Newbridge Chat Thread

harr · 23-07-2020 7:41pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

I’m it dry clued up on shopping online, but Isn’t their online facility still operational?

Yes on line still available but I do like to fit on clothes , sizes even from same manufacturer can be hit and miss ..

harr · 23-07-2020 7:42pm

TCP/IP wrote: »

Best place for men's clothes in Kildare is Brownes Of Naas hands down.

Thanks for the recommendation.., will have to pop over to stock up .

NewbridgeIR · 23-07-2020 9:01pm

TCP/IP wrote: »

Best place for men's clothes in Kildare is Brownes Of Naas hands down.

Seconded.

harr · 24-07-2020 6:21pm

Any one know what was the story with traffic in newbridge today , couldn’t get in or out if it , all approach roads were at a complete standstill around 2pm ..

Darc19 · 24-07-2020 7:02pm

harr wrote: »

Any one know what was the story with traffic in newbridge today , couldn’t get in or out if it , all approach roads were at a complete standstill around 2pm ..

Possibly a funeral. They cause havoc if it's a walking cortege.

WhatsGoingOn2 · 24-07-2020 7:06pm

harr wrote: »

Any one know what was the story with traffic in newbridge today , couldn’t get in or out if it , all approach roads were at a complete standstill around 2pm ..

Fuel in Applegreen was 24.7c for an hour at 2pm. Naas was chaos at 3pm for the same reason

harr · 24-07-2020 7:07pm

Darc19 wrote: »

Possibly a funeral. They cause havoc if it's a walking cortege.

Maybe, was told it could have been apple green with a promotion price on fuel.. 20c a litre or something. If it was apple green crazy they are allowed let traffic build like that.

Cazale · 28-07-2020 8:18am

Aldi will be opening in March 2021.

WishUWereHere · 29-07-2020 5:56am

Cazale wrote: »

Aldi will be opening in March 2021.

Excavation work really taken off now. Pity they won’t be open in time for Christmas.

Going to traffic chaos though. Thanks

silver2020 · 29-07-2020 9:15am

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Excavation work really taken off now. Pity they won’t be open in time for Christmas.

Going to traffic chaos though. Thanks

This traffic argument comes up on almost every store Lidl & Aldi open. It was particularly to the fore in Castleknock where there were protests - and its been open many months with zero traffic issues.

Yet I've yet to see any Lidl or Aldi store cause any traffic issues anywhere.

Their model is based on a quick in and out in comparison to the likes of Tesco, so traffic movements are more spaced out which causes less congestion.

I can't see any traffic issue here. Customers will be able to park in the aldi carpark itself (small), the Newbridge retail park carpark & walk through or the Courtyard multi storey car park.

And remember, Lidl used to be in the courtyard center and didn't cause any traffic chaos.

GavMan · 29-07-2020 9:32am

silver2020 wrote: »

This traffic argument comes up on almost every store Lidl & Aldi open. It was particularly to the fore in Castleknock where there were protests - and its been open many months with zero traffic issues.

Yet I've yet to see any Lidl or Aldi store cause any traffic issues anywhere.

Their model is based on a quick in and out in comparison to the likes of Tesco, so traffic movements are more spaced out which causes less congestion.

I can't see any traffic issue here. Customers will be able to park in the aldi carpark itself (small), the Newbridge retail park carpark & walk through or the Courtyard multi storey car park.

And remember, Lidl used to be in the courtyard center and didn't cause any traffic chaos.

I think the issue is that by creating an additional junction, you'll have people stopping to turn right and cross the road to enter Aldi. People on the other side stopping to let them make that manoeuvre or allowing people to leave the carpark turning left or right, thus slowing down traffic coming out the town and coming into the town.

Chaos...probably not but certainly will add to the traffic issues in the town

silver2020 · 29-07-2020 10:31am

GavMan wrote: »

I think the issue is that by creating an additional junction, you'll have people stopping to turn right and cross the road to enter Aldi. People on the other side stopping to let them make that manoeuvre or allowing people to leave the carpark turning left or right, thus slowing down traffic coming out the town and coming into the town.

Chaos...probably not but certainly will add to the traffic issues in the town

I don't buy that argument. Very little issue with the turn into whitewater and there's multiple number of traffic going there than an aldi store and the road is wide enough for cars to keep left of those turning right, unlike at whitewater.

