2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

kilns · 15-07-2020 1:37pm

Washington Post have revealed their findings that the US Government has spent USD970k at Trump properties since he became president.

No corruption here...........................................

ohnonotgmail · 15-07-2020 1:42pm

kilns wrote: »

Washington Post have revealed their findings that the US Government has spent USD970k at Trump properties since he became president.

No corruption here...........................................

that figure is a crock. every time trump golfs at mar a lago the Secret Service is billed by the resort for rooms, food, drink, golf carts at rack rates. there is no way the real figure is that low.

eeepaulo · 15-07-2020 1:45pm

kilns wrote: »

Washington Post have revealed their findings that the US Government has spent USD970k at Trump properties since he became president.

No corruption here...........................................

He charges the US $650 per secret service agent per night to stay at his golf club. I think he charges a fortune to rent them golf carts as well.

Something something good business man, but don't look too closely.

timsey tiger · 15-07-2020 1:46pm

notobtuse wrote: »

An indication why Trump will win, well, to me anyway. Trump spoke at a rally in Wildwood, New Jersey this week. The venue holds 7,400 people, but there were 158,632 requests for tickets to the event. New Jersey is a Democrat stronghold and always considered a safe Democratic bet. The most surprising news in all this is of 73,482 identifiable voters who requested tickets, 10.4% didn't vote in 2016, and 26.3% were self-described Democrats.

Events dear boy events

Muahahaha · 15-07-2020 5:39pm

kilns wrote: »

Washington Post have revealed their findings that the US Government has spent USD970k at Trump properties since he became president.

No corruption here...........................................

No way do I believe he has only benefitted to the tune of 970k. Only a month after he got elected Saudi Arabia spent a small fortune on hotel rooms in his Washington hotel.

Lobbyists representing the Saudi government reserved blocks of rooms at President Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel within a month of Trump’s election in 2016 — paying for an estimated 500 nights at the luxury hotel in just three months, according to organizers of the trips and documents obtained by The Washington Post.

At the time, these lobbyists were reserving large numbers of D.C.-area hotel rooms as part of an unorthodox campaign that offered U.S. military veterans a free trip to Washington — then sent them to Capitol Hill to lobby against a law the Saudis opposed, according to veterans and organizers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/saudi-funded-lobbyist-paid-for-500-rooms-at-trumps-hotel-after-2016-election/2018/12/05/29603a64-f417-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.html

kilns wrote: »

The Lincoln Project out with another great ad attacking Trump and praising Fauci. They really know how to make Trump look like a fool and if only turns a tiny percentage of those who voted for Trump the last time it will be job done

I cant fathom how any American with a brain can side with Trump over Fauci.

That is a good ad, the narration is very sober and stark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=93&v=-6wIOKaHMWo&feature=emb_logo

ChikiChiki · 15-07-2020 5:53pm

kilns wrote: »

Washington Post have revealed their findings that the US Government has spent USD970k at Trump properties since he became president.

No corruption here...........................................

I'm surprised its that low

Kidchameleon · 15-07-2020 6:31pm

kilns wrote: »

Washington Post have revealed their findings that the US Government has spent USD970k at Trump properties since he became president.

No corruption here...........................................

970k is pocket change to Trump. If he was pulling a fast one, he'd do it for more than that. Just for a bit of context, the tax payer paid about 50/55 million per term on travel and accommodation for Obama. I get it, the money should not be going into Trump's pocket, I agree with that. But if the tax payer is getting a cheaper deal then its not the worst thing in the world.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4889306/Obamas-total-travel-bill-office-hits-105-MILLION.html

kilns · 15-07-2020 6:31pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I'm surprised its that low

I guess it’s just the federal government. Doesn’t include lobbyists, other nations and the Republican Party

Even with that some hotels are in big trouble financially

extra gravy · 15-07-2020 6:36pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

970k is pocket change to Trump. If he was pulling a fast one, he'd do it for more than that. Just for a bit of context, the tax payer paid about 50/55 million per term on travel and accommodation for Obama. I get it, the money should not be going into Trump's pocket, I agree with that. But if the tax payer is getting a cheaper deal then its not the worst thing in the world.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4889306/Obamas-total-travel-bill-office-hits-105-MILLION.html

Weren't you the one complaining about someone using Wikipedia as as a source, yet here you are linking that rag.

