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Corona virus in waterford

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Santan


    Was in a shop today and a woman was standing right next to me, putting her stuff on the counter as I was being served. She was in her 70s I'd say.

    The shop assistant told them "are ye together" and I said "no", so she told her to take a step back and she just said "alright" no apology or anything.

    It's incredible how people can still behave like this over a year in to the pandemic. I am genuinely flabbergasted at the stupidity of some people. No wonder things have to be sign posted everywhere.

    Common sense, not common, 1 thing we can always count on is the stupidity of people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Was in a shop today and a woman was standing right next to me, putting her stuff on the counter as I was being served. She was in her 70s I'd say.

    The shop assistant told them "are ye together" and I said "no", so she told her to take a step back and she just said "alright" no apology or anything.

    It's incredible how people can still behave like this over a year in to the pandemic. I am genuinely flabbergasted at the stupidity of some people. No wonder things have to be sign posted everywhere.
    Santan wrote: »
    Common sense, not common, 1 thing we can always count on is the stupidity of people

    okay, lets analysis this one, woman in her 70's, what kind of issues do such folks have to deal with on a daily basis, physical aliments of course, then there is the psychological ones. by any chance would she be struggling psychologically with all of this, maybe experiencing elevated levels of anxiety etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Santan


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    okay, lets analysis this one, woman in her 70's, what kind of issues do such folks have to deal with on a daily basis, physical aliments of course, then there is the psychological ones. by any chance would she be struggling psychologically with all of this, maybe experiencing elevated levels of anxiety etc?

    Can't defend idiots who can't stand at a simple mark on the ground, even if you think 2m apart is a stupid idea, it just shows that person for what they are, selfish, and there is no excuse for that crap, is it too hard for any person to just give a little distance, not even talking about a mask, is just standing in a spot too much for a person to god damn do. This is why we can't have nice things sometimes. Last line is just a joke (kind of)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Santan wrote: »
    Can't defend idiots who can't stand at a simple mark on the ground, even if you think 2m apart is a stupid idea, it just shows that person for what they are, selfish, and there is no excuse for that crap, is it too hard for any person to just give a little distance, not even talking about a mask, is just standing in a spot too much for a person to god damn do. This is why we can't have nice things sometimes. Last line is just a joke (kind of)

    so if a person that may have physical and psychological issues doesnt obey rules, is automatically 'an idiot'? it ll be interesting to see what happens when you get to that age!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    The reality is that everyone is completely fed up with living with Covid. The people that are sticking rigorously to the regulations and the people that are not. It's been going on for so long now, and it's forcing people to exist in such an unnatural way (in terms of being alone / isolated), that people are not necessarily choosing to break rules but they feel compelled to, to try maintain some sanity. And those who see that are increasingly feeling hard done by, and it leads to be people judging each other much more harshly than they otherwise would. And that's only going to lead to more division between us all.

    I think the next few months really are going to be a time for taking a deep breath, doing what we can to keep our own side of the street clean and trying to take a generous view of what others are doing. We don't know what's going on in anyone else's lives and what decisions they're being forced to take or why. It's crap for us all, and falling out over it is not going to help anyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Santan


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    so if a person that may have physical and psychological issues doesnt obey rules, is automatically 'an idiot'? it ll be interesting to see what happens when you get to that age!

    Fair enough, but I'm not really picking on the elderly, it's the 18 to 50 that I see are causing more of an issue


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    we really need to address our history of attempting to shame our citizens, it hasnt really worked very well for us!

    It's not shaming,
    It's calling out an inability to think of others and how one's actions can affect other families and the wider community in some very, very serious ways.

    It's a shame you can't see that and so can't many others.

    Instead, you try claim it's all down to personal responsibility....which incidentally is a common theme rolled out by anti-lockdown people, funny that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Cabaal wrote: »
    It's not shaming,
    It's calling out an inability to think of others and how one's actions can affect other families and the wider community in some very, very serious ways.

    It's a shame you can't see that and so can't many others.

    Instead, you try claim it's all down to personal responsibility....which incidentally is a common theme rolled out by anti-lockdown people, funny that.

    yes it is an attempt to shame and radicle those of us that chose to not follow the norm, we have a history of it in this country. i am looking after myself and my fellow citizens, by maintain my physical and mental well being, primarily my mental well being, and in order to do that, i am breaking some restrictions to do so. again, ive had conversations with mental health professionals, and they have confirmed i am indeed doing the right thing, and id imagine many others have been recommended and advised to do so also. our state has a history of not being able to understand its citizens needs, in particular its psychological needs, and covid yet again is highlighting this critical need and failure.

    i suspect most of those anti-lockdown folks are in fact prime examples of these failures, i suspect most of them are in fact suffering from complex psychological issues and disorders, and their beliefs and actions are outcomes of the failures of the state in appropriately dealing with them.

    im happy to say, i ll be getting jabbed next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭E38E3E38E3EE33


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    im happy to say, i ll be getting jabbed next week

    If we all clap, will that stop you repeating your nonsense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    If we all clap, will that stop you repeating your nonsense?

    what nonsense would that be then? clap if you like, but id rather a few quid to be honest


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    what nonsense would that be then? clap if you like, but id rather a few quid to be honest

    ‘Clapping’ yourself on the back about breaking the recommended COVID prevention measures of NPHET.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Asdfgh2020 wrote:
    ‘Clapping’ yourself on the back about breaking the recommended COVID prevention measures of NPHET.....

