for advice after you have bought the pup. Generally the advice is if you feel something is not right then walk away. All too often people start googling after the fact. Its probably too late then. What are you looking for advice on? Who to report them to for selling unchipped puppies? Advice on how to go about returning the pup? Advice on how to minimise risks with regard to temperament or health? Something else?

maryedmoore · 19-09-2019 11:11pm

Cherry Blossom wrote: »

Ill be honest here, there is not much point asking for advice after you have bought the pup. Generally the advice is if you feel something is not right then walk away. All too often people start googling after the fact. Its probably too late then. What are you looking for advice on? Who to report them to for selling unchipped puppies? Advice on how to go about returning the pup? Advice on how to minimise risks with regard to temperament or health? Something else?

Suppose looking for somebody Who has dealt with them. They claim on website to be breeding straight backs over 20 years and that they have a waiting list for pups even though they dont advertise. Their reputation sells the pups. Has anybody bought from them?

Cherry Blossom · 19-09-2019 11:21pm

Im not sure what difference it will make to your situation if you find someone else who has bought from them. You are not looking for a recommendation as you have already bought the puppy. If someone comes along and says something negative it is likely the thread will disappear as that would open us up to legal action.

Focus on the pup you have now and giving him/her the best life you can.

DBB · 19-09-2019 11:39pm

maryedmoore wrote: »

Suppose looking for somebody Who has dealt with them. They claim on website to be breeding straight backs over 20 years and that they have a waiting list for pups even though they dont advertise. Their reputation sells the pups. Has anybody bought from them?

What difference does it make? You have the pup now and have not indicated you're going to do anything about your experience. With all due respect, you did a number of the things that people are strongly recommended not to do when buying a pup... information that's abundantly available on the internet, even in this forum. When you're buying a pup, it is caveat emptor, which places an extra onus on the buyer to make bloody sure they're doing everything they can do to make sure the pup is coming from a legit source.
A legit source is one that doesn't flout State laws... it is illegal to sell or pass on a puppy or dog that is not microchipped.
Did you go to the kennel to pick your pup up? I wonder were you happy with what you saw?
I've never been inclined to believe that a place has a "reputation" if it is a self-declared reputation.

ILoveYourVibes · 21-09-2019 10:32pm

Congrats OP i adore german shepards. They are really big cuddly teddies. And they are great with kids.

I grew up around them but I don't know any breeders though sorry.

Son · 23-09-2019 3:01pm

Interested in a gs myself but looking for a dog past the puppy stage. Its pretty hard to find a young adult dog (good/healthy etc). Enquired about some rescues but rescue centres seem hard to deal with, saying experience of breed needed, can't be left home for more than 4hrs, has to live inside etc etc so I've kinda givin up on that route which is a shame cause I've seen a few rescues that I know I could give a good home but hey ho
I'll probably end up going to UK as donedeal full of all sorts.

Cherry Blossom · 23-09-2019 3:13pm

Rescues are not trying to be awkward, they are just trying to find the best home possible for their dogs so they dont end up coming back to them. Realistically 5 star dogs go to 5 star homes. If you cannot offer a good home you need to consider that you cannot be picky. You say you want to avoid donedeal because of allsorts, rescues and breeders of quality dogs also want to avoid their dogs goings to allsorts. I appreciate this is not what you want to hear, but thats how it is.

cocker5 · 23-09-2019 3:18pm

Son wrote: »

Interested in a gs myself but looking for a dog past the puppy stage. Its pretty hard to find a young adult dog (good/healthy etc). Enquired about some rescues but rescue centres seem hard to deal with, saying experience of breed needed, can't be left home for more than 4hrs, has to live inside etc etc.
I'll probably end up going to UK as donedeal full of all sorts.

There are number of GS in rescue centre all over the country - you have to understand rescue centres are not being difficult to deal with they have the dogs best interest at heart.

Saying experience with the breed - surely this makes sense GS can be strong powerful dogs and having knowledge or owning one previously helps the adopter with any "expectations" they may have etc..

same for the 4 hours a day / sleep indoors comment - lots of dogs in rescues centres may have been dumped outside 24/7 or have separation issues ..

at the end of the day the rescue centres only want the best for the dog and the adopting outcome process.... hence they have requirements

Son · 23-09-2019 3:27pm

cocker5 wrote: »

There are number of GS in rescue centre all over the country - you have to understand rescue centres are not being difficult to deal with they have the dogs best interest at heart.

