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New dropper post.

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  • 26-08-2018 11:10am
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭


    Thinking of swapping the stock post that came with the bike. Is it worth spending the money on a RS reverb or are the cheaper brands like the Brand x ascend just as good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    jvan wrote: »
    Thinking of swapping the stock post that came with the bike. Is it worth spending the money on a RS reverb or are the cheaper brands like the Brand x ascend just as good.

    If you're looking to fit it and forget it the the pneumatic control and the internal cable routing on the reverb is king.

    If u are planning to move it between bikes then u are much better off with a cable operated one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭emeraldmtb


    I’ve just got the OneUp Components dropper and it’s so much better than other posts i’ve used. and it’s just over €200 with their lever . The cable clamps at the lever end so it’s super easy to fit or move between bikes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    ive had to fix so many reverbs for people, personally think they are just a pain in the ass. My setup is currently a bx ascend with a wolftooth remote and it works a dream :) but if i was in the market for one right now, it would be the oneup components post


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭prunudo


    ive had to fix so many reverbs for people, personally think they are just a pain in the ass. My setup is currently a bx ascend with a wolftooth remote and it works a dream :) but if i was in the market for one right now, it would be the oneup components post

    What sort of problems have they been giving?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    I have a Magura Vyron wireless dropper post on one of my hard tails as I didn't want to mess with aesthetics having more cables strapped to the frame and internal routing wasn't an option as Indricotherium has suggested above. I got it on eBay new but unused for much less than retail price which is otherwise quite expensive.

    The Vyron has a slight delay of about 1 second before the dropper post responds to button presses, and that's the only drawback between it and the likes of the reverb.

    My OH has a specialised command post dropper on her bike, which is also internally routed and is cable operated I think. She has not had any complaints from it, but it does extend like a catapult so be warned if you're standing low when you press the lever ...

    All comes down to installation vs setup vs continued operation and maintenance. Internal routing can be a pain but is clean and keeps cables out of harms way. Cable operated is cheapest (by and large) but more liable to interference from mud ingress, likely via exposed cable when pressing the lever, not to mention cable stretch over time. Hydraulic again can be a bit more effort to set up but unlike cable operation is a closed system so likely to stay running for longer. Wireless posts are easiest to install and maintain but you have a slight delay when activating .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,368 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Fox transfer would be the best one I've used so far. I've also had a reverb which was fine also but got a little slow to respond at times. Haven't tried the brand x ones but they're cheap enough. I'm not sure I'd be spending €200 on a one up dropper when I could get a second hand transfer for not much more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ive had to fix so many reverbs for people, personally think they are just a pain in the ass. My setup is currently a bx ascend with a wolftooth remote and it works a dream but if i was in the market for one right now, it would be the oneup components post

    jvan wrote:
    What sort of problems have they been giving?


    Mine developed a problem months ago, got stuck, scratch marks on the post. Naturally ignored it for months, eventually decided I better do something about it, but the damage was done. Sent it to tk tuning in the UK, internal corrosion, kink in hose, repaired it as best they could but said it will fail soon. Have it back in the bike a couple of weeks but works fairly well, for now


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭emeraldmtb


    I have three mates that all have bikes which came with Reverbs, all developed issues, all have been swapped for something new.

    A couple of them use the Yup dropper and are happy with them. Personally, I don't like the odd lever they use but that's personal opinion.

    I think cable operated is the simplest, less to go wrong. Cables stretch over time, but that's no different than your gear cable. Care and maintenance will obviously affect any dropper, so make sure you keep it clean before every ride.

    Cable swapping on the OneUp is by far the easiest I've seen. But being internal this will depend somewhat on how easy it is to route on your particular bike. On my Santa Cruz is a doddle. Also, their lever, with its huge bearing, is super smooth.
    The KS Lev I had was more difficult to change a cable on, and the Southpaw lever is very dated now and not really keeping up with OneUp or Wolftooth.

    And personally, while I'm more than happy to save money by buying second hand, when it comes to components that rely so heavily on being serviced and cared for correctly like a dropper post, I'd choose new over used every time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭comanche_cor


    emeraldmtb wrote: »
    I’ve just got the OneUp Components dropper and it’s so much better than other posts i’ve used. and it’s just over €200 with their lever . The cable clamps at the lever end so it’s super easy to fit or move between bikes.

    Where did find the OneUp with lever for 200e?

    Looking for a dropper myself atm as well, was waiting for the brand-x to come back in stock on CRC but no sign of them coming back in!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I have a KS Dropzone on my old bike that I bought second hand 4 years ago. Apart from a bit of grease it never got any kind of service and is still going strong.

