The 'what have some travellers somewhere done this time? thread

Suprised John connors hasnt come out publicly calling everyone a racist for everyones uproar on this lol

saintsaltynuts wrote: »

Just when you thought you seen it all with this crew a video like this comes along.Confirms even more they're the scum of the Earth and need to be wiped from the face of the planet.

they don't need to be wiped from the face of the earth and they won't be. you will need to get over that fact and keep the old fantasies to yourself.
the video only proves that the father of the child is a scumbag, not the traveling community as a whole.

tayto lover wrote: »

I wonder what the views of Tubridy, Miriam O’Callaghan, Dr. Ciara Kelly and the rest of the media who stand up for Travellers and put down anyone with with an opposing view actually think of this video?
My guess is that they’d turn a blind eye and totally ignore it’s existence as it wouldn’t suit their agenda.
I’d love to see a family like this moving in next door to each of them.

perhapse you could get in contact with them and ask them, and let us know their response? no point in constantly asking what particular individuals think about something when they aren't going to come on here and answer.

El_Bee wrote: »

Travelers should have been forcibly settled in the period between the founding of the state and our joining of the EEC.

that would not have been possible. there are no methods which could have achieved this.
travelers themselves going off the road which is actually happening slowly but surely is the best and only option.

MattressRick wrote: »

Has that mouth from pavee point come out to condemn the video?
He surfaces when travellers feel even slightly offended but doubtful he'll want to talk about this.

he surfaces when there are genuine issues effecting the community which is what the organization he represents deals with. he has no specific need to comment on the video. in fact if he did, i'd reccan people would be complaining that he didn't say whatever specific thing they would want him to say. so given he probably couldn't win either way, then staying out of it is probably the best option.

That isn’t a video isn’t a parent and child, it’s a man bullying and training an animal. Heartbreaking stuff.

Bob Harris wrote: »

What I found most offensive was him being told to throw the cutlery on the floor
though you have to admire the traveller 'I don't give a fuck attitude'.

Theres not one thing I admire about them. Pity maybe. Poor little fella being brought up to think drinking fighting and stealing are normal ways of life. Imagine his wife later in life if hes told hes the 'boss' and the 'hulk' now.

The lack of manners portrayed in the video made me sick 'nevermind that throw that on the floor.. Get up on the table', what the hell is wrong with these people!?

I remember my grandmother had an old traveller woman call to the house years and years ago begging for some clothes for the children (i think they are known for robbing clothes banks etc)

My granny went upstairs to find clothes like christening outfits etc babygrows and gave them to the woman.

When the woman left with the clothes my granny realised the woman took her purse with her!

Unbelievable

Charles Ingles wrote: »

One gob****e gives his child Guinness and it's John Connors fault
What about smack babies born addicted the heroin to settled people every day in Ireland.do they represent all us normal people in the non traveler community?

I've never seen anyone celebrate it on youtube/ facebook

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

The father has nearly 19,000 followers on Facebook. There are comments from other travellers all along the lines of “god bless him, he looks like you, lovely boy, etc”

He also claims that he is the successor to the King of the Travellers title and he does receive comments from other travellers endorsing this.

Pavee point should be involved as they are there to protect the rights of travellers. That child is a traveller and needs protecting.

Seriously, EOTR, think about pavee point and what they should be doing for this kid.

i'm not sure we can say for definite that pavee point are or aren't involved. it's probably not something they would make public either way.
it does go without saying that there are already processes in place to deal with issues such as that contained within the video and anyone can raise a concern with the relevant authorities who have an obligation to investigate.

Sounds like child abuse (and it more than likely is) to me

Bob Harris wrote: »

What I found most offensive was him being told to throw the cutlery on the floor
though you have to admire the traveller 'I don't give a fuck attitude'.

I wouldn't admire it too much. Seems to lead to high rates of suicide, drug abuses and depression. Ya might bate any man alive, but ya can't bate your own emotional pain. Takes real strength to face that head on

end of the road wrote: »

i'm not sure we can say for definite that pavee point are or aren't involved. it's probably not something they would make public either way.
it does go without saying that there are already processes in place to deal with issues such as that contained within the video and anyone can raise a concern with the relevant authorities who have an obligation to investigate.

They’d just say it’s someone else’s fault. It’s what they always say. They’re the victims. Pavee Point are only their apologists. Useless organization funded by our taxes.

