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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 gem2010


    please, correct my ignorance so and enlighten me so my dear about the amount of pharmacology and biochemistry you learned this year.

    how many lectures did you get in each?

    is it not well documented in medical circles that there is next to no pharmacology being taught in UL, as clearly evinced by the 3rd and 4th years who are currently on placement. its no secret that they didnt have a clue when they stepped on the wards. id be interested to know how UL have rectified this, you seem to know more so please enlighten me.

    i'm continuing to post because i'm fully entitled to offer my opinion; you on the other hand have some indignant high and mighty attitude about you that inhibits you from acknowledging or admitting the flaws in your medical education.

    at least sid has the decency to admit that i'm right in what i've said, you however appear to be blinded to the fact.

    Mrs stuffings, I can see why people are getting pissed off at you, but let me try and explain why. The point about PBL is that you are the director of your own learning. You go through the motions of a hypothetical case, meet a whole lot of **** you don't know, make learning objectives from them, go off to the library, look up the MISCI of the drug in question/physiology of whatever etc, and teach yourself. Teach yourself HARD because then the next PBL, you pick a number from a hat and you get up and presesnt that learning objective to your group. THAT'S how you learn pharm, as well as physiology and everything else. You learn from books and you learn from each other, and the tutor guides you in the right direction. Then, at the end of teh case, a list of official learning objectives goes up and you check off what you did, and catch up on what you missed, then get a new case. That's PBL, and the tutors are getting paid a MASSIVE amount to be there, so it's certainly not cheap. We get the lectures from relevant teachers - doctors from hospitals etc. A cardiologist teaches us cardiololgy etc. We don't have a pharm lecturer, but it does get somewhat covered in our 'anatomy' = jack of all trades tutorials. I believe UL have since signed on a pharm lecturer to start in septermber (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I think that a microbiologist would be no harm either, so hopefully they're working on that. Anyway, if you don't understand the system, don't criticise it. Question it sure, but don't criticise it because you just end up making yourself look arrogant and idiotic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭ORLY?


    MrsStuffings,

    Let's apply some critical thinking to your assertion that UL graduates will have "no idea" what they are doing on the wards and that the medical education there is "second rate".

    Your evidence for supporting this position consists of your interpretation of several stories you have heard from several unspecified sources.

    Let's look at the evidence for the counter position.

    1) As in all other degrees all exams are vetted by an independent external examiner, this is where the similarities with other degrees will likely end.

    2) You won't know how things work in clinical years yet but clinical exams are marked by independent doctors (a pair) who have no teaching position at the school and who know nothing of the student (usually, rarely one of the doctors may know the student). The only basis they have for awarding a mark is their own judgement as to the level of skill and knowledge the student should have based on the stage they are at in the course.

    3) In UL, each student receives a grade for each clinical placement they attend from the consultant (or GP for the GP rotation) leading the team.

    4) The facilities, teaching and examination process all come under the scrutiny of the Irish Medical Council whose duty is to ensure the protection of patients, and who are responsible for the accreditation of a medical school.

    So for your position to be true, the external examiners, the consultants asked to carry out the clinical exams, the consultants and GPs marking students on their rotations, and the Irish Medical Council must have ALL got it wrong? Or are they wilfully enabling doctors with "no idea" of what they are doing to enter the workforce?

    Now, to address your issues about "picture books" and "learning off the internet".

    What do you mean by picture books? Anatomy atlases? If so, I can assure absolutely that their use is sufficiently widespread as to warrant their mass publication. The class at UL is not quite large enough on its own to provide a profitable market for them. I personally have found them quite useful as I'm sure many thousands and thousands of anatomy and medicine students have throughout the world.

    As for "learning off the internet", well let me assure there too that you will need to consult the internet in medical school and even more so after you graduate. You don't know why yet, you won't be able to understand why because you are not yet studying medicine. Essentially you are never going to be able to learn everything you need to know from a lecture or a book because everything is always changing, always, if you look at an oxford handbook from as recent as 2008 you will see that much of what is in it is now flat out wrong. The only way to keep pace with certain developments is by reading the latest guidelines and studies on the internet.

