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03-01-2012, 17:53   #1
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English Language Assistant Programme in Spain

Hey all,
Has anybody taken part in the above scheme? The pay is about €700 pm. Is this ok to live on, especially if you are in somewhere like Madrid. Do you need a college level of Spanish or need to be doing Spanish as part of your degree programme? The Dept application form seems to need forms to be completed by college stating proficiency in Spanish etc.
I'm a qualified teacher. Are there other better options to teach in Spain? I know there are various forums out there but you can't beat first hand accounts from people.
Thanks in advance.
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04-01-2012, 11:58   #2
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Are you looking to teach in a Spanish state school or a language academy? If its a state school I wouldn't know too much about the qualifications but €700 per month will not leave a lot of money for anything after rent and daily living expenses have been paid for.

However, if you are simply looking to work in a language academy then I would imagine that being a qualified teacher will open up a lot of very good opportunities where a 30 hour week will pay approx €1700 per month, which is a pretty decent salary (in Barcelona anyway).

If the language academy is something you're interested in then I'd definitely recommend the CELTA qualification, it is expensive but there are so many EFL teachers that, in my opinion, this is the easiest way to have you CV considered, plus it really is very useful, especially if this is your first time teaching a language or teaching student is a foreign language.

As for Spanish, the more you have the better for you to understand what the students are trying to say, however, in the academy I work in it is pretty much forbidden to speak Spanish. If you can learn the basics you'll be amazed at how much you can understand when listening, although speaking is much more difficult!

If you have more questions about language academies feel free to ask. Good luck.
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04-01-2012, 13:55   #3
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Thanks for replying. Can you tell me more about the language academies? I think these are what I'm looking for. Where can I find employers? I have taught in Spain before in summer camps. This should help me getting work?? Do I need a CELTA if I have my teaching qualification here. I also have the ACELS qualification here to teach English..the conversion course for qualified teachers. Will this do?
Also where would you recommend one to go? I believe Madrid is the big destination work wise?

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Hey all,
Has anybody taken part in the above scheme? The pay is about €700 pm. Is this ok to live on, especially if you are in somewhere like Madrid. Do you need a college level of Spanish or need to be doing Spanish as part of your degree programme? The Dept application form seems to need forms to be completed by college stating proficiency in Spanish etc.
I'm a qualified teacher. Are there other better options to teach in Spain? I know there are various forums out there but you can't beat first hand accounts from people.
Thanks in advance.

it does not seem like a lot, especially for the capital. I worked 12 hours a week in German secondary school and got paid 1,000 and was free to work elsewhere in the afternoon.
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04-01-2012, 14:16   #5
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Yes I noticed that the pay in Austria and Germany appeared to be higher but I guess that reflects the standard of living. Was accommodation included in your package?

I know the pay is low but you are free to do private lessons as well. It also gives plenty of time to explore the place.

Fuinseog, did you have German in your degree??
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Yes I noticed that the pay in Austria and Germany appeared to be higher but I guess that reflects the standard of living. Was accommodation included in your package?

I know the pay is low but you are free to do private lessons as well. It also gives plenty of time to explore the place.

Fuinseog, did you have German in your degree??
accommodation was not included. I did have German in degree, but only used it to socialise with colleagues. otherwise it was frowned upon. i can imagine the Spanish would appreciate someone with their language but in Germany I was there to speak English and it was expected that I only ever use it and not German.
language schools will take you without a TEFL of CELTA. it depends on how many native speakers they have.
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Hi Joe, I'm teaching in Madrid and that wage sounds really quite low. You would have to supplement it with extra private lessons quite a lot to have a decent standard of living. Your probably looking at €400 for your rent and then you'll have bills on top of that. Your monthly transport ticket will cost between 40 and 80 euro approx. depending on where you are working and need to get to. There does seem to be a good bit of work floating about for private lessons though so maybe that could be a way to get by without living on bread and water.

