Crossing from Cherbourg to Dublin tonight

HeidiHeidi · 27-04-2019 10:26pm

mad m wrote: »

Have you a link of how to look up boats.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-5.2/centery:53.3/zoom:8

Looks like they're heading back in now.... but I don't see anything leaving the port....

pm. · 27-04-2019 10:27pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

They're still doing laps of Dublin bay by the looks of it. That's one loooooong trip (I've discovered I know someone on board as well)

Yep it's getting annoying now can see Dublin and everyone just wants off... A lot people complaining to crew due to the lack of information passed onto passengers. Surely they would have known or had some idea that we were going to loose our spot

Feel sorry for some of the passengers that have hours to travel or have trains to catch. An experience I'm glad that is ALMOST behind me

PauloMN · 27-04-2019 10:28pm

First Up wrote: »

Bad weather is a fact of life at sea but holidaymakers don't usually get the worst of it.

Crew will tell you that the worst crossing in summer is mild compared to what they experience in the winter.

I'm sure they get more frequent bad crossings in the winter alright, but Hannah produced F11 on the France-Ireland route so it was up there with a bad winter storm for sure. I'd say it was right on the edge for sailing. Any more would have produced Imogen seas and look what happened the Epsilon when it sailed in that.

Dublin-Holyhead for me and landbridge to France. Sea never as rough as the France route and no problems with docking.

HeidiHeidi · 27-04-2019 10:31pm

Aha, I see not one but two ships pulling out of dock..... you'll have your choice of berths.... the end is in sight!!!

First Up · 27-04-2019 10:35pm

PauloMN wrote:

Dublin-Holyhead for me and landbridge to France. Sea never as rough as the France route and no problems with docking.

This one was bad for the time of year. I've done a dozen or more crossings to France and never had anything remotely that bad.

I'd still prefer the direct route to France to going via the UK - after Brexit it will be an even easier choice.

pm. · 27-04-2019 10:39pm

One of the metal ceiling tiles that fell a few feet from me. I'll post the videos tomorrow

Manitoban · 27-04-2019 10:44pm

pm. wrote: »

One of the metal ceiling tiles that fell a few feet from me. I'll post the videos tomorrow

What an ordeal, hope yous are on dry land very soon.

Spanish Eyes · 27-04-2019 10:50pm

Glad the ship is nearly in port now, and sorry for those who had to endure the crossing in the storm, but it happens, and there are never any guarantees out on the open sea.

Anyway, to those having a bit of a rant about food etc., surely you would have known from looking at the forecast or on social media and so on that Hannah storm was incoming.

Therefore, well, this is just me I suppose, first thing I would do (after Auchan and the other wine shops ha ha) is to stock up on non perishable grub and have it on board. If it is not needed, great, but it is also great to have a stash of bread, crackers, pate, crisps, juice, bananas, and all that and more, just in case.

The ships probably have a leeway in case of delays, but I'd always have a secret stash anyway! There may be a food regulation issue also with keeping hot food for too long or something, I don't know.

PauloMN · 27-04-2019 10:52pm

pm. wrote: »

One of the metal ceiling tiles that fell a few feet from me. I'll post the videos tomorrow

Nearly over. Hope you don't have too far to go when you hit dry land.

Look forward to the videos.

Corruptedmorals · 27-04-2019 11:00pm

Wow, glad the end is just about in sight. Can't wait to see videos..it's a route I know very well but moreso from Rosslare from holidays as a child but obviously not that ship. I'd be very curious to know the difference in handling a storm of equal size between this ship and the old one, the Normandy. I'm sure it had plenty in its time but we only ever experienced one bad crossing and it sounds very mild compared to this.

Kmum · 27-04-2019 11:14pm

On the food.. we did have a stash and we were aware of the storm but Irish Ferries didn’t specify how much of a delay until we’d checked in. We’ve done the rosslare-France route for a good few years and I’d never have anticipated a 13hr delay. There’s only so much dry food you can stomach. If they’d given more details in their text or when I called I would have emptied out the cooler box and stocked up on more substantial food.