    Finally (apologies if quoting from another thread isn't allowed but the topic being discussed in this thread and the "Good luck in the GAMSAT thread" has been the same)
    im concerned about pharm teaching in UL in general and the doctors being produced; i'm concerned about the standard of doctors being released onto the wards who have ''NO IDEA'' what they're doing.
    bottom line, UL medicine is a second rate medical education, anyone who tells you otherwise is just trying to convince themselves that they've not be taken for a fool.
    is it not well documented in medical circles that there is next to no pharmacology being taught in UL, as clearly evinced by the 3rd and 4th years who are currently on placement. its no secret that they didnt have a clue when they stepped on the wards

    This, is libel, I would argue malicious to boot too, and this UL student who has just finished their 3rd year placements and who had far more than just a clue as to what they were doing doesn't appreciate it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 gem2010


    ORLY? wrote: »
    MrsStuffings,

    Let's apply some critical thinking to your assertion that UL graduates will have "no idea" what they are doing on the wards and that the medical education there is "second rate".

    Your evidence for supporting this position consists of your interpretation of several stories you have heard from several unspecified sources.

    Let's look at the evidence for the counter position.

    1) As in all other degrees all exams are vetted by an independent external examiner, this is where the similarities with other degrees will likely end.

    2) You won't know how things work in clinical years yet but clinical exams are marked by independent doctors (a pair) who have no teaching position at the school and who know nothing of the student (usually, rarely one of the doctors may know the student). The only basis they have for awarding a mark is their own judgement as to the level of skill and knowledge the student should have based on the stage they are at in the course.

    3) In UL, each student receives a grade for each clinical placement they attend from the consultant (or GP for the GP rotation) leading the team.

    4) The facilities, teaching and examination process all come under the scrutiny of the Irish Medical Council whose duty is to ensure the protection of patients, and who are responsible for the accreditation of a medical school.

    So for your position to be true, the external examiners, the consultants asked to carry out the clinical exams, the consultants and GPs marking students on their rotations, and the Irish Medical Council must have ALL got it wrong? Or are they wilfully enabling doctors with "no idea" of what they are doing to enter the workforce?

    Now, to address your issues about "picture books" and "learning off the internet".

    What do you mean by picture books? Anatomy atlases? If so, I can assure absolutely that their use is sufficiently widespread as to warrant their mass publication. The class at UL is not quite large enough on its own to provide a profitable market for them. I personally have found them quite useful as I'm sure many thousands and thousands of anatomy and medicine students have throughout the world.

    As for "learning off the internet", well let me assure there too that you will need to consult the internet in medical school and even more so after you graduate. You don't know why yet, you won't be able to understand why because you are not yet studying medicine. Essentially you are never going to be able to learn everything you need to know from a lecture or a book because everything is always changing, always, if you look at an oxford handbook from as recent as 2008 you will see that much of what is in it is now flat out wrong. The only way to keep pace with certain developments is by reading the latest guidelines and studies on the internet.

    Finally (apologies if quoting from another thread isn't allowed but the topic being discussed in this thread and the "Good luck in the GAMSAT thread" has been the same)







    This, is libel, I would argue malicious to boot too, and this UL student who has just finished their 3rd year placements and who had far more than just a clue as to what they were doing doesn't appreciate it.

    Very well said ORLY. I think this person is not worth the amount of attention they are getting, although it's the 'outlayers' (saunders would like that) like them that tend to sway public opinion for some reason!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    someone scored highly on section 2 of gamsat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭hurdygurdy85


    gem2010 wrote: »
    Very well said ORLY. I think this person is not worth the amount of attention they are getting, although it's the 'outlayers' (saunders would like that) like them that tend to sway public opinion for some reason!


    I agree. While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, when someone expresses it in such an arrogant and nasty manner, no-one should give it the attention it so obviously screams out for.

    Enough said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    mrsstuffings, you already received a warning about your posting style. as you have not heeded that warning and continue to troll and are nothing but a wind up merchant, you are now banned. if, when your ban is lifted, you post in the same manner, the next ban will be permanent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    Guys just as an add on to what Sam34 has said above.

    There is an age old saying on the internet, "Don't feed the troll"

    Generally people exhibiting trolly behaviour are only doing it for the attention, once you ignore them and starve them of the oxygen of attention, they will fade away back to whatever corner they came from. As Mods we'll always act to take these types of people out of a discussion, but for your sanity, its often better to just place the person on ignore.

