Ted Heath Paedophile Investigation

Reg'stoy wrote: »

Satanic undertones to the abuse, no. Do I believe that the abuse happened, yes. The abuse mentioned in the news article was carried out by genuinely evil people but not devil worship evil; just evil, heartless uncaring people who were in places of trust and allowed to carry out the horrible acts.

I agree absolutely with you when you say it doesn't matter about devil worshipers or not, the horrible thing is these people as I said were in positions of trust and their acts were either ignored or simply allowed to happen because the children involved were considered the dregs of society. That is the horrible crime, these children were a problem and were viewed as livestock of no use to any one. Thankfully today it shouldn't happen but our elderly up until recently were similarly treated; because they were a problem.

The thing is, when jones and icke talk of satanic rituals people rightly scoff. Children and adults are trafficked to become sex workers not because of devil worshippers but because they are a commodity pure and simple. Some sick individual may carry out acts that you speak off but they are in the tiny minority. The real evil of the person who pays to have sex with a child is present in our 'normal' society. While jones and icke rant about satanic rituals they ignore the ordinary man and woman who commit the vast majority of these horrible crimes; why do they ignore them, because there is already an abundance of books and main stream news about them and they want to make some money.

They doublely abuse these children by telling them that their abuse was not bad enough but that they were also an offering to some demon. Pedophile rings do exist because they share and also gain strength and courage from each other. To call them satanist gives them almost an excuse, they weren't abusing the children because they wanted to, they were simply carrying out an act which children happened to be a part of. They are evil enough without offering them a cloak to hide under.

I agree with most of what you say

I dont believe everything Jones or Icke or anybody for that matter has to say but you will find some nuggets of truth in there
You slate Jones and Icke for ignoring the non famous child abusers because the MSM had it covered and there was no interest it wouldn't sell books

But the fact of the matter is they were the ones exposing the elite abusers where were the MSM they also knew what was going on

And I think you are missing the whole point that the child abusers and cover up merchants that are in the spotlight on alternative media are the ones that make laws,draw up budgets,run TV stations,start illegal wars,that kill and maim many more children
Does the ordinary child abuser hold such power I dont think so
Does it make a difference to the child if their abuser is a politician,carpenter priest ,family member I cant say
But it makes a hell of a difference to the rest of the population who put these people in positions of power dont you think

Reg'stoy wrote: »

They doublely abuse these children by telling them that their abuse was not bad enough but that they were also an offering to some demon.

I have been following the stories of some of the survivors in all this. They all twitter between themselves and others. I cant recall them speaking out about Icke or Jones

But one has seen fit to reply a couple of MSM mouthpieces

The Edward Heath witch hunt is the stuff of Hitler's dreams
If it wasn’t so horrific, all this would be entertaining

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11784844/The-Edward-Heath-witch-hunt-is-the-stuff-of-Hitlers-dreams.html

It’s not entertaining, it’s child abuse – my message to Dan Hodges, Daily Telegraph

I read with interest an article from Dan Hodges at the Daily Telegraph, and he started his article by basically taking the piss out of the allegations about Edward Heath. He wants to know when it’s going to end and questions if this is who we are or who we want to be.

But should we be asking if we should continue to keep child abuse secret, is this really who we as a society want to be? Do we really want to live under the mistaken belief that child abuse does not happen, or that celebrities, people with influence and power etc are just not capable of committing such crimes.

Now Mr Hodges doesn’t believe that there are any victims of Mr Heath but is is also gracious enough to say he will admit if he is wrong if necessary (thanks for that). But why print such words in the first place and why does a national newspaper print it. This choice of words can discourage people from coming forward and speaking out about what happened to them.

So I say this to you Mr Hodges, have you any idea, any idea at all of just what it takes to tell someone that you have been abused as a child? Do you have any idea of the effects that abuse leave you with, the issues that survivors have to deal with every single day? I am a survivor of child abuse, the things that happened to me you would not be able to comprehend but actually I don’t expect your first thought to be for victims of abuse, what I do expect is for you to at least respect people as individuals, respect what they have to say and let the police do their job to ascertain where the evidence is. It is not your place to say that an individual survivor of child abuse is mistaken etc, in fact how could you possibly know? You were not there, so you have no place making such judgments as to what did or didn’t take place.

I don’t expect you to understand or to care, but I kept quiet about the abuse that was happening to me because of the fear the men instilled in me. Fear that you probably can’t imagine and I hope you never experience. I was 7 years old when the abuse started, some of my abusers are dead, some are alive. So is it simply not the right thing to do to investigate all those that committed the abuse? Don’t we owe it to children today to make sure lessons are learnt from past abuse cases to make sure it can’t happen again?

Over 8 million people in the UK today have experienced abuse as a child, and we as a society should be encouraging them to come forward and speak out about their experience. Your article just criticises them for coming forward. Child abuse flourishes with the silence it generates, don’t add to that with your words you have said today. You are in a privileged position, you write words people read in a national newspaper, encourage people to speak out, help to end the silence that surrounds abuse and let the police decide if there is a case to answer. Whatever your views and opinion of a national psychosis being played out, just remember that at the heart of every allegation is a survivor of child abuse, someone who has experienced horrific things and carries the burden of that every single day. Please don’t disrespect them, it takes more courage to speak out than you can possibly know.

https://carlchass.wordpress.com/2015/08/06/its-not-entertaining-its-child-abuse-my-message-to-dan-hodges-daily-telegraph/

My comment to Dominic Lawson’s article in the Sunday Times 01/02/15

A particularly upsetting article from you today in the Sunday times. I sincerely hope that Mr Lawson didn’t suffer abuse as a child, because if he had of done, he would be aware of the effects it leaves.

Mr Lawson almost seems to make fun of me and others when he says “young boys deflowered every third Friday”. Deflowered means loosing your virginity via sexual contact. However a more appropriate term in this case would be rape which given my age was also child abuse. Have you Mr Lawson, ever been raped? I really hope not as no one should have to experience that. I was 7 years old when I was first raped and it carried on regularly for 9 years. If Mr Lawson finds that humorous then he should be ashamed. Imagine for one moment me as a small 7 year old boy. Having a man rape you with such force it ripped me apart from the inside, the pain was indescribable, the confusion from not knowing what was happening or why and the panic at having my underwear and trousers soaked with blood. I didn’t just loose my virginity, It violated me in ways you just can’t imagine, it took away everything from me and I was just a boy, a child.

Whether Mr Lawson believes individual survivors is irrelevant, I would however, ask that he respects survivors of child abuse across the UK and uses his words carefully. I was not deflowered every third Friday, I was raped by lots of men for most of my childhood. It was not a joke, it was not something to disparage, it was what was happening to me and something that has happened to so many other people in the UK.


https://carlchass.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/my-comment-to-dominic-lawsons-article-in-the-sunday-times-010215/

Who do you think hurts the survivors more ?