    I have a reverb on my enduro bike that I got just over 3 years ago. Technically it's a bit quicker and smoother, but it has also needed to be serviced 4 times at 90 quid a pop. Personally, so long as it goes up and down I'd be inclined to just go for the cheapest one. I know people with Brand X posts and they're perfectly happy with them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,124 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Cheers for the advice guys, l might hold off for the moment. Was thinking the reverb would work better than the cable versions but by the sounds of it, it's not without its issues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭nak


    The newer Reverb is much better than the previous versions; had one for 6 months without issue. Selling it on as purchased a new bike.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭xxyyzz


    nak wrote: »
    The newer Reverb is much better than the previous versions; had one for 6 months without issue. Selling it on as purchased a new bike.

    yeah I had mine 18 months and it's still running fine. There were issues with earlier models and SRAM replaced any that were sent back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭QueenMTBee


    I have a KS Dropzone on my old bike that I bought second hand 4 years ago. Apart from a bit of grease it never got any kind of service and is still going strong.

    I had a KS on my last bike and I loved it. Actually was quite annoyed when I got my new bike and realised that I far preferred my KS but I'd sold it with the old bike.


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭emeraldmtb


    I did like my KS Lev, but it needs a service now it started to stiffen up. The KS lever is nowhere near as good as some of these newer ones though, its a bit short and prone to stiffening up because there are no bearings in the lever itself


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Just installed a one-up dropper for a customer. Lovely piece of kit, comes with a lovely lever as well, very similar to the wolfthooth bearing lever


  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭'68 Fastback


    No mention of the Thomson dropper. Do they suck or is it just the price that puts people off?

    I don't have a dropper yet but it's top of my upgrade list.


  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭comanche_cor


    Just installed a one-up dropper for a customer. Lovely piece of kit, comes with a lovely lever as well, very similar to the wolfthooth bearing lever

    Glad to hear this as I have just ordered one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    apologies for dragging up an old thread, but any new recommendations for a dropper, mines fcuked? cant afford to spend too much. thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭xxyyzz


    I have a crank brothers hi line dropper 160mm. It's cable operated and I'm having an issue where the lever doesn't return fully after I press it causing the saddle to gradually creep back up. I need to flick the lever all the way back with my thumb to lock out the saddle. I believe it's because the cable is very sensitive to any slight kinks in the frame routing. I've tried everything but I think I'm gonna have to live with it. Given the choice again I'd have gone back to a reverb which never gave me any issues.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭Biopace


    Brand X Ascend, cheap, well made, cheap, reliable, cheap, easy to install, cheap, did I say cheap?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Biopace wrote:
    Brand X Ascend, cheap, well made, cheap, reliable, cheap, easy to install, cheap, did I say cheap?


    They sound a little expensive to me to be honest


  • Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    I think all the previous issues with the RockShox Reverb were addressed in the later B1 version.

    I bought one (1x Reverb Stealth) and installed it myself a couple of weeks ago: about €285. Love it. If I can install it, anyone can (their YouTube videos are great: 1, 2) :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    Brand X all the way - fit and forget

    I've had 3 or 4 reverbs over the years, at some stage they all needed a bleed or service - there's €100 straight away

    What does a dropper do? - goes up and down ;) buy the simple one, if it breaks buy a new one (have had an ascend for 2 yrs never even changed the cable..)

    If you are on a budget you could try these RFR seatposts, as far as I know made by Cube and sold through some of the German online sellers eg bike discount, bike24. Can't be much wrong with them I'd imagine
    I've had a Tranzx one before which was fine

    https://www.bike-discount.de/en/shop/adjustable-in-height-369?l=24&o=preis


  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Peter T


    Would nearly be worth a punt on one of those RFR seatposts


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    Peter T wrote: »
    Would nearly be worth a punt on one of those RFR seatposts

    I think so, at that price

    Looking at the (few) reviews it seems the only 'issue' is that they can be quite hard to 'drop' - the TranzX I had was like that - no problem for me (75kg) but I had it on my son's bike and he had some difficulty as he's only 13/light

    So bear that in mind


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    boomdocker wrote: »
    If you are on a budget you could try these RFR seatposts, as far as I know made by Cube and sold through some of the German online sellers eg bike discount, bike24. Can't be much wrong with them I'd imagine
    You'd be right - RFR is Ready For Race, a sub-brand of Cube's :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭QueenMTBee


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    apologies for dragging up an old thread, but any new recommendations for a dropper, mines fcuked? cant afford to spend too much. thank you

    What size drop & post do you need?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    QueenMTBee wrote:
    What size drop & post do you need?


    Fair question, unsure to be honest, my bikes an 18 inch, unsure what I really need, I'll look into it, and get back to you. Thanks a lot folks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Peter T


    boomdocker wrote: »
    I think so, at that price

    Looking at the (few) reviews it seems the only 'issue' is that they can be quite hard to 'drop' - the TranzX I had was like that - no problem for me (75kg) but I had it on my son's bike and he had some difficulty as he's only 13/light

    So bear that in mind

    No worries there I've plenty to push it down :D


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