    Cheers

    DrG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭drspock


    All together now, HIP HIP HURRAYYYYY! And to counter the bellicose dribble coming from that mindless clown, I don't believe him for a second. I have heard from multiple doctors, who dealt with them in the south west, that the ul students are excellent!


    sam34 wrote: »
    mrsstuffings, you already received a warning about your posting style. as you have not heeded that warning and continue to troll and are nothing but a wind up merchant, you are now banned. if, when your ban is lifted, you post in the same manner, the next ban will be permanent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭hurdygurdy85


    Ding-dong the witch is dead....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Choco99


    Scientist1 wrote: »
    Can Mrs Stuffings please be kicked off of Boards? Every time I am genuinely looking for info I keep coming across the same stupid useless argument. And in relation to your smugness, did you not have to sit the exam THREE times to obtain that score!!!!

    Anyway, I am wondering If anyone is else freaking about the lateness of the CAO offers? I'm working full-time (long hours, shift-work) and I've signed a contract which states that I will give at least 4 weeks notice If leaving...If you are offered a late place, does that mean you can start a bit later???Is there a cut-off date for registration? Is there a cut-off date for loan applications and how long does the loan take???

    Surely, people can't accept an offer, finish work, pack up, move, find somewhere to live, apply for loan etc etc in a week or two???

    In reply to Scientist1,

    I just finished my 4 years in GEMS medicine, and yes I had to do all that stuff in a few weeks! It's a very big and quick life change!
    The loan is generally really quick - I called Ulster Bank, went into them and signed a contract, then got the money within the next few days.
    If you're offered a late place I wouldn't wait around to finish your job. You'll already have missed a few weeks and it's a lot of work/study to catch up on. Missing another few weeks would be fairly tough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ULbound


    Hi all,

    Im hoping to be heading down to limerick this sept to start medicine (hoping my gammy score will get me in!). I have dyslexia and a speech disorder which hasnt stopped me so far in my studies but does require a bit of patience and understanding on the part of the tutors/examiners mainly when correcting exams. i was just wondering if there is any current UL students out there who has dylsexia/is aware of someone in the class with it and what is the attitude of the staff/fellow class mates in UL? limerick is my first choice as really like the idea of PBL and that its a graduate only class but am just abit worried now how UL cope with learning difficulties? i'd appreciate if anyone could share their experiences

    thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    To be honest, I haven't a clue. I am not aware of anyone with dyslexia or any other learning difficulty in the course, I've never asked anyone though.

    In the first two years the assessment is mostly MCQ and SAQ which require very little reading and very little writing. However, they are done for time and would require very quick and careful reading of the questions. The college have accommodated people with physical disabilities to make small changes to make the exam fairer. I would guess, and this is purely a guess, for someone with dyslexia they would provide the usual measures - extended reading time and possibly a reader.

    The head of school etc. are contactable via the med school website and would be prompt and sincere with their response.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭spagboll


    i know a few with dyslexia in med, both grad and undergrad. I'd contact UL and discuss the situation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭hurdygurdy85


    Scientist1 wrote: »
    Can Mrs Stuffings please be kicked off of Boards? Every time I am genuinely looking for info I keep coming across the same stupid useless argument. And in relation to your smugness, did you not have to sit the exam THREE times to obtain that score!!!!

    Anyway, I am wondering If anyone is else freaking about the lateness of the CAO offers? I'm working full-time (long hours, shift-work) and I've signed a contract which states that I will give at least 4 weeks notice If leaving...If you are offered a late place, does that mean you can start a bit later???Is there a cut-off date for registration? Is there a cut-off date for loan applications and how long does the loan take???

    Surely, people can't accept an offer, finish work, pack up, move, find somewhere to live, apply for loan etc etc in a week or two???

    Hey Scientist1,
    From my experience in dealing with loans, last year I spoke to AIB in UL the day I got an offer from round zero (which was 5th August or something) and arranged to meet with their GEM student lender when I arrived home the following week (I was abroad at the time). The student lender was so nice to deal with and the loan was fairly easy to arrange-an official offer from CAO & a good credit rating should generally ensure that you get approved. Once all the major paperwork was done in that one meeting, they just needed a signature to release the funds closer to the course starting date in order to pay fees. In the end, I turned down my place but was in contact with some people who did start the course and they said that a few people started the course a few weeks after everyone else. Which must have been from the later CAO rounds. So the college obviously facilitated their registration at that late date. Also presuming they too had to take out loans, there musn't be a deadline by which you have to apply for loans.