My main issue with the food was the different standards and portions for those using the voucher. It should have been for anymeal in the bistro place or for a value that you could add to. I can forgive the queues etc. I also don’t think 1 meal to cover 13hrs is sufficient. I will follow up with them and see what the response is. There is no compensation due when delays are due to weather but they are obliged to provide adequate meals, drinks and snacks according to the consumer protection website.

Finally looks like we’re pulling in!

Pretzill · 27-04-2019 11:55pm

Glad the ordeal (voyage) is over for you. It looks to me this delay wasn't all storm related - as a frequent passenger to Cherbourg from Rosslare I'd question why they removed Rosslare as the Irish leg - Dublin is a very busy port! I travelled across only a few weeks ago and had another 3 hours drive ahead of me after Dublin - I really wouldn't fancy that drive at this hour especially as a delay at sea can get quite exhausting!

Weather isn't avoidable unfortunately and these things can happen and I'd much rather be safe. Enjoy the Terra firma!

First Up · 28-04-2019 8:00am

It will be interesting to know how much of the delay was time spent waiting to dock. Weather is weather but if they have locked themselves into berthing arrangements so tight that they are vulnerable to long delays, they are asking for (and found) even more trouble.

I've been a happy customer of IF on the Rosslare/OW for years but nothing I'm hearing about the Yeats and Dublin Port is giving me confidence.

First Up · 28-04-2019 8:18am

Corruptedmorals wrote:

Wow, glad the end is just about in sight. Can't wait to see videos..it's a route I know very well but moreso from Rosslare from holidays as a child but obviously not that ship. I'd be very curious to know the difference in handling a storm of equal size between this ship and the old one, the Normandy. I'm sure it had plenty in its time but we only ever experienced one bad crossing and it sounds very mild compared to this.

As far as I know, the Normandie never operated from Ireland. Its the boat thar Brittany Ferries operate from Portsmouth to Caen (and still do I think.)

The Irish Ferries vessel on the Rosslare Route was the Oscar Wilde.

vicwatson · 28-04-2019 10:21am

First Up wrote: »

As far as I know, the Normandie never operated from Ireland. Its the boat thar Brittany Ferries operate from Portsmouth to Caen (and still do I think.)

The Irish Ferries vessel on the Rosslare Route was the Oscar Wilde.

Mv Normandy sailed Rosslare to roscoff or Cherbourg for Irish ferries from 1999-2008,it was scrapped in 2012, might be before your time;)

WicklowTiger · 28-04-2019 10:56am

This demonstrates clearly the madness of moving the route to Dublin Port from Rosslare. In the next couple of months the Enniscorthy bypass opens. Must people using this service are taking cars and are prepared for a long drive on the other side. They would probably have no issue with an hour and a half this side as well.

But with Dublin so busy any small delay means potentially hours waiting on a slot. And that's not even accounting for potential Brexit complications at the port. Needless to say, I'm sure they would have been docked in Rosslare hours earlier had they not moved the route.

Pretzill · 28-04-2019 11:01am

WicklowTiger wrote: »

This demonstrates clearly the madness of moving the route to Dublin Port from Rosslare. In the next couple of months the Enniscorthy bypass opens. Must people using this service are taking cars and are prepared for a long drive on the other side. They would probably have no issue with an hour and a half this side as well.

But with Dublin so busy any small delay means potentially hours waiting on a slot. And that's not even accounting for potential Brexit complications at the port. Needless to say, I'm sure they would have been docked in Rosslare hours earlier had they not moved the route.

I agree. I have a longer drive to Rosslare but I don't mind the extra hour or so, very little traffic and straight down to the port in Rosslare versus more tolls or a packed quays in the city. It makes no sense because this is a faster ship than the OW but you don't get the benefit as it has longer to travel by sea from Dublin too.

First Up · 28-04-2019 1:19pm

vicwatson wrote:

Mv Normandy sailed Rosslare to roscoff or Cherbourg for Irish ferries from 1999-2008,it was scrapped in 2012, might be before your time

I guess so; I've travelled to France with BF, Stena and IF. I can't recall when I first used IF but the Oscar Wilde is the only vessel I remember using. (Brittany Ferries have operated a ferry called MV Normandie on the Portsmouth - Caen run for many years. Maybe there's two of them.)