Overheal · 15-07-2020 6:40pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

970k is pocket change to Trump. If he was pulling a fast one, he'd do it for more than that. Just for a bit of context, the tax payer paid about 50/55 million per term on travel and accommodation for Obama. I get it, the money should not be going into Trump's pocket, I agree with that. But if the tax payer is getting a cheaper deal then its not the worst thing in the world.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4889306/Obamas-total-travel-bill-office-hits-105-MILLION.html

They're not, and the $970,000 figure WaPo is looking at is Trump property spending specifically for room rentals alone. Golf carts are another separate line item, and cost $588,000 between Trumps election and January 2020 (Wapo link below)

Just 1 month in 2017 taxpayer burden for Trump's travel was $13.6 million, which is about 13x the rate of Obama's term figures you just mentioned. 2 months into Trumps term in office the Secret Service went to Congress and had to ask for a $60M budget increase "to manage presidential travel"

It's not a wonder then that the Trump administration is trying to go to some considerable effort to hide more transparent reporting of these expenses, delaying measures to report the expenditures through the treasury department until FY 2021, after the election:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/trump-wants-to-hide-secret-service-cost-of-family-trips.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-company-has-received-at-least-970000-from-us-taxpayers-for-room-rentals/2020/05/14/26d27862-916d-11ea-9e23-6914ee410a5f_story.html

Overheal · 15-07-2020 6:57pm

Laura Ingraham had a nutcase on today, and didn't seem to object to what she was saying in criticism of school closures:

"These [teachers] unions are actually using our schools to sexualize our children and to train them and anti-American ideology [...] They do this with a coalition of almost 180 organizations, including, sadly, the CDC, Planned Parenthood, and Black Lives Matter Inc. It is shocking what they were teaching our children online through virtual learning. They are teaching our children to sext, to view pornography, they are hooking them up with online sex experts. So what they are doing is grooming our children for sexual predators to use them. This is child abuse…This is one of the big reasons that unions want to keep our schools closed, because they can sneak these evil lessons past loving teachers who have no idea of keeping them virtual."

Of course now the righties will pick this up and use it to contort their own worldview. Gross. Just throwing out the names of scapegoats to boogeyman and conjuring fearmongering fantasy, they want parents more afraid of imagined sex predators than of the actual pandemic.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-guest-claims-online-learning-is-grooming-our-children-for-sexual-predators/

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2020 8:45am

for every other president in history hawking beans from the resolute desk would be an all time low. not for trump though

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrAzKiBFUQ/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading

kilns · 16-07-2020 9:39am

Overheal wrote: »

They're not, and the $970,000 figure WaPo is looking at is Trump property spending specifically for room rentals alone. Golf carts are another separate line item, and cost $588,000 between Trumps election and January 2020 (Wapo link below)

Just 1 month in 2017 taxpayer burden for Trump's travel was $13.6 million, which is about 13x the rate of Obama's term figures you just mentioned. 2 months into Trumps term in office the Secret Service went to Congress and had to ask for a $60M budget increase "to manage presidential travel"

It's not a wonder then that the Trump administration is trying to go to some considerable effort to hide more transparent reporting of these expenses, delaying measures to report the expenditures through the treasury department until FY 2021, after the election:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/trump-wants-to-hide-secret-service-cost-of-family-trips.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-company-has-received-at-least-970000-from-us-taxpayers-for-room-rentals/2020/05/14/26d27862-916d-11ea-9e23-6914ee410a5f_story.html

He is one of the biggest scam artists the world has ever known and Howard Stern (who was a friend) was right by saying this was all a big publicity stunt but now he is milking it for all its worth.

To date according to FEC filings since 2016 the MAGA fund raising committee has paid USD17.4m to Trump properties and businesses. Those in the Trump base who donate their USD50 or whateever to the campaign might as well walk into one of his hotels and just put the cash directly into the till

In 5/10 years time people will look back on this and think how were scammed by this

WrenBoy · 16-07-2020 10:17am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

for every other president in history hawking beans from the resolute desk would be an all time low. not for trump though

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrAzKiBFUQ/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading

Its more to do with the backlash Robert Unanue got for openly supporting Trump, as he's latino he shouldn't do that apparently. He's the owner of Goya foods and people have called for a boycott because of his heinous crime.

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2020 10:20am

WrenBoy wrote: »

Its more to do with the backlash Robert Unanue got for openly supporting Trump, as he's latino he shouldn't do that apparently. He's the owner of Goya foods and people have called for a boycott because of his heinous crime.

the president is hawking beans from the resolute desk. his daughter did the same. somehow you think is acceptable. trump supporters really dont have a bottom do you?

WrenBoy · 16-07-2020 10:24am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the president is hawking beans from the resolute desk. his daughter did the same. somehow you think is acceptable. trump supporters really dont have a bottom do you?