Competitors always put the fear of people up with the "traffic" argument. I can't think of any locations where this argument has been borne out and Castleknock would have been a prime contender with narrow road and a single entrance/exit. So I can't see aldi in Newbridge with three ways of accessing it, causing any additional traffic issues.

Naturally there will be for the 1st week as people visit the new store, but that's normal in almost every location for any supermarket.

Damien360 · 29-07-2020 11:40am

I can't remember the PP for that site but if they make it a through road from main St and out past SuperValu then it will be mad.

Before Covid, every single weekend from the post office all the way to McLoughlin's was standstill. Inbound from Keadeen to Dunnes was all stop. Athgarvan road inbound to whitewater back entrance was also standstill. The traffic plan filters everything into main St instead of getting it away or quickly back out. Lidl/Aldi is not the issue, it's the overall plan. The day they made all the traffic come down athgarvan road and past the whitewater and enter into main Street, every single person said that was ridiculous and it should go the other way. Too many junctions in short bursts don't help.

GavMan · 29-07-2020 2:36pm

silver2020 wrote: »

I don't buy that argument. Very little issue with the turn into whitewater and there's multiple number of traffic going there than an aldi store and the road is wide enough for cars to keep left of those turning right, unlike at whitewater.

Competitors always put the fear of people up with the "traffic" argument. I can't think of any locations where this argument has been borne out and Castleknock would have been a prime contender with narrow road and a single entrance/exit. So I can't see aldi in Newbridge with three ways of accessing it, causing any additional traffic issues.

Naturally there will be for the 1st week as people visit the new store, but that's normal in almost every location for any supermarket.

I fail to see how adding a junction on road where there already too many junctions close together will not exacerbate the current issues. And with the onstreet parking there, there will be no room for traffic to pass on the inside when inbound to the town

silver2020 · 29-07-2020 6:55pm

Damien360 wrote: »

I can't remember the PP for that site but if they make it a through road from main St and out past SuperValu then it will be mad.

Just a walkway through from Aldi to the retail park / courtyard area

GavMan wrote: »

I fail to see how adding a junction on road where there already too many junctions close together will not exacerbate the current issues. And with the onstreet parking there, there will be no room for traffic to pass on the inside when inbound to the town

Just checked the planning. No new junction, it uses the lane that is there and the aldi entrance is on to the lane. Total of 70 parking spaces. To give a comparison, Aldi Kildare town has 110 spaces.

GavMan · 30-07-2020 11:59am

silver2020 wrote: »

Just a walkway through from Aldi to the retail park / courtyard area

Just checked the planning. No new junction, it uses the lane that is there and the aldi entrance is on to the lane. Total of 70 parking spaces. To give a comparison, Aldi Kildare town has 110 spaces.

Is so infrequently used, it might aswell not be there. It will soon have plenty of use. Time will tell I suppose

tommyboy26 · 30-07-2020 12:19pm

That whole area where aldi is going will be totally different.

There has been planning permission approved for a while for the development of the courtyard shopping center which will have a road that will go through the current courtyard shopping center car park and come out beside lidl. KCC planning page wont work for me so i cant see the paperwork but i think there is access to aldi from that side as well but not 100 percent on that

Damien360 · 30-07-2020 12:26pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

That whole area where aldi is going will be totally different.

There has been planning permission approved for a while for the development of the courtyard shopping center which will have a road that will go through the current courtyard shopping center car park and come out beside lidl. KCC planning page wont work for me so i cant see the paperwork but i think there is access to aldi from that side as well but not 100 percent on that

I thought there were objections to the plan as it involved knocking down the corner building where Kavanaghs was and push through road there. That must be 2 years old as a plan by now.

tommyboy26 · 30-07-2020 12:32pm

Damien360 wrote: »

I thought there were objections to the plan as it involved knocking down the corner building where Kavanaghs was and push through road there. That must be 2 years old as a plan by now.

there was objections and they were overturned.

that is why kavanaghs moved to the old terry michaels shop

richiek83 · 30-07-2020 3:13pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

there was objections and they were overturned.