You'd expect a brand new ship like the Yeats to perform much better than much older earlier models from your childhood.

road_high · 28-04-2019 1:20pm

Is the new ship serving Rosslare at all or is it solely Dublin?

First Up · 28-04-2019 1:21pm

road_high wrote: »

Is the new ship serving Rosslare at all or is it solely Dublin?

Just Dublin

pm. · 28-04-2019 4:27pm

Hey all

I got my son to upload the videos to YouTube

https://youtu.be/1ngUC-Cy1RQ

https://youtu.be/rpQ28k0UF04

https://youtu.be/IsxFr25ZC5s

First Up · 28-04-2019 4:38pm

pm. wrote:

I got my son to upload the videos to YouTube

Thanks
How busy was the ship?

Odelay · 28-04-2019 4:41pm

pm. wrote: »

Hey all

I got my son to upload the videos to YouTube

https://youtu.be/1ngUC-Cy1RQ

https://youtu.be/rpQ28k0UF04

https://youtu.be/IsxFr25ZC5s

Looks fairly normal to me?

pm. · 28-04-2019 4:43pm

First Up wrote: »

Thanks
How busy was the ship?

I'd say 75 to 80% full. The videos don't really do justice to how rough it felt on board, every now and then a monster wave would hit and scare the crap out of you

PowerToWait · 28-04-2019 5:00pm

Odelay wrote: »

Looks fairly normal to me?

Ah you can see there's a big swell.

pm. · 28-04-2019 5:01pm

Odelay wrote: »

Looks fairly normal to me?

Normal isn't ceiling tiles falling down from the ceilings, restaurants / shop closing, glass behind the bars smashing into the floor and people not leaving there rooms because it was so difficult to walk... As I said the videos really show the true experience

First Up · 28-04-2019 5:03pm

pm. wrote:

Normal isn't ceiling tiles falling down from the ceilings, restaurants / shop closing, glass behind the bars smashing into the floor and people not leaving there rooms because it was so difficult to walk... As I said the videos really show the true experience

I hope they fix the roof properly because you get seas like that every crossing in November.

PauloMN · 28-04-2019 5:17pm

Odelay wrote: »

Looks fairly normal to me?

There's always one.....

pm. · 28-04-2019 5:18pm

First Up wrote: »

I hope they fix the roof properly because you get seas like that every crossing in November.

If that was the case I don't think irish ferries would be in business too long taking over 30 hours to complete a trip that should take 18, the consent back log would cause them to fold in no time.

First Up · 28-04-2019 5:24pm

pm. wrote:

If that was the case I don't think irish ferries would be in business too long taking over 30 hours to complete a trip that should take 18, the consent back log would cause them to fold in no time.

From the videos presented it looked no worse than a typical winter crossing but presumably the delayed departure meant they missed some of the worst of it.

I'm still curious to know how much of the delay was due to the unavailability of a berth in Dublin.

Storm 10 · 28-04-2019 5:49pm

First Up wrote: »

From the videos presented it looked no worse than a typical winter crossing but presumably the delayed departure meant they missed some of the worst of it.

I'm still curious to know how much of the delay was due to the unavailability of a berth in Dublin.

Also as I posted they sheltered for a number of hours off Falmouth in Cornwall which caused a big delay

First Up · 28-04-2019 7:12pm

Storm 10 wrote:

Also as I posted they sheltered for a number of hours off Falmouth in Cornwall which caused a big delay

A baptism of fire (so to speak) for the new ship. They might have erred on the side of caution as it may have been the worst conditions it had experienced - and for sure the worst with a passenger load.

prunudo · 28-04-2019 9:52pm

I saw this post on fb and was reminded of this thread!
https://www.facebook.com/49697772862/posts/10157202749877863/?sfnsn=mo

Larbre34 · 29-04-2019 12:13am

Looks like she handled it pretty well all told. Last time they did something like that with the 'Epsilon' there was 12 Million quids worth of cars trucks and freight destroyed on the vehicle decks.

q85dw7osi4lebg · 29-04-2019 1:37am

Odelay wrote: »

Looks fairly normal to me?

