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Ryanair discussion ban?

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  • 16-07-2019 10:08am
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    zom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭


    Is there a ban on Ryanair discussions on After Hours?
    Most of boarders are Ryanair customers and they are entitled to discus important issues like Ryanair buying new Boeing 737 MAX (recently renamed to 737 8200)!
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    ohnonotgmail
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    perhaps try the aviation forum


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    kneemos
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    perhaps try the aviation forum

    A general interest story I'd have thought,rather than a specific aviation item.


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    zom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    perhaps try the aviation forum

    Over one hundred million passengers a year and you think it is a hobby?


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    #5
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    zom wrote: »
    Is there a ban on Ryanair discussions on After Hours?

    No, there isn't.


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    Del2005
    Registered Users Posts: 18,915 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    zom wrote: »
    Is there a ban on Ryanair discussions on After Hours?
    Most of boarders are Ryanair customers and they are entitled to discus important issues like Ryanair buying new Boeing 737 MAX (recently renamed to 737 8200)!

    Ryanair have always used 737's so why would their buying the newest version of the plane be an issue.

    It's not like they are going to fly it before it's released to fly by the regulators and they won't be doing using the same process again for certification.


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    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    It got moved to A&A but I think papering over the cracks with rebranding of the type should be made known to the public.


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    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    It got moved to A&A but I think papering over the cracks with rebranding of the type should be made known to the public.

    Are people unable to read the news? If public relies on AH to get relevant information then we have more serious issues than Ryanair rebranding planes.


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    TuringBot47
    Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    It got moved to A&A but I think papering over the cracks with rebranding of the type should be made known to the public.

    They'll just charge you more if you want to fly on a safer aircraft.


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    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,436 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    TuringBot47 wrote: »
    They'll just charge you more if you want to fly on a safer aircraft.

    How is Ryanair's ultra modern fleet unsafe?

    They have a very good safety record.


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    TheValeyard
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    How is Ryanair's ultra modern fleet unsafe?

    They have a very good safety record.

    That type of plane does not

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,436 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    That type of plane does not

    But they're not using it yet and will only do so once given the all clear.

    No different to other airlines but Ryanair always get singled out by haters.

    Do you realise Ryanair are ultra sensitive about safety as they know one slip up will destroy them. They don't mess around with it or take short cuts in anyway.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Big concerns about the plane remain, but the idea that there is some kind of Big Aerospace man telling this this little website to shut up about it

    (( L O L))


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    rabbidpeach
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    kneemos wrote: »
    A general interest story I'd have thought,rather than a specific aviation item.
    The charter states "Do not post here to reach a larger audience" so I'm sure this is why the post was moved.


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    TuringBot47
    Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    murpho999 wrote: »
    But they're not using it yet and will only do so once given the all clear.

    It was given the all clear before Lion air and Ethiopian airlines flew them.

    I'm not a Ryan air hater, although I'm sure they renegotiated the price on the orders.


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    [Deleted User]
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    But they're not using it yet and will only do so once given the all clear.

    No different to other airlines but Ryanair always get singled out by haters.

    Do you realise Ryanair are ultra sensitive about safety as they know one slip up will destroy them. They don't mess around with it or take short cuts in anyway.

    Then why are they removing the "Max" lettering? A rather devious tactic of rebranding.


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    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,436 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Then why are they removing the "Max" lettering? A rather devious tactic of rebranding.

    I'd say it's Boeing doing it.

    Why have a go at Ryanair. Other Airlines such AIG (Iberia, British Airways and Aer Lingus etc) and United Airlines have done it too.

    Guardian Article here

    Why single out Ryanair?

    Plane can only fly when cleared by regulators. Ryanair will not fly an unsafe plane.


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    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Then why are they removing the "Max" lettering? A rather devious tactic of rebranding.

    The same reason as buildings often don't have 13th floor. It's not like the safety issues with the plane won't be resolved and planes thoroughly scrutinised.


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    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,436 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    TuringBot47 wrote: »
    It was given the all clear before Lion air and Ethiopian airlines flew them.