that is why kavanaghs moved to the old terry michaels shop

Some pics from KCC website I posted a few years ago on Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/richardkellynewbridge/posts/321683178339393?__xts__[0]=68.ARCIu_-_RGjevI_lovIWBTWBzW-cP9oFzpiaLqj-TLjlHmLrndEIPFOW5kfLR2690qg43kSHkv2Db2arWtJIcw5xpLRbSApMI-yrjvCwc4OnDNx9oUYXxO6Fl0i19QDUm6F95Dy-95zb8I393atFv6E4z-uikSuTRvtZk1OhrgPdQZaKz2p7cFsce0BFt6Yduv5OaBP9eow1ePGL8KUNkj6CK3GTqFCy9ucvGqukJC3NbZBpkR_qIq45zyi9vXBZFgk32fTlUevpF553U4aH5wuf2nToIwPHLwvJVf8K3Y44kE_IkPQkBN6lUAKWbdul9f2y1emMGDQ4SqRXEOGFxIU&__tn__=-R

silver2020 · 30-07-2020 3:37pm

The grand plan looks great and it will introduce a new streetscape from courtyard into the retail park. It may even alleviate traffic a small bit as you can park in one location and access everything - Whitewater, Pennys & the main street, The courtyard, DID/Supervalu etc, and Aldi.

tommyboy26 · 30-07-2020 4:59pm

richiek83 wrote: »

Some pics from KCC website I posted a few years ago on Facebook.

any idea what the hold up is richie?

tommyboy26 · 30-07-2020 5:26pm

finally got the kcc website to work

richiek83 · 31-07-2020 12:21am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

any idea what the hold up is richie?

I believe its a number of factors such as current market conditions which for retail is quite turbulent at present and development finance.

I think the idea of the masterplan was to extend the retail park in that direction first (towards Courtyard SC) and then start the Courtyard extension. This is all however subject to market conditions. I heard the Treacy Group were having difficulties in the early years of planning approval obtaining finance but the fact that Aldi development has now commenced may kick start something.

The retail park extension has more retail warehouse units but a gradual introduction of residential and office/ commercial as it heads towards the Courtyard.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is an amended application at some point to include far more residential with the Governments Town Centre first initiative.

What we all know is that there is significant scope in Newbridge Town Centre for additional development and residential development, future of town centres will have to have far more residential to maintain some vibrancy. On another note and in that vicinity, the KCC machinery yard is being moved to Newhall so that site will eventually come to the market and the Design Brief for the area mentions that whatever development that occurs must wrap around and essentially hide the multi-storey car park. This will be an interesting one to watch.

silver2020 · 31-07-2020 9:33am

Here's some digital images.

Looks like there's a new street that will allow you come out at Lidl too.
These images show the view if you were standing opposite DID and also the view if you were standing in front of dealz.

I think besides the economic holdup, the main hold up was in getting all the different planning elements together so that it can be built as one single project.

WishUWereHere · 01-08-2020 9:11am

Credit where it’s due:

Just passed Brennan’s service station. Not sure if the drive through is open or not-well it was only 09h00.

Impressive though!

WishUWereHere · 07-08-2020 9:30pm

This lockdown is probably the last thing WhiteWater needs.

Meanwhile, it’s ok for racing to go ahead on the Curragh???

Oh and this shower making decisions closed the test centre.ðŸ˜±

Damien360 · 07-08-2020 9:34pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

This lockdown is probably the last thing WhiteWater needs.

Meanwhile, it’s ok for racing to go ahead on the Curragh???

Lots of small local businesses getting hammered again. The horsey crowd on curragh travel from all over ireland to race. I can’t understand why it’s ok for them.

WishUWereHere · 07-08-2020 10:28pm

Damien360 wrote: »

Lots of small local businesses getting hammered again. The horsey crowd on curragh travel from all over ireland to race. I can’t understand why it’s ok for them.

That’s what makes me wonder. Unless ALL the horses are from Kildare, Laois, or Offaly. Heard this evening that traffic travelling from Dublin to Cork, Limerick etc. will not be permitted to stop in either of the 3 counties, yet horses can be brought from any county?

aodh_rua · 08-08-2020 10:19am

Says a lot about politics in the area when we have a junior minister in the department of agriculture and food, and he didn't prioritise conditions in meat plants given the global precedent and the number of facilities in the county.

I presume Patricia Ryan is still on holidays.