Fairly normal ! Haha. Must have never done that crossing.

Also not normal to add a question mark to the end of a sentence that is not a question......????????

First Up · 29-04-2019 9:13am

Alyson Plain Wasteland wrote:

Fairly normal ! Haha. Must have never done that crossing.

Rough seas are quite common on that crossing, as the crew and commercial drivers know very well. Once a year holiday makers travelling with kids are less prepared.

The ferry looked well able for it (apart from the loose ceiling tiles) but the captain may have been ultra cautious, given the newness of the ship and the amateurs among the passengers.

Odelay · 29-04-2019 12:03pm

First Up wrote: »

Rough seas are quite common on that crossing, as the crew and commercial drivers know very well. Once a year holiday makers travelling with kids are less prepared.

The ferry looked well able for it (apart from the loose ceiling tiles) but the captain may have been ultra cautious, given the newness of the ship and the amateurs among the passengers.

Exactly. It looked uncomfortable but nothing exceptional.
I was expecting something like this...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uOhT8pDuoqU

miamee · 29-04-2019 12:12pm

Odelay wrote: »

Exactly. It looked uncomfortable but nothing exceptional.
I was expecting something like this...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uOhT8pDuoqU

I don't think the OP would have been posting on Boards on the ferry if that was the case :pac:

Widdensushi · 29-04-2019 1:45pm

Seems like a seriously steady ship in those videos

First Up · 29-04-2019 1:47pm

Widdensushi wrote:

Seems like a seriously steady ship in those videos

Thought so too.

Paddy@CIRL · 29-04-2019 1:59pm

I was another passenger on this with my father, and asides from the delays (we were onboard for around 33 hours total), I didn't think it was too bad. I've certainly been on worse crossings to Fishguard & Holyhead with Stena where it felt like the ship was about to break in half, but the Yeats seemed to cope very well. Lots of rolling, but nothing that prevented going for a walk around the decks.

Lots of sick faces about, mind.

Odelay · 29-04-2019 4:21pm

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

I was another passenger on this with my father, and asides from the delays (we were onboard for around 33 hours total), I didn't think it was too bad. I've certainly been on worse crossings to Fishguard & Holyhead with Stena where it felt like the ship was about to break in half, but the Yeats seemed to cope very well. Lots of rolling, but nothing that prevented going for a walk around the decks.

Lots of sick faces about, mind.

Thank you!

Paddy@CIRL · 29-04-2019 4:40pm

In the other passenger's defence, I recorded a video during the worst of it, and what was happening on-screen and how much the ship was rolling felt like two very different scenarios. It looked almost peaceful outside!

PauloMN · 29-04-2019 4:55pm

Paddy@CIRL wrote: »

In the other passenger's defence, I recorded a video during the worst of it, and what was happening on-screen and how much the ship was rolling felt like two very different scenarios. It looked almost peaceful outside!

Didn't look to be rolling much at all in the OP's video (which I thought was impressive), but it was pitching enough to be pretty uncomfortable for passengers I'm sure. Looks very solid though and I'm sure performed as well as any modern large ship would - certainly much better than the Leinster and St. Columba of old!

Agreed that videos don't always show the full extent of what's going on in real life.

The delay was very bad though, 33 hours is dreadful for what should be 15 or 16 hours perhaps?

First Up · 29-04-2019 5:32pm

PauloMN wrote:

The delay was very bad though, 33 hours is dreadful for what should be 15 or 16 hours perhaps?

I feel sorry for anyone who was travelling in just a reclining seat.

Larbre34 · 29-04-2019 6:12pm

First Up wrote: »

I feel sorry for anyone who was travelling in just a reclining seat.

I dunno, I prefer not to be lying flat in heavy seas, especially in a windowless cabin, does weird things to my inner ear. I'd take a decent forward facing chair anytime.

First Up · 29-04-2019 6:15pm

Larbre34 wrote:

I dunno, I prefer not to be lying flat in heavy seas, especially in a windowless cabin, does weird things to my inner ear. I'd take a decent forward facing chair anytime.

33 hours (probably longer) in the same clothes, no shower access, no privacy....

No thanks.

Crossing from Cherbourg to Dublin tonight

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