Saying experience with the breed - surely this makes sense GS can be strong powerful dogs and having knowledge or owning one previously helps the adopter with any "expectations" they may have etc..

same for the 4 hours a day / sleep indoors comment - lots of dogs in rescues centres may have been dumped outside 24/7 or have separation issues ..

at the end of the day the rescue centres only want the best for the dog and the adopting outcome process.... hence they have requirements

I understand, thats fine, if I buy from a classified site well id still be rescuing, just in a different way

cocker5 · 23-09-2019 3:33pm

Son wrote: »

I understand, thats fine, if I buy from a classified site well id still be rescuing, just in a different way

100% incorrect.. you'll be paying a "breeder" or greeder as they are usually referred to... they usually couldn't care less where the dog ends up and long as you cough up the dough....your not rescuing anything

no decent or ethical breeder sells via these sites... they don't need to they have waiting lists for their pups... In fact you will be directly fuelling the back yard breeder and puppy farm industry here in Ireland

Son · 23-09-2019 3:39pm

cocker5 wrote: »

100% incorrect.. you'll be paying a "breeder" or greeder as they are usually referred to... they usually couldn't care less where the dog ends up and long as you cough up the dough....your not rescuing anything

no decent or ethical breeder sells via these sites... they don't need to they have waiting lists for their pups... In fact you will be directly fuelling the back yard breeder and puppy farm industry here in Ireland

Not looking to buy a pup. I've contacted a few breeders but they only have pups or very expensive 'trained dogs' and I think your wrong theres many good older dogs out there that people sell because their circumstances change in life or they develop health issues themselves and can't look after the dog well enough, so I would see that as rescuing of a different kind

cocker5 · 23-09-2019 3:53pm

Son wrote: »

Not looking to buy a pup. I've contacted a few breeders but they only have pups or very expensive 'trained dogs' and I think your wrong theres many good older dogs out there that people sell because their circumstances change in life or they develop heal

Well if your not looking to buy a pup why not go via the rescue route?

Many rescue centres review a dog temperament and some have a history etc... so they can match the right dog with the right owner

"buying" from adverts, donedeal you have no idea what the dog has been through, behaviour etc... and no the "owners" aren't going to tell you the truth, and many times dogs will have appeared numerous times on these sites been passed around ...

going via a reputable rescue centre you will have support, advice and god forbid something happens you have to give the dog back to the rescue .. not just dump it back on adverts ... again.

no decent dog owners would "sell" their beloved pet via social media or donedeal .. regardless of the situation.. its the age old Irish mentality "easy come easy go" when it comes to pet ownership... you are niave to think otherwise OP.. for every 1 sincere person on these sites there are 100's of g*****es not fit to own a dog

Mrs cockett · 23-09-2019 4:07pm

[QUOTE=maryedmoore;11129174 My boys fell in love with pup and we bought anyway, but paid way too much I feel for an unregistered dog. The They dont microchip either.

Enjoy him,
Give him lots of toys, kongs are great for chewing on. Get him out as much as possible while young so as he gets used to children and other animals. Discourage nipping.
You will have a wonderful pet and guard dog.

maryedmoore · 26-10-2019 10:43am

I have been stung. My puppy got ill after a week and nearly died with worm infestation. “Breeder” doesn’t want to know. Vet bill of €1,00.00. Got ill before we got chance to take out insurance. Thankfully on the mend now. “breeder” shut down website. When I contacted him for reimbursement of vet bill he replied and he will not comment further and has sought legal, vetenary and ISPCA advice on the matter.

Cherry Blossom · 26-10-2019 1:29pm

maryedmoore, please be aware that if you intend to persue a legal case, posting about it on an online forum could damage your chances of a good result for yourself.

maryedmoore · 26-10-2019 2:39pm

Cherry Blossom wrote: »

maryedmoore, please be aware that if you intend to persue a legal case, posting about it on an online forum could damage your chances of a good result for yourself.

Ok, thanks

murfler · 16-10-2020 5:53pm

Hi I realise this is an old post. I'm just wondering did anyone ever get a pup from deltaorion kennel in Dublin? Strongly thinking of buying a bitch from there and would love any feedback. They are pricey but seem to have well bred dogs. Any information would be greatly appreciated, good or bad. Thank you

VonVix · 16-10-2020 6:43pm

murfler wrote: »

Any information would be greatly appreciated, good or bad. Thank you

Had a look at their page and all I see is puppies, puppies, puppies. No mention of parents other than their name, no mention of health tests, no mention of temperament, no mention of them competing in any form. DM clear? Hip/elbow scores? Etc? No mention of lineage beyond the parents.

Looks like just another backyard breeder trying to capitalize on covid19.

German Shepard Breeders.

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