He's showing support for Robert Unanue the owner of Goya Foods who vocally supported Trump and people attacked Unanue for it. Its pretty basic election PR for Trump who is placing himself on the side of a Latino US business against the cancel culture mob. Its basic stuff like but if you want to boil it down to "Trump sell bean" work away man, just pretty ignorant of the actual story. Im Irish so I don't really care who wins over there btw.

weisses · 16-07-2020 10:26am

WrenBoy wrote: »

Its more to do with the backlash Robert Unanue got for openly supporting Trump, as he's latino he shouldn't do that apparently. He's the owner of Goya foods and people have called for a boycott because of his heinous crime.

Freedom of speech works both ways ... just saying

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2020 10:26am

WrenBoy wrote: »

He's showing support for Robert Unanue the owner of Goya Foods who vocally supported Trump and people attacked Unanue for it. Its pretty basic election PR for Trump who is placing himself on the side of a Latino US business against the cancel culture mob. Its basic stuff like but if you want to boil it down to "Trump sell bean" work away man, just pretty ignorant of the actual story. Im Irish so I don't really care who wins over there btw.

if it is election PR then he shouldn't be doing it. It is an offence to campaign on federal property. More casual law breaking from trump.

WrenBoy · 16-07-2020 10:28am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if it is election PR then he shouldn't be doing it. It is an offence to campaign on federal property. More casual law breaking from trump.

He's the divil alright, bloody rogue so he is.

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-07-2020 10:30am

WrenBoy wrote: »

He's showing support for Robert Unanue the owner of Goya Foods who vocally supported Trump and people attacked Unanue for it. Its pretty basic election PR for Trump who is placing himself on the side of a Latino US business against the cancel culture mob. Its basic stuff like but if you want to boil it down to "Trump sell bean" work away man, just pretty ignorant of the actual story. Im Irish so I don't really care who wins over there btw.

he's sitting at the desk that some of the greatest American Presidents have used, with packets of beans in front of him and smiling like a child that has been told he is off to Mcdonald's for dinner. Do you not even see how this debases the office of the president and makes a mockery of it?

hotmail.com · 16-07-2020 10:46am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

he's sitting at the desk that some of the greatest American Presidents have used, with packets of beans in front of him and smiling like a child that has been told he is off to Mcdonald's for dinner. Do you not even see how this debases the office of the president and makes a mockery of it?

America has had great presidents?

duploelabs · 16-07-2020 10:49am

hotmail.com wrote: »

America has had great presidents?

Certainly better individuals than the incumbent

WrenBoy · 16-07-2020 10:50am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

he's sitting at the desk that some of the greatest American Presidents have used, with packets of beans in front of him and smiling like a child that has been told he is off to Mcdonald's for dinner. Do you not even see how this debases the office of the president and makes a mockery of it?

Not really but maybe I don't hold the office in as high a reverence as you do, its a non story to me really. Not like he's filming TV ads in the white house for it or anything. Probably takes a load of pics like this everyday no ?

circadian · 16-07-2020 10:54am

WrenBoy wrote: »

He's the divil alright, bloody rogue so he is.

I'd imagine the argument would be different if, say, Obama did it. There was outrage over ordering Dijon mustard for **** sake.

circadian · 16-07-2020 10:55am

WrenBoy wrote: »

Not really but maybe I don't hold the office in as high a reverence as you do, its a non story to me really. Not like he's filming TV ads in the white house for it or anything. Probably takes a load of pics like this everyday no ?

No.

Kidchameleon · 16-07-2020 10:58am

hotmail.com wrote: »

America has had great presidents?

For sure. The people of Libya can attest to that

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2020 10:59am

WrenBoy wrote: »

Not really but maybe I don't hold the office in as high a reverence as you do, its a non story to me really. Not like he's filming TV ads in the white house for it or anything. Probably takes a load of pics like this everyday no ?

no. and what exactly do you think he doing but advertising a product?

WrenBoy · 16-07-2020 11:00am

circadian wrote: »

I'd imagine the argument would be different if, say, Obama did it. There was outrage over ordering Dijon mustard for **** sake.

Really ? what happened ? Just Googled it, Christ... thats fairly pathetic ha

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2020 11:01am

circadian wrote: »

I'd imagine the argument would be different if, say, Obama did it. There was outrage over ordering Dijon mustard for **** sake.

not forgetting how much the GOP lost their **** when obama wore a tan suit.

Agent Smith · 16-07-2020 11:04am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

not forgetting how much the GOP lost their **** when obama wore a tan suit.

Neverforget #tangate

(tbh, i always thought it was a nice suit.....)

WrenBoy · 16-07-2020 11:05am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no. and what exactly do you think he doing but advertising a product?

Showing support for someone being punished for supporting him.

salmocab · 16-07-2020 11:06am

WrenBoy wrote: »

Showing support for someone being punished for supporting him.