WishUWereHere · 08-08-2020 10:36am

aodh_rua wrote: »

Says a lot about politics in the area when we have a junior minister in the department of agriculture and food, and he didn't prioritise conditions in meat plants given the global precedent and the number of facilities in the county.

I presume Patricia Ryan is still on holidays.

And if she is, she might as well stay there for all the 'noise' she has made since her 'promotion'. I haven't heard a word from her since. Even heard Cathal Berry on the radio yesterday.

WishUWereHere · 08-08-2020 10:42am

WishUWereHere wrote: »

This lockdown is probably the last thing WhiteWater needs.

On this, I hear another shop has closed it's doors in WW....clothes shop beside Eason's, 21 I believe it's called.

silver2020 · 08-08-2020 10:56am

WishUWereHere wrote: »

This lockdown is probably the last thing WhiteWater needs.

Meanwhile, it’s ok for racing to go ahead on the Curragh???

Oh and this shower making decisions closed the test centre.&#55357;&#56881;

Whitewater is open. Retailers are permitted to stay open.

The horse racing is not open to the public and as its not a contact sport, you could say that they are going to work.

Very strict measures are in place in the curragh too.

And it is specifically permitted in the regulations

"Professional and elite sports and horseracing may continue behind closed doors;"

You don't want an overbearing lockdown, but you do want one that reminds people how dangerous this virus is and it send out a message to everyone in the country.

The big elephant in the room is what will the virus be like as we head into winter - currently no-one knows and that's scary. I think Ireland will be fine and Bumbling Boris has finally woken up to the seriousness for the UK, but America could be ravaged and the gov should look at banning travel from the USA.

WishUWereHere · 08-08-2020 11:14am

silver2020 wrote: »

Whitewater is open. Retailers are permitted to stay open.

The horse racing is not open to the public and as its not a contact sport, you could say that they are going to work.

Very strict measures are in place in the curragh too.

And it is specifically permitted in the regulations

"Professional and elite sports and horseracing may continue behind closed doors;"

You don't want an overbearing lockdown, but you do want one that reminds people how dangerous this virus is and it send out a message to everyone in the country.

The big elephant in the room is what will the virus be like as we head into winter - currently no-one knows and that's scary. I think Ireland will be fine and Bumbling Boris has finally woken up to the seriousness for the UK, but America could be ravaged and the gov should look at banning travel from the USA.

I don't know a whole lot about horse racing. I was supposed to be going for my first family meal ( in six months ) in The Hanged Man next Saturday night. Pat texted me last night and one could feel the sadness through the text.

So, it's not okay for Him ( and all other restaurants ) to be open but it IS okay for horses to come from anywhere in the country along with their minders - perhaps even from overseas, but as I say I know nothing about horses so can't confirm or deny )? Sorry, but for me priorities are all wrong here.

TOTALLY agree with You on DT though ( Domestos Trump)..

silver2020 · 08-08-2020 11:57am

WishUWereHere wrote: »

but as I say I know nothing about horses so can't confirm or deny )? Sorry, but for me priorities are all wrong here.

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Don't take this personally, but I would tend not to make comments on areas I would not have knowledge of. So far NPHET have been quite good on their calls and politicians have accepted their expertise, so if they say Horse racing can operate safely behind closed doors, then that's good for me.

If you think of it, they leave their yards and go directly behind the closed doors of the curragh, so there should be no issue. Its also a partial lockdown and its mostly concerning social aspects of life, so where something is behind closed doors with strict protocols, it should be allowed to continue.

harr · 08-08-2020 12:14pm

aodh_rua wrote: »

Says a lot about politics in the area when we have a junior minister in the department of agriculture and food, and he didn't prioritise conditions in meat plants given the global precedent and the number of facilities in the county.

I presume Patricia Ryan is still on holidays.

No major fan of Sinn Fein but Ryan is one of the few I have seen speaking out on different issues a lot more vocal than certain others who got elected.

harr · 08-08-2020 12:15pm

silver2020 wrote: »

Don't take this personally, but I would tend not to make comments on areas I would not have knowledge of. So far NPHET have been quite good on their calls and politicians have accepted their expertise, so if they say Horse racing can operate safely behind closed doors, then that's good for me.

