Car ideas

Specialun · 02-01-2019 5:18pm #1

Currently driving a 2012 Skoda Octavia VRS. Looking to change. At the moment I dont really do the miles to justify a diesel as I do around 8-12k Max a year. Obviously that could change.

+ Looking at car with power. 200+
+ Needs to be comfy and Fun
+ 181 or 191
+ Not too much of a Juice drinks as you never know if I might change jobs
+ 40k Budget

Any suggestions?

So far I have considered:

+ VRS 230- 41K new and IMO difficult to justify for just 230 BHP and the drive
+ I40 N- Savage fun but the MPG was shocking. You would need a topaz lorry behind you

bazz26 · 02-01-2019 5:59pm

Golf GTi would be top of my list with that criteria. The only drawback would be that it won't have the boot capacity that your used too in the Octavia but you may be already aware of that since you considered the Hyundai i30n.

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2084804&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D93%26o%5B%5D%3D812%26f%3D1%26nn%3D12%26yn%3D2018%26yx%3D2019%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2180907&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D93%26o%5B%5D%3D812%26f%3D1%26nn%3D12%26yn%3D2018%26yx%3D2019%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2095752&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D93%26o%5B%5D%3D812%26f%3D1%26nn%3D12%26yn%3D2018%26yx%3D2019%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Specialun · 02-01-2019 7:08pm

hey bazz

yeah you opened a can of worms there. i have no issue with lack of boot space, however the other half has as we got 2 labs and kids is a possibility. this lack of boot space is currently in negogiation as he purchased a new skoda kodiaq.

those golfs are nice, howver the seat interior reminded me of my grannys old dish cloths

colm_mcm · 02-01-2019 9:27pm

Specialun wrote: »

those golfs are nice, howver the seat interior reminded me of my grannys old dish cloths

That’s a bit of heritage. The original Golf GTI has tartan seats (and a golf ball gearknob, both golf references)

Mk1 Golf

Mk7 Golf

Eric Cartman · 02-01-2019 9:39pm

182 bmw 330e :
https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/3-series/used-2018-182-bmw-3-series-330e-sport-dublin-fpa-201811152446047

if yoll go second half of 2017 you can get a 530e :
https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/5-series/used-2017-172-bmw-5-series-530e-se-ip-cork-fpa-201805296952825

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/volkswagen/arteon/used-2018-182-volkswagen-arteon-r-lin-louth-fpa-201807128390495

02-01-2019 10:36pm

Specialun wrote: »

hey bazz

yeah you opened a can of worms there. i have no issue with lack of boot space, however the other half has as we got 2 labs and kids is a possibility. this lack of boot space is currently in negogiation as he purchased a new skoda kodiaq.

those golfs are nice, howver the seat interior reminded me of my grannys old dish cloths

I was going to say gti too (im biased:D) but you can get a 310bhp golf R estate.
I think you know but anything 200bhp + is going to be relativity hard on juice!
As for the dishcloth comment ........your going the right way for a slapped bottom !

AMKC · 02-01-2019 11:50pm

Renault Megane GTi 250.

Peugeot 308 GTI.

Skoda Kodiaq VRs. Could be over budget with that last suggestion but you would have your boot space and a big fun car too.

bodonnell · 03-01-2019 12:07am

Not as powerful but Civic H/B 1.5T has 180bhp & has fairly decent boot space, our lab is fairly comfortable in there.

bazz26 · 03-01-2019 12:56am

AMKC wrote: »

Renault Megane GTi 250.

Peugeot 308 GTI.

Skoda Kodiaq VRs. Could ge over budget with that last suggestion but you would have your boot space and a big fun car too.

By about 20k?

AMKC · 03-01-2019 1:02am

bazz26 wrote: »

By about 20k?

That was meant to be a be there not ge lol.

colm_mcm · 03-01-2019 9:30pm

Even aside from the price, I can’t see anyone looking for a fun car buying a Kodiaq unless they need 7 seats and believe the RS badging will stop it being a lumbering crossover.

Specialun · 05-01-2019 6:50pm

close enough to buying a new vrs. my own has been very good for years so i can trust the car/brand. not a powerfull as some butno exactly a tank either.

i few manual box vrs still around. i think that manual cars mean you engage more with the car.

im just afraid that the manual wont be as attractive from a re-sale point of view as a dsg

Mad_maxx · 05-01-2019 8:27pm

Alfa romeo giulia

colm_mcm · 05-01-2019 8:45pm

OP is worried about resale value

AMKC · 05-01-2019 11:03pm

Specialun wrote: »

close enough to buying a new vrs. my own has been very good for years so i can trust the car/brand. not a powerfull as some butno exactly a tank either.

i few manual box vrs still around. i think that manual cars mean you engage more with the car.

im just afraid that the manual wont be as attractive from a re-sale point of view as a dsg

If it is what you want then buy it. There will still be people around in a few years that want a proper drivers car with a manual gearbox and not some automated one.

Mad_maxx · 05-01-2019 11:36pm

AMKC wrote: »

If it is what you want then buy it. There will still be people around in a few years that want a proper drivers car with a manual gearbox and not some automated one.

