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20-03-2019, 22:01   #1
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VRT and Brexit

If I import a car from the UK tomorrow and cannot get a VRT appointment until April could i be subject to the 20% tariff on diesels in the event of a crash out Brexit. I would hope the date of import should be the day it came into Ireland??
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20-03-2019, 22:44   #2
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That is correct. VRT woukdn’t Be the issue however. That would be customs duties and VAT but equally not a problem.
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If I import a car from the UK tomorrow and cannot get a VRT appointment until April could i be subject to the 20% tariff on diesels in the event of a crash out Brexit. I would hope the date of import should be the day it came into Ireland??
Things may or may not go to hell on 30 March.
At whatever date a "NO DEAL" occurs you will then be liable for VAT and customs duties.
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If I import a car from the UK tomorrow and cannot get a VRT appointment until April could i be subject to the 20% tariff on diesels in the event of a crash out Brexit. I would hope the date of import should be the day it came into Ireland??

I'm in a very similar situation to what you're talking about.

I bought a car on 23rd of Feb.
I had my VRT appointment last Friday on 15th of March.

I was told my car needs to be assessed for VRT, and there's a backlog of 3-4 weeks currently.

So i'm worrying that they will not get around to assessing it until after the 29th...and when they come back to me with a VRT figure, and i go to pay it in the office, they try hit me with a VAT and Customs bill for 33% of the Sterling price i paid...on top of my VRT.


Very worried about it - especially unfair as the delay is on revenue's side considering i brought my car for assessment LAST WEEK.
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I'm in a very similar situation to what you're talking about.

I bought a car on 23rd of Feb.
I had my VRT appointment last Friday on 15th of March.

I was told my car needs to be assessed for VRT, and there's a backlog of 3-4 weeks currently.

So i'm worrying that they will not get around to assessing it until after the 29th...and when they come back to me with a VRT figure, and i go to pay it in the office, they try hit me with a VAT and Customs bill for 33% of the Sterling price i paid...on top of my VRT.


Very worried about it - especially unfair as the delay is on revenue's side considering i brought my car for assessment LAST WEEK.
No need to worry as you have already imported it before Brexit day.
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21-03-2019, 21:14   #6
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I hope you are right Marcusm!
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yes , it's the date of import that matters. In any event the date is looking more likely to be May22nd now
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yes , it's the date of import that matters. In any event the date is looking more likely to be May22nd now
I hope that's right too.

1 question though... how do you officially capture a 'date of import' as there's no really way to prove when you drove it across the border.

Do we know for sure they take the date of VRT appointment or something?

Date of sale seems odd because that doesn't prove you brought it across the border the same day.
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I hope that's right too.

1 question though... how do you officially capture a 'date of import' as there's no really way to prove when you drove it across the border.

Do we know for sure they take the date of VRT appointment or something?

Date of sale seems odd because that doesn't prove you brought it across the border the same day.
For cars from NI I think they presume the date of import is the date of purchase on the invoice, and if it isn't then you have to prove that the car was kept somewhere in NI until the date you really did import it.
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For cars from NI I think they presume the date of import is the date of purchase on the invoice, and if it isn't then you have to prove that the car was kept somewhere in NI until the date you really did import it.
Hope that's true so

Bizarre to me that Revenue can give you an estimated quote for an exact model car but then (in my case) say "oh we actually use a different system which that car is not on". They should really use the same system and remove the additional bottleneck.
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Hope that's true so

Bizarre to me that Revenue can give you an estimated quote for an exact model car but then (in my case) say "oh we actually use a different system which that car is not on". They should really use the same system and remove the additional bottleneck.
You had the VRT appointment so they examined the car and can confirm that you imported it into the state. There’s hardly any stronger evidence.
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You had the VRT appointment so they examined the car and can confirm that you imported it into the state. There’s hardly any stronger evidence.

100% agree but still dubious and won't believe I'm in the clear till and it's paid. Have zero faith in the system
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For cars from NI I think they presume the date of import is the date of purchase on the invoice, and if it isn't then you have to prove that the car was kept somewhere in NI until the date you really did import it.
nowadays they look at when the UK tax on it ran out and assume that was the date of import apparently.
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nowadays they look at when the UK tax on it ran out and assume that was the date of import apparently.
That can't be the case as a lot of garages have cars with tax that expired months ago.
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It's already been said, the date of import is taken as the day of sale unless you have some acceptable documentation to prove otherwise like an invoice for storage fees, ferry tickets, etc.
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