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History Queen · 22-05-2020 2:18pm

Treppen wrote: »

This was when teachers were advised not to contact students. It was possibly inferring that the teacher would be failing the student...or maybe the student might get more points with the calculated ordinary level grade. Parent is outraged... Teacher should have just failed the student and said nothing

Oh no, the teacher contacted the student since we were told not to? What were they thinking?
This whole situation is such a mess

rainbowtrout · 22-05-2020 2:22pm

km79 wrote: »

I’m calling shenanigans on that “email”.
For a start CBAs are not state exams . J Certs are not having state exams this year .
I can’t listen to a minute more of this . Gift Grub is very accurate !

Well Treppen said 'also up the CBA grades', so taking it at face value then the school is asking them to up LC and JC grades.

But again taking it at face value if the teacher sent them an email advising them to drop level then the teacher is in the wrong, that clearly implies they are being told they would not pass HL.

But the whole notion of the parent finding out the calculated grade, how is that possible?

I wonder was the teacher's identity verified by Joe's researchers?

Treppen · 22-05-2020 2:22pm

History Queen wrote: »

Oh no, the teacher contacted the student since we were told not to? What were they thinking?
This whole situation is such a mess

Probably trying to do the student a favour.

First rule of teaching... No favours.

My response to students "I have no favourites I hate ye all equally".

rainbowtrout · 22-05-2020 2:28pm

History Queen wrote: »

Oh no, the teacher contacted the student since we were told not to? What were they thinking?
This whole situation is such a mess

There was always going to be incidents like this. I expect more to be honest.

what an absolute mess

Treppen · 22-05-2020 2:31pm

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Well Treppen said 'also up the CBA grades', so taking it at face value then the school is asking them to up LC and JC grades.

But again taking it at face value if the teacher sent them an email advising them to drop level then the teacher is in the wrong, that clearly implies they are being told they would not pass HL.

But the whole notion of the parent finding out the calculated grade, how is that possible?

I wonder was the teacher's identity verified by Joe's researchers?

Regards the teacher thinking the school possibly released the grade to a parent:

Not necessarily in this case but a tactic teachers need to be aware of when disclosing any info thinking it's a casual conversation.

Sometimes on rare occasions parents inflate any bit of info to strongarm an outcome. Parent could have been bluffing and started scattergunning everyone with phonecalls until they got information ... Then went onto someone else and said " Mr X told me this... Or Principal Y told me this".
It's a very clever tactic I've seen once or twice, it helps to escalate a gripe very quickly and implicate other people so you get your way.

Like ringing different customer service agents multiple times until you get a bit of info to use for next call. I do this a lot :pac:

History Queen · 22-05-2020 2:32pm

I appreciate that the teacher in question was trying to help their student, but they are nowin a God-awful situation that is partially of their own making. I'm here still wading through the document on a "break" from correcting house exams. I won't be sad to see the back of this academic year.

Treppen · 22-05-2020 2:35pm

rainbowtrout wrote: »

There was always going to be incidents like this. I expect more to be honest.

what an absolute mess

Backs up your point on indemnity rainbowtrout ... Now we can probably find out who that parent was... Who her child was... Who the maths teacher was.
It's in the public domain now and that teacher is ****** for trying to do the kid a favour.

The teacher who's supposedly written the whistleblowing email should just contact his Union asap. This is something they could easily lend their weight to.
Which is why the letter/email seems a bit rum

rainbowtrout · 22-05-2020 2:36pm

Treppen wrote: »

Regards the teacher thinking the school possibly released the grade to a parent:

Not necessarily in this case but a tactic teachers need to be aware of when disclosing any info thinking it's a casual conversation.

Sometimes on rare occasions parents inflate any bit of info to strongarm an outcome. Parent could have been bluffing and started scattergunning everyone with phonecalls until they got information ... Then went onto someone else and said " Mr X told me this... Or Principal Y told me this".
It's a very clever tactic I've seen once or twice, it helps to escalate a gripe very quickly and implicate other people so you get your way.

Like ringing different customer service agents multiple times until you get a bit of info to use for next call. I do this a lot :pac:

Well one way or another, if that was their tactic, the school should have said 'sorry we can't release the grade, grades haven't been calculated yet (which they shouldn't be), and then checked with the teacher in question as to what happened.

6am7f9zxrsjvnb · 22-05-2020 2:44pm

LuasSimon wrote: »

Teachers really are a law to themselves, they are going to place the future of ever leaving cert in 2020 at jeopardy with their non co-operation . They often refer to the welfare of their students, a load of b7llocks to cover up their own laziness and air of self importance.

When people clap in the evenings for front line workers like nurses we most certainly arent clapping for the lazy teachers !! In fact when public sector pay is discussed those lazy teachers should be given a pay cut and give it to the nurses who arent off half the year on holidays .

Ignorance is bliss.

Stewie Griffin · 22-05-2020 2:44pm

Ah folks, do we have to take a swing at everyone that wanders in here and says something? It's not as if their minds will be changed byour anything we say. Don't bother, like!

spurious · 22-05-2020 2:45pm

Closing this AGAIN until the trolls feck off and there are clear guidelines that we can discuss. Anything else is speculation and not really worthwhile.
Thank you to those reporting posts.

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