If you think of it, they leave their yards and go directly behind the closed doors of the curragh, so there should be no issue. Its also a partial lockdown and its mostly concerning social aspects of life, so where something is behind closed doors with strict protocols, it should be allowed to continue.

Plus you have horses travelling over from the UK ...

WishUWereHere · 08-08-2020 12:25pm

silver2020 wrote: »

Don't take this personally, but I would tend not to make comments on areas I would not have knowledge of. So far NPHET have been quite good on their calls and politicians have accepted their expertise, so if they say Horse racing can operate safely behind closed doors, then that's good for me.

If you think of it, they leave their yards and go directly behind the closed doors of the curragh, so there should be no issue. Its also a partial lockdown and its mostly concerning social aspects of life, so where something is behind closed doors with strict protocols, it should be allowed to continue.

I respect Your opinion Silver2020 & I ask that You respect mine purely as a layman. For me, staging a race meeting while restaurants cannot open, churches cannot hold masses etc is madness.

And now according to Harr, there are horses also coming from the UK? That canNOT be right in any persons reasoning.

My Niece had a baby girl a month ago, and we are now prevented from seeing either Mom or Daughter. My next door neighbour has a baby 5 months old. Had arranged for Baptism next Saturday, that's all gone now, but we can hold a race meeting?

I'm sorry but that's just not right.

Damien360 · 08-08-2020 12:27pm

harr wrote: »

Plus you have horses travelling over from the UK ...

I don’t think so. I pass the yard where the various horse boxes park up pretty much every day. I haven’t seen UK reg boxes in a while.

silver2020 · 08-08-2020 12:56pm

harr wrote: »

Plus you have horses travelling over from the UK ...

WishUWereHere wrote: »

I respect Your opinion Silver2020 & I ask that You respect mine purely as a layman. For me, staging a race meeting while restaurants cannot open, churches cannot hold masses etc is madness.

And now according to Harr, there are horses also coming from the UK? That canNOT be right in any persons reasoning.

That's the problem. People will write stuff on a forum or facebook and others believe it without questioning.

I had a quick look at tomorrow's card, not one UK trained horse is running. So that totally proves against "according to Harr". And you can check the card yourself - all owners, trainers and jockeys are all displayed (as they always are)

Remember the race meeting does not have any members of the public at it. No bars open, no restaurant open, no bookies. Every single person entering is known and their details are on record and it's also outdoor.

Churches and restaurants are indoor and people are in that indoor space for a prolonged period. If a local priest wanted to say masss outside, I would not expect that would be an issue.

Parks and outdoor recreation is open in Kildare. The National stud is open and you can get takeaway lunches there. All the public park and recreation areas are open to everyone - all these are in open space just like the curragh races.

roy rodgers · 08-08-2020 7:53pm

silver2020 wrote: »

That's the problem. People will write stuff on a forum or facebook and others believe it without questioning.

I had a quick look at tomorrow's card, not one UK trained horse is running. So that totally proves against "according to Harr". And you can check the card yourself - all owners, trainers and jockeys are all displayed (as they always are)

Remember the race meeting does not have any members of the public at it. No bars open, no restaurant open, no bookies. Every single person entering is known and their details are on record and it's also outdoor.

Churches and restaurants are indoor and people are in that indoor space for a prolonged period. If a local priest wanted to say masss outside, I would not expect that would be an issue.

Parks and outdoor recreation is open in Kildare. The National stud is open and you can get takeaway lunches there. All the public park and recreation areas are open to everyone - all these are in open space just like the curragh races.

Richard Hannon and Michael Bell have runners in the only race I looked at for tomorrow and they are both coming from the u.k.. you obviously don't know your trainers

The horse racing should not go ahead tomorrow but it is, because its run by multi millionaires and they want to keep playing with their toys. While the rest of us have to follow the government guidelines. its pure two faced!!!.

Government were also told by NPHET in April 8th i think that meat processing plants nursing homes and provision centers need to be ring fenced as soon as possible but they didnt do anything about it and now we have a pandemic going on because the government didn't want to upset one of there biggest doners and its the little people that are gonna suffer once again.

WishUWereHere · 08-08-2020 9:16pm

silver2020 wrote: »

That's the problem. People will write stuff on a forum or facebook and others believe it without questioning.