    I understand your worries on quitting work with short notice. Last year I got a right bollocking (dragged up to HR for good measure) for not providing 4 full weeks' notice. But who gives a crap when you've got an offer/golden ticket for Medicine in your hand? I certainly didn't. It's beyond your control if you get a late offer anyways.

    If round zero has passed without an offer you can find out where you are placed on a waiting list for any given college if you ring their medical dept. That should give you an idea as to where and if you should start to look for accomodation. You can put deposits down on on-campus accomodation early in advance just in case you do get an offer. I did that with UL and only missed out on €50 in the end even after pulling out of the agreement. (But you have to let them know you're not taking the accomodation by a certain date or they will keep your rent for the 1st semester.) Either way, the colleges have to facilitate for the fact that some students will start after the official start date. Most of them will have late registration dates. If you get a round 1 or 2 offer you'll have to drop everything and run & organise the loan/registration/accomodation as quickly as possible. I presume what they cover in the course while you are not there will still be examined at a later stage, so you'd need to catch up fairly quickly. Hopefully it'll work out for you though! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 netaddict


    Dyslexia usually doesn't hinder most folks but have to admit I haven't seen any severe dyslexics in medicine. My own flat mate has dyslexia and is a fantastic physician. But I have to caution you against medicine if you have a severe speech impediment. An awful lot of what is involved in the job involves communication often in a time restricted environment. I hate putting people of there dreams but smart people would often have a happier life using their skills in a different environment than medicine if they find certain aspects of the job will be difficult.

    Note most universities offer extra time for written examinations however often at uni's the practical exams such as osce's extra time cannot be supplied due to organisational difficulties and with a speech impediment these exams may prove to be quite difficult.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scientist1


    Thanks a million for the info! Really helpfull - just wondering why you picked AIB over Ulster Bank - were their terms and conditions better? Do you need a guarantor?
    Yeah I'd walk out of work in the morning and head straight to med school If I could, just rather leave on good terms ;) - fingers crossed I get Round 1 - first time gamsater - got 56 - abysmal section 3 - do you mind me asking what score you had for round 1 last year???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭hurdygurdy85


    Scientist1 wrote: »
    Thanks a million for the info! Really helpfull - just wondering why you picked AIB over Ulster Bank - were their terms and conditions better? Do you need a guarantor?
    Yeah I'd walk out of work in the morning and head straight to med school If I could, just rather leave on good terms ;) - fingers crossed I get Round 1 - first time gamsater - got 56 - abysmal section 3 - do you mind me asking what score you had for round 1 last year???

    No problem. Thinking back on it now, AIB had a lower interest rate than Ulster Bank (i think) and they were willing to take on my existing loans aswell. I've always been with AIB but my choice was based on the interest rate since we're going to be paying back a lot of money for a long time. I didnt need a guarantor, but you do have to take out an insurance policy on the loan.

    There's a thread here about other people's experience of UL & finance.
    http://www.newmediamedicine.com/forum/royal-college-surgeons-ireland-medical-school/32863-university-limerick-med-school-funding.html


    Also, here's a link to a pdf with all of Ulster Banks details for the GEM package. They dont seem to give an interest rate though-you'd probably have to ring the UL branch to find out the current rate.
    http://www2.ul.ie/pdf/718128609.pdf

    From my experience if you ring any branch other than the branch that deals directly with the college, you get put on hold 18 times while they look at eachother confusedly and think that they've got a crazy on the line. UL seem to work as much with AIB (Castletroy) as they do with Ulster Bank (on-campus) so that's handy.

