Importing from the UK - definitive guide (Q&A)

BTH wrote: »

I'm aware of that alright and struggling to find details of NOX on the engine I'm looking at but with it being a sub 2 year old petrol this should be minimal. The CO2 testing regime will have a much bigger influence in the cost.

Look up Nox here. Example is for 2018 model Mercedes C200 petrol. Nox of 50, which adds €250 to VRT.
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/search-new-or-used-cars.aspx?vid=865174

BTH wrote: »

It's a 2.5l petrol Mazda 6. It's not there. Theres usually around 20 of them listed for sale on the usual UK sites but it's not listed on that link.

It's there alright. Nox only 12, extra €60 On VRT

deezell wrote: »

Here for rates;
https://www.vrt.ie/faq/changes-vrt-budget-2020/
Here for Nox of any car reg'd in UK;
https://carfueldata.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/search-new-or-used-cars.aspx

Quite punitive, Nox of only 80 adds €800 VRT. SIMI shot themselves in the foot with this one. It's upped the price considerably of a whole raft of new cars from January.

So the advice is if your bringing a car in bring it in before the new year ???

2019 gtd 2.0 is 63mg nox looks to be 345 extra. Does that sound rite ??

BTH wrote: »

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with this though. Yes, price of new cars will go up. Some more than others. But to import a similar almost new car will go up the same amount. People will still buy new cars. What this does do is kill off imports of older cars, 5year plus, giving a shot in the arm to that market here.

People sometimes forget that s significant portion of car owners can never afford new, it was always thus, and it's this group who are now going to find their €8-12,000 is suddenly buying cars older and in worse condition , due to the scarcity of decent used stock at remotely affordable prices. It will be a few years before the newer low Nox cars filter down into the mid life market, Brexit might have ruined imports by then. If you were around in the 70s trying to buy a used car you'd know what it was like to pay top money for little more than end of life junk. Only winners here are Revenue.

Enquire from the garage if can pay by direct debit card transaction on the terminal, rather than transfer. Revolut made for this, no practical transaction limit and it's instant. Some dealers might only accept VISA rather Than Mastercard, but some don't care.

helimachoptor wrote: »

I'm looking at a 2018/2019 5008 Gt auto, but cant find it on the VRT calc.
Is it really a case of just showing up with the car to find out the VRT?

Stat code for 2019 petrol gt
40188999
Stat code for 2019 diesel gt
45287073

VRT ballpark €6.1K for January 2019 petrol, about three hundred less for Diesel,

Next available number on used imports. You cannot reserve a number with used imports.

helimachoptor wrote: »

Dont suppose you have the 2 litre one handy?

Newer blue 2l auto s/s diesel not listed, but it it has 125 or 129 emissions depending on wheels fitted, so the vrt will be calculated at 19% accordingly, at 18% from January plus Nox (29) of €145.

colm_mcm wrote: »

Definitely allow extra for an accurate calculation.

What has your experience been???
If it’s more than 3-4 k extra it’s hardly worth my while bringing it over

adam88 wrote: »

What has your experience been???
If it’s more than 3-4 k extra it’s hardly worth my while bringing it over

Calculate a realistic OMSP and multiply by the VRT rate. I can’t see it being €4K extra, which would mean they’re valuing the car on the calculator at half it’s real value

deezell wrote: »

Which car exactly? Do you have UK reg handy.

Hey, thanks for you help,,,,Rite. Just picked this one as I’m looking at a few,,, PL19 NLV. All it says in the add is 2.0 GTI. On the revenue calculator there 7-8 options for the GTI in the drop down menu. Depending which version the vrt ranges from 4800 to 6400.

Is there any site that will tell you what version it is without having to ring the garage and ask specifically ???

colm_mcm wrote: »

Are you looking at GTI or GTD?

Also, that reg doesn’t work for me. Can you recheck

PL19 NLV

Gtd

deezell wrote: »

Should that read PJ19 NLV
4 door blue 2.0 GTD, April 2019 reg, 8632 miles, 184 ps and emissions of 118gm

Now VRT site often has similar entries for the same car, so selecting the Model as Golf, Golf 2.0 or Golf Tdi may contain an existing reference to this car. It's important you get the exact model name from the V5C, as there can be substantial difference in OMSP, and hence VRT, depending on the stat code your car is described in. I've only been able to find the 118gm emissions under Golf Tdi model, but the only version defined there is the R line with VRT of €6278. Under model Golf 2.0 and Golf 2.0 Tdi there are 5 version definitions of GTD 5 door 184 PS, none of which are 118gm, the nearest is 127gm, which has 19% VRT of €5615, which would reduce to €5319 with emissions of 118gm, VRT rate of 18%. This will drop a further €296 In January, but will attract some Nox (62) charges of €330.