I had a quick look at tomorrow's card, not one UK trained horse is running. So that totally proves against "according to Harr". And you can check the card yourself - all owners, trainers and jockeys are all displayed (as they always are)

Remember the race meeting does not have any members of the public at it. No bars open, no restaurant open, no bookies. Every single person entering is known and their details are on record and it's also outdoor.

Churches and restaurants are indoor and people are in that indoor space for a prolonged period. If a local priest wanted to say masss outside, I would not expect that would be an issue.

Parks and outdoor recreation is open in Kildare. The National stud is open and you can get takeaway lunches there. All the public park and recreation areas are open to everyone - all these are in open space just like the curragh races.

As I said already, I know SFA about horse racing. However there are 2 horses racing in the 15h10: One is named Ventura Tormenta & the other is The Lir Jet. Both have in brackets after their names ( in GB ). I what do those 2 letters mean if there are no UK racers.

On another note altogether just back from shopping at Tesco’s. While waiting for my turn to check out, had a look at the journal website. Truly shocking figures. BUT I would guess at least 30%were not wearing masks. I commented to the cashier - who was visored- and Her reply? “Thank God it’s law from Monday.”

I really wonder do some people have a death wishðŸ˜±

WishUWereHere · 08-08-2020 9:26pm

roy rodgers wrote: »

Richard Hannon and Michael Bell have runners in the only race I looked at for tomorrow and they are both coming from the u.k.. you obviously don't know your trainers

The horse racing should not go ahead tomorrow but it is, because its run by multi millionaires and they want to keep playing with their toys. While the rest of us have to follow the government guidelines. its pure two faced!!!.

Government were also told by NPHET in April 8th i think that meat processing plants nursing homes and provision centers need to be ring fenced as soon as possible but they didnt do anything about it and now we have a pandemic going on because the government didn't want to upset one of there biggest doners and its the little people that are gonna suffer once again.

Agree totally. I also saw the name AO’Brien after I think 2 horses. When I was growing up I know V. O’Brien lived in in Tipperary . After the shock of the numbers this evening, I’m not sure bringing horses from other counties is a wise decision or not. Also are all the jockeys Irish? I don’ know but I do know this meeting tomorrow should NOT be allowed to go ahead.

WishUWereHere · 08-08-2020 9:34pm

aodh_rua wrote: »

Says a lot about politics in the area when we have a junior minister in the department of agriculture and food, and he didn't prioritise conditions in meat plants given the global precedent and the number of facilities in the county.

I presume Patricia Ryan is still on holidays.

Sadly Newbridge isn’t far enough South to interest Heyden.

Damien360 · 08-08-2020 9:40pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

As I said already, I know SFA about horse racing. However there are 2 horses racing in the 15h10: One is named Ventura Tormenta & the other is The Lir Jet. Both have in brackets after their names ( in GB ). I what do those 2 letters mean if there are no UK racers.

On another note altogether just back from shopping at Tesco’s. While waiting for my turn to check out, had a look at the journal website. Truly shocking figures. BUT I would guess at least 30%were not wearing masks. I commented to the cashier - who was visored- and Her reply? “Thank God it’s law from Monday.”

I really wonder do some people have a death wishðŸ˜±

I was in Lidl Kildare this morning at 8am. Every single person had a mask on. There is a cohort of people that don’t wear a mask in a store and they tend to be late risers ! The message is not getting through to those under 30.

roy rodgers · 08-08-2020 11:21pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Agree totally. I also saw the name AO’Brien after I think 2 horses. When I was growing up I know V. O’Brien lived in in Tipperary . After the shock of the numbers this evening, I’m not sure bringing horses from other counties is a wise decision or not. Also are all the jockeys Irish? I don’ know but I do know this meeting tomorrow should NOT be allowed to go ahead.

In fairness the jockeys aren't moving around as much as they used too but some are i havent looked at who's riding tomorrow yet..

your right in saying that tomorrow meeting should not go ahead because it feels like its one law for one and another law for others and people are seeing that now.
If this was France people would block the roads to the curragh and make sure the meeting can't go ahead because we are either in it together or we are not And us living on an island bringing in people for a horse race isn't gonna help the problem.

silver2020 · 09-08-2020 12:30pm

roy rodgers wrote: »

In fairness the jockeys aren't moving around as much as they used too but some are i havent looked at who's riding tomorrow yet..

your right in saying that tomorrow meeting should not go ahead because it feels like its one law for one and another law for others and people are seeing that now.
If this was France people would block the roads to the curragh and make sure the meeting can't go ahead because we are either in it together or we are not And us living on an island bringing in people for a horse race isn't gonna help the problem.