I don't know about the scheme your looking at but if your a language assistant I wouldn't think you need to know a lot of Spanish if at all. I would imagine they are looking for a native speaker who can speak English all the time. The more the pupils hear english spoken the better it is for them. Obviously knowing a few phrases will be helpful 'Take out your books', 'Stop talking' etc.By the way,are you an English teacher?I'm a geography teacher but i've done some assistance in english classes before and i find it quite unsatisfying. Reading a story to thirteen year old's and explaining how to pronounce words etc. Not really my thing but I had to complete my timetable with these type of lessons.
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Chippers, are you working in the programme. The pay seems small but I presume accommodation would be included.
http://www.education.ie/home/home.js...41&language=EN
The above is the link to our Dept of Education with info on the programme.
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Chippers, are you working in the programme. The pay seems small but I presume accommodation would be included.
http://www.education.ie/home/home.js...41&language=EN
The above is the link to our Dept of Education with info on the programme.
No Joe i'm on a private contract with the Communidad de Madrid to teach Geography and History in public schools. There are a few Americans in my schools that seem to be on a similar programme to you though. Unlike you though, they are not necessarily qualified teachers. They're a mix of college students and people wanting to become teachers in the future. They assist the spanish teacher's giving English lessons - basically they do whatever the teacher's need them to do. They do moan a bit about lack of money so i know it can be an issue. I had a look at the info and it's 700e for 12 hours. If accom is included that's not bad at all.
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Cippers, how did you secure your position? Did you do it yourself or was it advertised as part of a wider recruitment process?
Does anyone know if accommodation is included in the package?
If it isn't the money is v small and would limit you. I think I'd prefer to work a full week, having the extra pay to do things and travel etc.
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At €700 for 50 hours per month that is €14 per hour, not bad for a teaching job, especially one which would reuire very little prep work so I'd be very surprised if accommodation was included.

The benefit of that government position is that you would be available to work in the evenings when the academies are busy or simply just take on private classes and supplement your income.

To get a good idea of available positions in Madrid (or anywhere in Spain) check out this website http://madrid.loquo.com/ce/jobs/education-teaching/508
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If you were living in Madrid, for example, I would say accommodation would be quite expensive. I know you could do private classes but from what I've heard from people doing them, it takes a good while to build up clients. Thus you would want some money going out to keep you going for the first few months.

Any other info would be great. As I said it's much better to get info from people working on the ground.
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Hi Joe, I'm teaching in Madrid and that wage sounds really quite low. You would have to supplement it with extra private lessons quite a lot to have a decent standard of living. Your probably looking at €400 for your rent and then you'll have bills on top of that. Your monthly transport ticket will cost between 40 and 80 euro approx. depending on where you are working and need to get to. There does seem to be a good bit of work floating about for private lessons though so maybe that could be a way to get by without living on bread and water.

I don't know about the scheme your looking at but if your a language assistant I wouldn't think you need to know a lot of Spanish if at all. I would imagine they are looking for a native speaker who can speak English all the time. The more the pupils hear english spoken the better it is for them. Obviously knowing a few phrases will be helpful 'Take out your books', 'Stop talking' etc.By the way,are you an English teacher?I'm a geography teacher but i've done some assistance in english classes before and i find it quite unsatisfying. Reading a story to thirteen year old's and explaining how to pronounce words etc. Not really my thing but I had to complete my timetable with these type of lessons.
the language assistant assists the teacher, which means discipline, giving orders and homework is not their remit.
I was never alone in the classroom with pupils.
being a language assistant is great if you are still at college or just finished your degree. as a fully qualified teacher however, I would agree with you when you say it would not be satisfying.
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Cippers, how did you secure your position? Did you do it yourself or was it advertised as part of a wider recruitment process?
The Communidad de Madrid were looking for teachers last year. They contacted the Irish Consulate who then contacted the AGTI (Association of Geography Teacher's of Ireland). A colleague of mine who is in the AGTI told me about it. In total they employed 8 Irish teachers, half for Geography and History and half for Science.
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Just thought I'd bump this thread as I have applied for this scheme. Would like to know if anybody has done the programme? I applied for Asturias, Madrid or Andalucía. Does anybody have any insight?
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