    I'm not a Ryan air hater, although I'm sure they renegotiated the price on the orders.

    The fault which is software related had not been discovered yet but is now identified and been fixed.

    These are not the first ever plane crashes you know.

    Flight safety is a constantly evolving and changing area.

    How are you sure Ryanair renegotiated the price? Did Michael O'Leary call you?

    If they did, how do you know other airlines didn't as well.

    Why is Ryanair being singled out and other airlines doing the exact same thing are not being mentioned?


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    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You wouldn't name your new cruise liner the Titanic.


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    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,282 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    zom wrote: »
    Over one hundred million passengers a year and you think it is a hobby?

    Why would you think that the aviation forum is purely for hobbyists? There's a lot of very serious and technical discussion in that forum as many of the posters there work in the industry. It's not just a bunch of lads who like looking at the pictures in aviation magazines or who park outside the airport to take photos.


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    #22
    TuringBot47
    Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    murpho999 wrote: »
    The fault which is software related had not been discovered yet but is now identified and been fixed.

    Boeing also made some safety features "optional extras".

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/21/doomed-boeing-737-air-max-planes-ethiopia-indonesia-crashes-lacked-two-optional-safety-features-report
    Regulators do not require airlines to buy optional extras, and many low-cost carriers opt not to.

    I wonder are RyanAir going to pay up for those...

    murpho999 wrote: »
    How are you sure Ryanair renegotiated the price? Did Michael O'Leary call you?

    If they did, how do you know other airlines didn't as well.

    Why is Ryanair being singled out and other airlines doing the exact same thing are not being mentioned?

    You've being very defensive there about Ryan Air.
    Of course Irish people are going to be concerned about an airlines choices
    when they're pretty likely to fly with them in the future.


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    #23
    TuringBot47
    Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    kneemos wrote: »
    You wouldn't name your new cruise liner the Titanic.

    I hear Pepsi are rebranding Pepsi Max too.


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    branie2
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    I don't think so


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    #25
    Tow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭Tow


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Then why are they removing the "Max" lettering? A rather devious tactic of rebranding.

    AFAIK the Ryanair version was never the standard "Max". It is special 'max' bums on a seat version of the '737 Max 8', aka 727 Max 200. It is longer, has 200 seats and an extra emergency exit door.

    https://www.boeing.com/commercial/customers/ryanair/boeing-launches-737-max-200-with-100-airplane-order-from-ryanair.page

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



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    TheValeyard
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    kneemos wrote: »
    You wouldn't name your new cruise liner the Titanic.

    Although..


    http://mentalfloss.com/article/561482/titanic-ii-preparing-set-sail-2022-and-you-can-be-board





    He must like to live dangerously.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



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    #27
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,411 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Although..


    http://mentalfloss.com/article/561482/titanic-ii-preparing-set-sail-2022-and-you-can-be-board

    He must like to live dangerously.


    Made in China.


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    Captain_Crash
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    TuringBot47 wrote: »
    Boeing also made some safety features "optional extras".

    I wonder are RyanAir going to pay up for those...


    What Boeing done was make some warnings related to the MCAS system an optional extra. This was possible as they were not considered "safety critical" by the manufacturer. Its prohibited to make a safety critical feature an optional extra, as we know, Boeing found a work around and were stung.


    For your other question... Yes Ryanair did purchase these optional extras ($80k per aircraft at list prices)


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    #29
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,730 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Does the MAX not indicate that the aircraft is chemtrail capable?


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    #30
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    They screwed me for € 40 with a carry on bag last Friday in Budapest. A normal Samsonite bag. I am going to choose other airlines going forward where possible. Sick of them.


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    Tow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭Tow


    Captain_Crash wrote: »
    What Boeing done was make some warnings related to the MCAS system an optional extra.

    MCAS is only the tip of the iceberg. It now appears they have to upgrade the flight control computer, the venerable 286 is too slow the handle the 'fixed software' in realtime.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/06/boeings-software-fix-for-the-737-max-problem-overwhelms-the-planes-computer.html

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



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