    I was sitting on 59 last year & got UL in round zero as it was my second choice. Sitting on a 61 this year hoping to get into UCD/UCC. So tired of waiting.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Molly_88


    52 days.... its not like im counting tho..:p


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭pollypigwash


    There was a piece on the one o'clock news this afternoon on Radio1 about Graduate Medicine, I only heard the end of it so not sure how much depth they went into, or how long. They were talking to some UL students who graduated today and their experience, it was interesting. Could be worth having a look back on the RTE player if it's on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 ULbound


    hiya, ive just seen that was interesting to listen to. heres the link-its the video on the right side:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0614/doctors.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭MLH1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭spagboll


    now it's up to these fine students to build a reputation for UL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭hurdygurdy85


    Paul Finnucane looked so proud of his students. Fair play to them all. Time the stuffiness of old school medicine in Ireland changed for once and for all. The sceptics will be watching no doubt. Best of luck to all the UL GEM grads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 xlough30


    I got 56 in the Gamsat, what do people reckon my chances of getting an offer from UL will be. And what round will it be cos id be worried about the hassle of getting accomodation and stuff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭sparrow3


    To be honest, no one has any idea what the points requirements will be in 0 round, 1st or 2nd round.

    However, the fact that places are increasing and numbers of applicants has reduced would indicate that points requirements should stay the same as last year or drop a mark.

    Since a number of people got into UL last year on 56, i reckon you have a very good chance of getting in. My own guess is that UL will be 56 or 57 Round 0 ( offers on 4th August) and 1st round offers (around 24th August) will be 56 too

    best of luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 watawaster


    If you're worried about accomodation maybe it'd be an idea to put a deposit on the UL campus accom. Its 250 and if you don't get offered medicine ya get 200 back.

    I'd say UL wil be 56 again, you never know maybe mrs stuffings was a blessing in disguise for you and turned a few peeps off UL? ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 caz_von


    the countdown is killing me! So desperate to hand in my notice :D

    I really don't know Limerick very well but I am looking to rent a 2-3 bedroom apartment/house in a decent area. Would be happy with a bit of a commute. Does anyone have a suggestion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 kruzer


    I'd say this has been asked a trillion times but...I got 57 and I have UL as the third choice in my application. If I don't get either of the top two (RCSI and UCD and I know it's unlikely) is there preference for applicants with the same score who had UL as higher in the list?

    Basically I am asking if you think I should put UL higher in my application as that is my most likely destination (if any)? Thank you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 Molly_88


    No cao doesnt work like that u should read the cao handbook. basically it doesnt matter what order u put them in, the cao will only go by which course your eligible for. the only thing order of choice is important for is if u want to move up the list in further rounds if places become available. so u should really only put your order in terms of preference.

    so basically it wont give you an advantage putting UL first (if its not ur first choice) it will only really impede u if u want to move up a course in further rounds.

    sorry if I didn't explain this well! its all in the cao handbook. failing that you can go to leaving cert forum where they have questions like this. I was thinkin a similar question as u and posted it here (yep i didnt read the cao handbook either, i sound like a very promising doctor..:S) -

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72346123

    hope that helps!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 kruzer


    The CAO hand book is terribly written so I don't bother with it, thanks for the help


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scientist1


    caz_von wrote: »
    the countdown is killing me! So desperate to hand in my notice :D

    I really don't know Limerick very well but I am looking to rent a 2-3 bedroom apartment/house in a decent area. Would be happy with a bit of a commute. Does anyone have a suggestion?

    I hear you, dreaming about handing in my notice! You can get a nice double room in a house in Castletroy, near UL, for 200 - 300e...rents are pretty low in Limerick...check out daft...


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭heybert


    Scientist1 wrote: »
    caz_von wrote: »
    the countdown is killing me! So desperate to hand in my notice :D

    I really don't know Limerick very well but I am looking to rent a 2-3 bedroom apartment/house in a decent area. Would be happy with a bit of a commute. Does anyone have a suggestion?

    I hear you, dreaming about handing in my notice! You can get a nice double room in a house in Castletroy, near UL, for 200 - 300e...rents are pretty low in Limerick...check out daft...

    For this who can (maybe with a parental guarantee), purchasing a small property in Limerick might not be a bad idea. You can get a 2 bed apartment for under 100k with the equivalent to rent in repayments.

    And if the bank ask about income you can tell them that they have just guaranteed it for the next four years!!

    Fat chance, I know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 caz_von


    heybert wrote: »
    For this who can (maybe with a parental guarantee), purchasing a small property in Limerick might not be a bad idea. You can get a 2 bed apartment for under 100k with the equivalent to rent in repayments.

    And if the bank ask about income you can tell them that they have just guaranteed it for the next four years!!