Showing support would be maybe talking about him, sitting behind his products for a photo is advertising.

Quin_Dub · 16-07-2020 11:07am

circadian wrote: »

I'd imagine the argument would be different if, say, Obama did it. There was outrage over ordering Dijon mustard for **** sake.

WrenBoy wrote: »

Really ? what happened ?

Obama put Dijon Mustard on a burger and Fox went on about it for weeks , claiming that it meant he was elitist and out of touch because he didn't use ketchup like a "real american"

They also lost the plot when he wore a Tan suit to a press conference

WrenBoy · 16-07-2020 11:08am

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Obama put Dijon Mustard on a burger and Fox went on about it for weeks , claiming that it meant he was elitist and out of touch because he didn't use ketchup like a "real american"

They also lost the plot when he wore a Tan suit to a press conference

Ya I googled it since, pretty pathetic alright.

16-07-2020 11:14am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

for every other president in history hawking beans from the resolute desk would be an all time low. not for trump though

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrAzKiBFUQ/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading

FFS white house product placement! Is this how low US politics has sunk.

salmocab · 16-07-2020 11:23am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

FFS white house product placement! Is this how low US politics has sunk.

Yes

tigger123 · 16-07-2020 11:25am

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

for every other president in history hawking beans from the resolute desk would be an all time low. not for trump though

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCrAzKiBFUQ/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading

That can't be real, is it?

16-07-2020 11:28am

salmocab wrote: »

Yes

It's sad to think of some of the people who worked at that desk and did great things and then this orange clown comes in and starts hawking beans. Truly sad.

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2020 11:36am

tigger123 wrote: »

That can't be real, is it?

i included a link to the instagram page where trump posted it. it is very much real.

baaba maal · 16-07-2020 12:14pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

For sure. The people of Libya can attest to that

Or Nicaragua, Mexico, Chile, Iraq etc. Of all the disasterous interventions in other countries, you choose Libya. I get it- you don't like the previous incumbent (a massive disappointment to me, especally the second term). But don't pretend Trump good Obama bad, given the embarrassment of the North Korean escapades, for example.

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-07-2020 12:39pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

America has had great presidents?

Compared to Trump, America has had great chimpanzees.

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-07-2020 12:41pm

WrenBoy wrote: »

Not really but maybe I don't hold the office in as high a reverence as you do,

Trump doesn't either.

its a non story to me really. Not like he's filming TV ads in the white house for it or anything. Probably takes a load of pics like this everyday no ?

Yet, probably hasn't had the right offer.

Overheal · 16-07-2020 1:35pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

not forgetting how much the GOP lost their **** when obama wore a tan suit.

There were earnest discussions about invoking the 25th amendment from some corners.

KiKi III · 16-07-2020 1:41pm

It makes me feel kind of smug to know I’m smarter than the President of the USA.

Granted it’s a low bar.

Kidchameleon · 16-07-2020 1:44pm

baaba maal wrote: »

Or Nicaragua, Mexico, Chile, Iraq etc. Of all the disasterous interventions in other countries, you choose Libya. I get it- you don't like the previous incumbent (a massive disappointment to me, especally the second term). But don't pretend Trump good Obama bad, given the embarrassment of the North Korean escapades, for example.

Oh I'm even less of a fan of Bush and Clinton but some people here think Obama is God or something. He was a terrible president.

Kidchameleon · 16-07-2020 1:46pm

KiKi III wrote: »

It makes me feel kind of smug to know I’m smarter than the President of the USA.

Granted it’s a low bar.

Im sure if he read that, he'd be the smug one. How much are you worth? (rhetorical question)

KiKi III · 16-07-2020 1:47pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Oh I'm even less of a fan of Bush and Clinton but some people here think Obama is God or something. He was a terrible president.

I think a lot of Americans who thought he was a terrible president would have preferred to have him at the helm of Covid 19.

At the very least, you could count on him to read his security briefings and implement the advice of experts.

KiKi III · 16-07-2020 1:48pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Im sure if he read that, he'd be the smug one. How much are you worth? (rhetorical question)

Intelligence isn’t measured in dollars.

Any idiot can inherit a fortune.

salmocab · 16-07-2020 1:51pm

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Im sure if he read that, he'd be the smug one. How much are you worth? (rhetorical question)

The sad thing is that’s the only thing he measures himself by.

Kidchameleon · 16-07-2020 1:56pm

KiKi III wrote: »

Intelligence isn’t measured in dollars.

Any idiot can inherit a fortune.

Everyone knows Donald Trump is far from stupid. You may hate him but he's not dumb. Nobody here really thinks he is. Can any idiot become US president?

2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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