A proper drivers car is an automatic

Philb76 · 06-01-2019 2:44am

Golf gti gets my vote as well but if boot space is an issue how about a bit older Audi rs4 avant or rs6 avant

MarkN · 06-01-2019 3:16am

Just bear in mind a Golf boot will not take any sort of modern buggy system.

I had to put one of the rear seats slightly forward to fit an Uppa Baby into an R.

Shefwedfan · 06-01-2019 10:43am

MarkN wrote: »

Just bear in mind a Golf boot will not take any sort of modern buggy system.

I had to put one of the rear seats slightly forward to fit an Uppa Baby into an R.

I have Out n About Double and Bugaboo single and I fit both into eGolf no problem, not together. I have to take the boot cover all right for the double but no issues

Shefwedfan · 06-01-2019 10:44am

What about the Golf GTE. Would suit your requirements as a hybrid to reduce fuel cost. Over the 200Bhp. You could pick up brand new around 40k.

ShadowHearth · 06-01-2019 11:16am

How about Seat leon cupra 300 in estate form?

Will easier on juice then golf R as its FWD and estate will give plenty of space.
Ironically Seats don't hold their value, but for some reason all second hand Cupras on Donedeal habe very strong price tags.

Tabby McTat · 06-01-2019 11:47am

MarkN wrote: »

Just bear in mind a Golf boot will not take any sort of modern buggy system.

I had to put one of the rear seats slightly forward to fit an Uppa Baby into an R.

Have a 182 golf and can fit the Uppababy in the boot.

colm_mcm · 06-01-2019 12:24pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What about the Golf GTE. Would suit your requirements as a hybrid to reduce fuel cost. Over the 200Bhp. You could pick up brand new around 40k.

Aren’t they a lot heavier than a normal Golf and not that sporty? Haven’t driven one. Interesting suggestion nonetheless.

Shefwedfan · 06-01-2019 12:54pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Aren’t they a lot heavier than a normal Golf and not that sporty? Haven’t driven one. Interesting suggestion nonetheless.

With the battery I would guess they are heavier, how much I dont know

A few people have them on the Electric and Hybrid forum so might be better to ask on it

If charged and taking off using electric it will be faster than the straight petrol, doesn't matter really about weigth

I think it will do about 40km on electric before it kicks back into hybrid mode so some nice savings

Also the system will monitor your jouney and switch hybrid modes to suit the journey which sounds very cool :P

MarkN · 06-01-2019 1:05pm

The eGolf drives very much the same as a normal Golf. There’s no obvious weight issues etc

Maybe I had the buggy at a weird angle but it wouldn’t fit.

Shefwedfan · 06-01-2019 1:20pm

MarkN wrote: »

The eGolf drives very much the same as a normal Golf. There’s no obvious weight issues etc

Maybe I had the buggy at a weird angle but it wouldn’t fit.

I love the eGolf, I find it better drive and a lot nipper in town compared to my previous 2ltr Tdi. It struggles once over 100km/h

The eGolf boot is a little bit smaller to a normal golf I think, but I have had no issues with putting buggies etc into it....

I would have mentioned the eGolf but it will not meet the 200Bhp requirement.

If buyer wanted they should be able to reserve the new VW ID Neo in the next few months for delivery late 2019/Q1 2020.

It will be 200Bhp+ and have over 500km range. Perfect for the requirement. Same size as Golf but interior is similar to Passat and bigger boot. Rear wheel drive as well.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Tqw9LX3QE

JoeA3 · 06-01-2019 3:35pm

MarkN wrote: »

The eGolf drives very much the same as a normal Golf. There’s no obvious weight issues etc

Maybe I had the buggy at a weird angle but it wouldn’t fit.

The boot is smaller in the R than the rest of the Golf range. The boot floor is height adjustable on the rest whereas in the R the 4WD system robs that lower floor space.

Heres Johnny · 06-01-2019 4:30pm

High powered BMW 2 series maybe? Isn't there an m235i available?

Any journalists reviewing said the m2 is the new m3, kind of raw and chuckable like the old m3s were. The m3 and m4 have grown up a bit and are more refined.

Not advocating an m2 for you, but maybe a higher powered engine in the normal range of them.

Failing that and if you think the 2 series is a bit small then a 330i or 330e would be good.

I just can't justify recommending the meganes and focus high powered models, a 280-300bhp engine in a family hatch is just never going to resell.

MarkN · 06-01-2019 6:11pm

JoeA3 wrote: »

The boot is smaller in the R than the rest of the Golf range. The boot floor is height adjustable on the rest whereas in the R the 4WD system robs that lower floor space.

You just made me feel like I’m actually not losing it. Thanks Joe!!

MarkN · 06-01-2019 6:14pm

Heres Johnny wrote: »

High powered BMW 2 series maybe? Isn't there an m235i available?

Any journalists reviewing said the m2 is the new m3, kind of raw and chuckable like the old m3s were. The m3 and m4 have grown up a bit and are more refined.

Not advocating an m2 for you, but maybe a higher powered engine in the normal range of them.

Failing that and if you think the 2 series is a bit small then a 330i or 330e would be good.

I just can't justify recommending the meganes and focus high powered models, a 280-300bhp engine in a family hatch is just never going to resell.

M2 is a fantastic car to drive, many probably can’t get past the size of it but they’re class. Still strong money for them used, I don’t think 40k will swing it just yet.

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