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  • 25-12-2017 12:15pm
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    Sligoronan
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    Had a incalf heifer calved yesterday evening had to get vet to and had a tough pull. Calf never got up and would not suck. Had to stomach tube him but the whore died at around 2 in the morning.
    I tagged him this morning for the BVD. Do I register him as still born. When I bring to the knacker do I need any movement papers. Or what is the procedure.
    Thanks


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    whelan2
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    Sligoronan wrote: »
    Had a incalf heifer calved yesterday evening had to get vet to and had a tough pull. Calf never got up and would not suck. Had to stomach tube him but the whore died at around 2 in the morning.
    I tagged him this morning for the BVD. Do I register him as still born. When I bring to the knacker do I need any movement papers. Or what is the procedure.
    Thanks

    You can use the white card that comes in the box. Tick stillborn box. Knackery Will take the white card from you and do all the necessary paperwork


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    Sligoronan
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭Sligoronan


    Do I still do the online registration on agbfood or just use the white card.


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    whelan2
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    Sligoronan wrote: »
    Do I still do the online registration on agbfood or just use the white card.

    You can do both. Just make sure you have the same date on both


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    The Rabbi
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭The Rabbi


    Tag the calf and bring it to the knackery. You can register it online as stillborn,you will get a paper back in the post which you can drop in to the knackery afterwards.


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    tanko
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    Sligoronan wrote: »
    Do I still do the online registration on agbfood or just use the white card.

    I never use the white cards anymore, all can be done on agfood.

    Thats a pity about the calf, what bull was it off?


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    Sligoronan
    Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭Sligoronan


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    WZG Deigo AA.
    In hindsight may be a section would have been better.


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    tanko
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    Lovely looking heifer, would you consider skinning the calf and fostering another one onto her?


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    Sligoronan
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    Yea thought about it. She has heaps of milk so in 2 minds to buy a calf or not.
    Bought her as a 18 month old oct of last year for 680 bullet her In shed and no trouble at all.
    Pity it went wrong.


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    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Calf had his head up and heifer is standing... normally good signs after a calving. Tough luck indeed.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

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    GrasstoMilk
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    tanko wrote: »
    Lovely looking heifer, would you consider skinning the calf and fostering another one onto her?

    You'd hardly have to skin the calf to foster one on? She should take it after a few days regardless


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    L1985
    Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    You'd hardly have to skin the calf to foster one on? She should take it after a few days regardless
    We wouldn't ever skin the calf and we can get the cow to take them usually. Takes a bit of patience and time bjt the key thing is have the calf hungry going in and bawling. Cows don't like to hear the calf bawling but make sure she is restrained thenfirst Couple of days and can't kick. Horrible thing to happen but at least the cows ok!!


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    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭tanko


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    You'd hardly have to skin the calf to foster one on? She should take it after a few days regardless

    You never know with sucklers, i've always found that putting the skin of the dead calf on the new one makes the process a lot easier and faster.


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    Bellview
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    Was their any BB in cow. Diego has myostatin so may be reason for tough pull as double muscle gene


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    Sugarbowl
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    If heifer after calving dead calf is never sucked, will she soak back the milk naturally without ever having to be milked out? Or what’s the best protocol here?


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    greysides
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    Just leave her alone.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    As greysides said leave her be, and she will soak up. Drawing her out would cause her to start producing more milk. Keep her somewhere clean


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