The racing is 100% controlled, Its outdoors - there is no ban for outdoor activity in Kildare except contact sports. There's no ban on movement for work (all those at the Curragh have travelled for work purposes) and there's no ban on shopping either.

So it is not one regulation for some and one for another. Same regulations apply to everyone. (A law under statute giving effect to the Kildare lockdown does not come into effect until tomorrow)

and I've gone through the entire card and there are 3 UK horses in the entire card from 2 UK trainers. But the jockeys are local and neither trainer is here. So there won't be "a load of UK reg horse boxes" at the curragh

There are plenty of British tourists in Ireland too.

WishUWereHere · 09-08-2020 12:52pm

silver2020 wrote: »

The racing is 100% controlled, Its outdoors - there is no ban for outdoor activity in Kildare except contact sports. There's no ban on movement for work (all those at the Curragh have travelled for work purposes) and there's no ban on shopping either.

So it is not one regulation for some and one for another. Same regulations apply to everyone. (A law under statute giving effect to the Kildare lockdown does not come into effect until tomorrow)

and I've gone through the entire card and there are 3 UK horses in the entire card from 2 UK trainers. But the jockeys are local and neither trainer is here. So there won't be "a load of UK reg horse boxes" at the curragh

There are plenty of British tourists in Ireland too.

That's fair enough. BUT, You were checking someone here yesterday when they said there are UK horses, & you were adamant there weren't. Now you have checked the card and said there are 3, I have no idea as I said yesterday racing isn't my forte, I just think you owe that other person an apology. Also, how are you so convinced those 2 trainers are not here?

Sorry, there are far too many contradictions these days...not with you alone. I thought the lockdown came into force at midnight on Friday - it certainly did as there were checkpoints outside St. Conleth's yesterday along with on the Athgarvan road.

silver2020 · 09-08-2020 2:35pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Sorry, there are far too many contradictions these days...not with you alone. I thought the lockdown came into force at midnight on Friday - it certainly did as there were checkpoints outside St. Conleth's yesterday along with on the Athgarvan road.

The legal powers have to be signed into law and that will not be done until tomorrow.

Edit - it was signed into law yesterday however there is no penalty for not doing so and the gardai have said that they will be "advising" people not to go further but "there will be no enforcement element"

WishUWereHere · 09-08-2020 5:07pm

silver2020 wrote: »

The legal powers have to be signed into law and that will not be done until tomorrow.

Edit - it was signed into law yesterday however there is no penalty for not doing so and the gardai have said that they will be "advising" people not to go further but "there will be no enforcement element"

Yes, it was signed into law at midnight on Friday. SI 295 of 2020. I guess it's purely up to the individual Garda as to if one can travel or not.

I notice you forgot to comment on my comment above about the UK horses/trainers.

You are the person who said to me yesterday:

Don't take this personally, but I would tend not to make comments on areas I would not have knowledge of.

Then Harr commented about UK horses/trainers coming over, to which You replied:

That's the problem. People will write stuff on a forum or facebook and others believe it without questioning.

I had a quick look at tomorrow's card, not one UK trained horse is running. So that totally proves against "according to Harr". And you can check the card yourself - all owners, trainers and jockeys are all displayed (as they always are)

Then earlier today You commented after myself and another poster stated there ARE UK horses/trainers at the meeting today:

and I've gone through the entire card and there are 3 UK horses in the entire card from 2 UK trainers. But the jockeys are local and neither trainer is here. So there won't be "a load of UK reg horse boxes" at the curragh.

Can I ask why is when someone else makes a comment you find it necessary to make comments like above yet when it's You who was wrong with your comments You give the impression that You just fob it off?

Again I think you owe Harr an apology and I ask You think carefully when you make comments like above again.

I am sure everybody can disagree with someone, after all whats a discussion all about, but when someone comes on and insinuates that others didn't check properly before making statements yet they didn't check themselves, well it leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

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