    Fat chance, I know.

    Ha classsic!

    If I get Limerick then I am going to have to look at places halfway between Cork and Limerick as the hubby will probably only get work in Cork. Guess the regions in between would be cheap enough?


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scientist1


    I'm screwed on my 56 aren't I??? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭MrsStuffings


    Scientist1 wrote: »
    I'm screwed on my 56 aren't I??? :(

    yeah pretty much so.no matter how bad some people make UL out to be the points wont go lower than 57.
    id sign up for september's exam and start studying again if i were you.
    have a 68 myself so i'm safely on course for RCSI.
    best of luck with the repeat.
    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Paella


    Scientist1 wrote: »
    I'm screwed on my 56 aren't I??? :(
    With the overall increase in graduate entry places I think 56 should be enough to get you a place, whether in Round 0 or Round 1. It might be fairly late in the month if you do get an offer though; a lot of Dublin-based people seem to turn down Cork and Limerick with the aim of re-sitting the GAMSAT and getting UCD/RCSI the following year.

    I'd ignore the immature stuff coming from MrsStuffings; she only seems to come on here to either try and wind other people up or parade her 'great' score. The GAMSAT is just a 1-day test, I can't see how a good mark in it can be used as the sole indicator of potential suitability for Medicine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭Yillan


    You'll know in a couple of days Scientist1. Que sera sera and all that. Last year someone on 54 was offered a place in UL according to reports, so it's not impossible that you will be offered a place there. Many of those with higher scores that miss out on their colleges of choice in Dublin and Cork are likely to reject the offer of UL in favour of doing the exam again, so that might work in favour along with the decrease in numbers of applicants. The curve for the Irish exam this year was not hugely different from last year, but the numbers of people applying with high scores from the UK has probably jumped so that's the only thing that could go against you (and me) and rise the scores.

    So in short, you've given yourself a chance. A decent chance imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭heybert


    Scientist1 wrote: »
    I'm screwed on my 56 aren't I??? :(

    yeah pretty much so.no matter how bad some people make UL out to be the points wont go lower than 57.
    id sign up for september's exam and start studying again if i were you.
    have a 68 myself so i'm safely on course for RCSI.
    best of luck with the repeat.
    ;)

    WUM if I've ever seen one. You're good though, I'll give you that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scientist1


    heybert wrote: »
    WUM if I've ever seen one. You're good though, I'll give you that!

    Not good enough though - starting to repeat herself - needs new material! ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23 getleft


    Wouldn't like to be stuck out in Sandyford with her for the year. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 watawaster


    Karma will hit you hard in the face some day MrsStuffings.

    But I did miss your comments, they are priceless. Such a mixture of insecurity and bitterness did I ever see!

    Good luck guys, let us all get hammered this weekend! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭Widget


    Does anyone know what the GAMSAT score for UL was this year??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭FrankAmazing


    i heard today in class that someone got in on a 51!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    i heard today in class that someone got in on a 51!!!!!!!!!

    id find that very hard to believe


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭Widget


    I would be surprised if it was that low but in my experience as long as someone has a reasonable brain, the right type of personality, and is willing to work consistently they will do OK in medicine


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    i heard all you needed to get into ul was a 2.1, a blank cheque and 15 tokens from kelloggs cornflakes


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭foreverandever


    i heard all you needed to get into ul was a 2.1, a blank cheque and 15 tokens from kelloggs cornflakes
    not neccesarily cornflakes, any kelloggs cereal will count


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    i heard all you needed to get into ul was a 2.1, a blank cheque and 15 tokens from kelloggs cornflakes
    not neccesarily cornflakes, any kelloggs cereal will count


    theres been lots of warnings all over this forum about that sort of crap.

    both posters banned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭FrankAmazing


    sam34 wrote: »
    theres been lots of warnings all over this forum about that sort of crap.

    both posters banned.

    sid is a ul student!!!surely he's allowed make a satirical remark about his course! relax ffs!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    sid is a ul student!!!surely he's allowed make a satirical remark about his course! relax ffs!

    a) if you have an issue with a mod instruction please pm the mod about it rather than derail the thread with discussion about it, as is sitewide policy

    b) comments are fine as long as they are not trolling or baiting

    c) this forum is full of warnings about that so there's no excuse


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