Ireland Team Talk X: The Long Hard Road to a Semi. MOD WARNING POSTS #1, #1474, #5707

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

"Pearl clutching at a sarcastic post from a journalist doesn't change that."

Please. It was a dig at Kleyn's legitimacy as an Irish player. Disgraceful comment from an accredited journalist.

He deleted it very quickly...

The poster called him a 'Leinster fan boy' three posts in a row all the while pearl clutches about a sarcastic dig on a tweet he later removed.

Rightly or wrongly, many question his legitimacy as an Irish player and by putting in a performance as poor as that he leaves him open to minor digs like that, even if they are in poor taste.

@Foxtrol What you call "in poor taste", I call disgraceful.

Why did he delete it, if not? He knew it was way over the line.

* For the record, I'm a Leinster fan and believe Toner AND Dillane should have been there ahead of Kleyn. But Kleyn's an Irish World Cup player now and such snide digs disgust me.

Schmidt says Sexton is fine. The was to play him for 40 minutes today and for 60 minutes against Samoa.

He wasn't as positive on Carbery though. He jarred his heel in the captains run and hasn't been able to recover.

Foxtrol wrote: »

Klyen was objectively poor and that performance was as far from a 'tight head lock enforcer' as I can think.

Pearl clutching at a sarcastic post from a journalist doesn't change that.

As I have said, he was poor. Also said on here when squad was announced would have gone with Toner.

Residency rules are what they are. An Irish times journalist should be well above attacking one player in relation to residency rules just because he is upset one of his province’s players wasn’t selected, pathetic stuff.

Foxtrol wrote: »

The poster called him a 'Leinster fan boy' three posts in a row all the while pearl clutches about a sarcastic dig on a tweet he later removed.

Rightly or wrongly, many question his legitimacy as an Irish player and by putting in a performance as poor as that he leaves him open to minor digs like that, even if they are in poor taste.

He is a Leinster fan boy and incapable of separating that from his journalism. It’s idiotic to question his legitimacy. If you’re against residency qualified players fine but singling out individual players looks petty and small.

Whether it's a symptom of the heat & humidity, or a general lack of sharpness, I'm not sure - but my biggest impression from the last 2 games is that we've been very bad at supporting the ball carrier, and as a result have put outselves under pressure at the breakdown.

Clean-outs are coming that split-second slower than they should, so our ball is constantly getting slowed, and allowing defences more time to be set up against the next phase.
Even relying on one-out runners we would still be making gains on every carry if the defence isn't set properly. Slow ball means the one-out carrier is likely to get stuffed and the game plan struggles.

If Jordi isn't able to carry on over there, who would be the next in line would it be TOD?

If Joe has to call someone up for Nordi, could an interesting peak into how he views the squad. Does he call Toner up to shore up the lineout and set piece, which would suggest he made a mistake initially.

Does he call up TOD as 7 cover? Does he want a similar style player as replacement for Conan and call up Deegan ?

Personally, I'd bring in Dev, and roll with Henderson on the bench.

Mr Tickle wrote: »

He's the next back row in line. Doesn't help us cover 8 though. Jack O'Donoghue has been played by Schmidt too but that was long before this camp.

With there only being one group match left it means the needs of the squad will change and there is every chance that the replacement wouldn’t be a back row.

Rob Kearney has scored 3 games in a row, that follows a 27 game dry spell, which was right after his last 3 in a row spell!

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

@Foxtrol What you call "in poor taste", I call disgraceful.

Why did he delete it, if not? He knew it was way over the line.

* For the record, I'm a Leinster fan and believe Toner AND Dillane should have been there ahead of Kleyn. But Kleyn's an Irish World Cup player now and such snide digs disgust me.

And your use of disgraceful, I call hyperbolic pearl clutching.

He deleted it because in the heat of the moment people post things they at the time think is funny and then regret when they're called out and they reflect on it.

The post was gone by the time I clicked on it and expected him to have abused his wife for the way some were reacting, especially from a poster who was repeatedly naming calling about the journalist in their own posts.

Kleyn was supposed to be brought as a 'hardman' and he was anything but that today. I'd expect plenty of snide posts if Toner was brought and performed as poorly in the lineout.

Foxtrol wrote: »

And your use of disgraceful, I call hyperbolic pearl clutching.

He deleted it because in the heat of the moment people post things they at the time think is funny and then regret when they're called out and they reflect on it.

The post was gone by the time I clicked on it and expected him to have abused his wife for the way some were reacting, especially from a poster who was repeatedly naming calling about the journalist in their own posts.

Kleyn was supposed to be brought as a 'hardman' and he was anything but that today. I'd expect plenty of snide posts if Toner was brought and performed as poorly in the lineout.

I called him a Leinster fan rather than a journalist which is accurate. It’s pathetic for an Irish Times journalist to be so upset at the exclusion of a Leinster player that he resorts to snide remarks about the player selected ahead of him. If he wants to be against all residency players, that’s fine but singling out individuals is petty and small.

Also as I have posted here before, he frequently appears unaware of what’s happening at other provinces, unaware of how the league they play in operates. It’s poor ‘journalism’ at best.

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

@Foxtrol

"Kleyn was supposed to be brought as a 'hardman'"

Source? ;-)

I thought he was brought as a "dirt-tracker" TH lock?

We'll agree to disagree, I hope :-)

I don't know too many 'dirt-tracker' specialist TH locks that are known for their softness...

Kleyn was extremely poor today and if Jordi is out at this point Schmidt should hold up his hands that he was wrong and bring in Toner. Kleyn has been anonymous in the areas that were supposed to be his strengths, all the evidence points to him being blown off the park if he has to play in a QF.

ClanofLams wrote: »

I called him a Leinster fan rather than a journalist which is accurate. It’s pathetic for an Irish Times journalist to be so upset at the exclusion of a Leinster player that he resorts to snide remarks about the player selected ahead of him. If he wants to be against all residency players, that’s fine but singling out individuals is petty and small.

Also as I have posted here before, he frequently appears unaware of what’s happening at other provinces, unaware of how the league they play in operates. It’s poor ‘journalism’ at best.

If Kleyn had performed well or even ok you'd have a point, but he was singled out as an individual here because of his terrible performance and the residency piece was thrown in on top.

It is like pot vs kettle here. You clearly have an ongoing issue with this journalist and are taking this as an opportunity to take snide shots at him.