Zuzana11 wrote: »

Do 4 year olds go to school with a hangover

Not all 4 year olds go to any school with no hangover.

end of the road wrote: »

it's not what they always say. from anyof their press releases and other corispondants with the media, the only time they say something is someone else's fault is when it actually is, for example when they talk about things such as discrimination against travelers.
They never talk about the crimes they commit against the settled comm7nity and the elderly in particular.


well yes, unfortunately travelers still remain to be the victims of discrimination and bigotry.

Travellers cause themselves to be discriminated against by their uncivilized actions and crime.

how so? they are a group that raise traveler specific issues and lobby to insure traveler's rights are upheld. not sure how that is being an apologist?

Travellers rights are upheld better than settled people’s rights. Pavee Point make sure of that alright. They totally refuse to comment on Travellers beating their wives, failing to send their kids to school, calling out videos, fighting among themselves and disrupting funerals and indeed entire towns.

in what way are they useless? they seem to be standing up for traveler's rights and lobbying quite well. so from what i can see at least they are far from useless given they do exactly what they were set up to do.

They are letting down Travellers kids by neglecting to comment on lack of school attendance, wife beating and general bad manners by Travellers. They make their criminal ways seem like the norm. It’s not.

tayto lover wrote: »

They never talk about the crimes they commit against the settled comm7nity and the elderly in particular.

it's not in their remit to be fair. also there really isn't anything more they can publically bring to the table on that issue.

tayto lover wrote: »

Travellers cause themselves to be discriminated against by their uncivilized actions and crime.

those facing discrimination are never responsible for that discrimination. those who carry out the discrimination are the only ones responsible for it happening. whatever acts that are being committed by a group are separate to the discrimination that group may face.

tayto lover wrote: »

Travellers rights are upheld better than settled people’s rights. Pavee Point make sure of that alright.

pavee point insure traveler's rights are upheld yes, that is their remit. i wouldn't expect them to do anything less. but travelers do not have more rights then the rest of us.

tayto lover wrote: »

They totally refuse to comment on Travellers beating their wives, failing to send their kids to school, calling out videos, fighting among themselves and disrupting funerals and indeed entire towns.

if they were to publically comment on issues such as the above, it's quite likely that they wouldn't win because people would still complain that they didn't make their point in a certain way or didn't say certain things that they wanted to hear. so it's better if pavee point simply stick to lobbying rather then commenting on actions. there are enough people to go around to comment on these issues anyway.

tayto lover wrote: »

They are letting down Travellers kids by neglecting to comment on lack of school attendance, wife beating and general bad manners by Travellers. They make their criminal ways seem like the norm. It’s not.

not publically commenting on these issues is not letting traveler's kids down, given that there are processes and laws in place to deal with lack of school attendence as well as all of the other issues. anyone can inform the authorities if they believe a breach of the law is or has taken place, it's not pavee point's fault that people won't use the processes available if they are genuinely concerned about these issues happening within the traveling community.

end of the road wrote: »

it's not in their remit to be fair. also there really isn't anything more they can publically bring to the table on that issue.



those facing discrimination are never responsible for that discrimination. those who carry out the discrimination are the only ones responsible for it happening. whatever acts that are being committed by a group are separate to the discrimination that group may face.



pavee point insure traveler's rights are upheld yes, that is their remit. i wouldn't expect them to do anything less. but travelers do not have more rights then the rest of us.



if they were to publically comment on issues such as the above, it's quite likely that they wouldn't win because people would still complain that they didn't make their point in a certain way or didn't say certain things that they wanted to hear. so it's better if pavee point simply stick to lobbying rather then commenting on actions. there are enough people to go around to comment on these issues anyway.



not publically commenting on these issues is not letting traveler's kids down, given that there are processes and laws in place to deal with lack of school attendence as well as all of the other issues. anyone can inform the authorities if they believe a breach of the law is or has taken place, it's not pavee point's fault that people won't use the processes available if they are genuinely concerned about these issues happening within the traveling community.

As I said, always the victims.

Jerichoholic wrote: »

What annoyed me more was him telling the kid to throw the cutlery on the floor. It's the exact opposite of bringing up children.

A pig with no manners.

They don’t comply with the norms of society.
They’re a law unto themselves.
Do what we want, take what we want.
Anyone who disagrees with our way of life is discriminating against us.
Yada yada yada.

MrFresh wrote: »

That video is indicative of the reasons I have sympathy for travellers. They're stuck in this cycle. What chance has that child got at an acceptable life? When do you go from pitying him to hating him?

It’s not about hating him at all.
It’s about hating that way of life where children are subjected to behavior like this and think it’s the way to behave. When he grows up he’ll be beating his wife and “calling out” other Travellers to fight because it’s all he will know.