I'm a bit concerned with the vagueness of the application of the version names to these cars. The One you've picked is definitely 118gm emissions, yet all versions of 2.0 GTD on the revenue database are 122 or 127. Importantly, the DVLA data base defines 118 emissions versions of this car as all 150ps, not 183. The autotrader ad correctly gives the emissions of 118gm, but claims the power as 181hp, (183 ps), which seems to contradict the DVLA database
Either way, that particular car should VRT at about €5300, before or after January, but I'd want to see how its version is described on the V5C form, as revenue might stick it under a different one altogether, such as the R line 150ps with VRT of €6278, 900 more than GTD version.
Trust Golf to have the most labyrinthine model and version definitions in the revenue database, it seems full of contradictions.

Thanks very much for a detailed response. Fair play,,,,,, I might pop the garage an email tomorrow and ask them to send me what it says in the v5c. If it is 118 gm and revenue attempt to charge me the higher rate can I appeal it????

There are 4 versions labelled GTD 184BHP 5DR AUTO with new OMSP from 35k to 39.6k, none of which have 118gm emissions, so you could easily pay €6130 VRT if they chose the highest.

I brought a car across last week, booked vrt before I left so have appt on 31st.
They gave me v5c and invoice but no mot.its a sep 16 vehicle and was motd in august.details online ok.
Seems like some people are getting away with prints and others not.
if I need a copy from the DVLA will they post here tor should I be getting on to the dealer, its Carbase in Bristol.
Or just go with a good quality print?

adam88 wrote: »

I’d be none the wiser and wouldn’t have a clue how to argue with them either regarding it.
I’m trying to search if there’s any other version of the GTD but it seems to be a mass produced car with little to no options in the engines etc,,, I don’t know how they can have so many options.

What happens if they choose the highest one??? How do I get them to choose the lowest one,,,,,,

Doing the figures again the savings are getting smaller and smaller, especially when you add in flights, ferry maybe a hotel etc

Tbh saviings will always be marginal on a popular virtually new car, as used prices in the UK will be close to new. If Sterling is recovering, currently costing 16%, that eats into this difference. The real savings were to he made on 3 and 4 year old ex business or fleet, well equipped passats, c and e class. Audis 4 and 6 etc, which are end of manufacturers warranty in the UK. These forecourt at ridiculous prices in main dealers here, or did until we all got the hang of bringing in our own. You're either trying to save a good few grand or trying to get a fully loaded pristine example for a fair price. The dealers import too, but some of the examples I've seen on their forecourts are shocking. High mileage, knocked about and unloved, valeted and touched up to cover up their origins.
No doubt if you present with a car for which there is not an exact statistical code, they will hold on the valuation until they can match the car to an equivalent here. They will compare the equipment spec, e.g., comfortline , Higline or whatever the manufacturer chooses to designate equipment levels. This usually is straight forward. Try esablishing this yourself, find the exact list price of the car here, and use the full new OMSP to determine the reduced OMSP according to depreciation rules. For April 2019 it's 14%, so new list price by 86% depreciation by 18% VRT, that's how its done, and for a car this new and so popular either side of the pond, don't expect huge savings relative to the outlay.
It doesnt always pay to import. My 2015 3l A6 Quattro was un-importable with the ridiculous OMSP and thus VRT being sought, yet these cars depreciate hugely here, so I bought here for a bargain from a main dealers with a 2 year warranty. Happy days
I'll have poke in the VW configurator, see if I can come up with the current new OMSP for that UK car, using it's option list. Try this yourself also.

The vehicle Mot was renewed in August.
So V5c etc is enough then.Dont need Mot cert at all?

deezell wrote: »

Tbh saviings will always be marginal on a popular virtually new car, as used prices in the UK will be close to new. If Sterling is recovering, currently costing 16%, that eats into this difference. The real savings were to he made on 3 and 4 year old ex business or fleet, well equipped passats, c and e class. Audis 4 and 6 etc, which are end of manufacturers warranty in the UK. These forecourt at ridiculous prices in main dealers here, or did until we all got the hang of bringing in our own. You're either trying to save a good few grand or trying to get a fully loaded pristine example for a fair price. The dealers import too, but some of the examples I've seen on their forecourts are shocking. High mileage, knocked about and unloved, valeted and touched up to cover up their origins.
No doubt if you present with a car for which there is not an exact statistical code, they will hold on the valuation until they can match the car to an equivalent here. They will compare the equipment spec, e.g., comfortline , Higline or whatever the manufacturer chooses to designate equipment levels. This usually is straight forward. Try esablishing this yourself, find the exact list price of the car here, and use the full new OMSP to determine the reduced OMSP according to depreciation rules. For April 2019 it's 14%, so new list price by 86% depreciation by 18% VRT, that's how its done, and for a car this new and so popular either side of the pond, don't expect huge savings relative to the outlay.
It doesnt always pay to import. My 2015 3l A6 Quattro was un-importable with the ridiculous OMSP and thus VRT being sought, yet these cars depreciate hugely here, so I bought here for a bargain from a main dealers with a 2 year warranty. Happy days
I'll have poke in the VW configurator, see if I can come up with the current new OMSP for that UK car, using it's option list. Try this yourself also.

Fair play for the advice. This is why I love boards. Top job.
Punched a few figures last nite. I’d be saving a hell of a lot more going 2017. Spec is the same