    Clapping myself on my back for looking after my mental well being, the last thing we need now is a serious mental health crisis, as our government doesn't know how to deal with such things


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Asdfgh2020 wrote: »
    ‘Clapping’ yourself on the back about breaking the recommended COVID prevention measures of NPHET.....

    Why do you reply to him? Why do you give him the attention he craves? He actually isnt the problem. Its people like you who allow him a platform to air his broken record stance of "Me,myself and I will do what i want. I have Aspergers so i can do what i like" that fuel the issue. Like a fire when the oxygen is removed, he would fade away if not given the attention.
    Unless you enjoy the drama too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Why do you reply to him? Why do you give him the attention he craves? He actually isnt the problem. Its people like you who allow him a platform to air his broken record stance of "Me,myself and I will do what i want. I have Aspergers so i can do what i like" that fuel the issue. Like a fire when the oxygen is removed, he would fade away if not given the attention. Unless you enjoy the drama too?

    Fair play to you folks, airing your dirty laundry........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Why do you reply to him? Why do you give him the attention he craves? He actually isnt the problem. Its people like you who allow him a platform to air his broken record stance of "Me,myself and I will do what i want. I have Aspergers so i can do what i like" that fuel the issue. Like a fire when the oxygen is removed, he would fade away if not given the attention.
    Unless you enjoy the drama too?

    Just felt like throwing in a stupid pun.....!
    With his vaccination now obtained he can return to his normal life again..?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Below 100 cases per 100,000 for the first time in months. Dublin commuter belt and Donegal are almost at the point they should be isolated for the rest of our good :)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    No county figures as it's a bank holiday weekend Happy holidays!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    6 today and a 5 day average of 5. Now in the bottom third of cases per 100,000k.


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Hodger


    Yesterday on the I am Waterford facebook group a well known busker in town posted she has being threatened by the council with a big fine unless she ceases busking Immediately.

    Later on in the thread two sinn fein councillors posted that they sought clarity on the issue from the council and were told its in relation to the current lockdown restrictions.

    I strongly disagree with the council on this' some days when Im out for a walk and passing through the town centre I quite like seeing busking during these difficult times its a way to brighten up some peoples day and take our minds off things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,883 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Hodger wrote: »
    Yesterday on the I am Waterford facebook group a well known busker in town posted she has being threatened by the council with a big fine unless she ceases busking Immediately.

    Later on in the thread two sinn fein councillors posted that they sought clarity on the issue from the council and were told its in relation to the current lockdown restrictions.

    I strongly disagree with the council on this' some days when Im out for a walk and passing through the town centre I quite like seeing busking during these difficult times its a way to brighten up some peoples day and take our minds off things.

    Disgraceful carry on by the council, its doing no harm

    Sure there's a cafe who have people sitting outside on tables and nothing is been said to them

    These restrictions are getting ridiculous


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Feels a bit off key, outdoor blowing a gale (as it alwsys does there) not likely to draw too much of a crowd at any given point


    todays numbers

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    One of those Walk-in COVID test centres which having been popping up around the country will be in Waterford for 5 days starting tomorrow (Saturday). College Street Campus, you need to bring Photo ID and provide a phone number so they can follow up.

    Full details are here: https://waterford-news.ie/2021/04/09/free-walk-in-covid-19-test-centre-to-open/


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    6 today and a 5 day average of 5. Now in the bottom third of cases per 100,000k.

    I wonder if this has anything to do with the schools being closed?

    We'll see soon enough I suppose!


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    johnnykilo wrote: »
    One of those Walk-in COVID test centres which having been popping up around the country will be in Waterford for 5 days starting tomorrow (Saturday). College Street Campus, you need to bring Photo ID and provide a phone number so they can follow up.

    Full details are here: https://waterford-news.ie/2021/04/09/free-walk-in-covid-19-test-centre-to-open/

    With our low covid numbers....be great if we could catch an outbreak before it happens.....great idea


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    With our low covid numbers....be great if we could catch an outbreak before it happens.....great idea

    Not sure why anyone would voluntarily go and put themselves forward for testing if they have no symptoms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Tiger Roll


    Aquos76 wrote:
    Not sure why anyone would voluntarily go and put themselves forward for testing if they have no symptoms.


    Think about it . If you have covid but don't have any symptoms you could potentially infect lots of people so what's wrong with getting tested to check .it's been a success in other areas of the country and has picked up over 300 asymptomatic cases who then had to isolate . I don't see your issue with it ?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Tiger Roll wrote: »
    Think about it . If you have covid but don't have any symptoms you could potentially infect lots of people so what's wrong with getting tested to check .it's been a success in other areas of the country and has picked up over 300 asymptomatic cases who then had to isolate . I don't see your issue with it ?

    Each to their own I guess, I wont be rushing to put myself forward for testing anyway, as a family we mix in a very small bubble. Community transmission is actually very small at the minute also thankfully. In Waterford alone we had four LEA's with no cases in the last 14 days. If people are genuinely concerned, then Id imagine they would be getting referred to the test centre by their GP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    Not sure why anyone would voluntarily go and put themselves forward for testing if they have no symptoms.

    Apparently a third of people who have COVID and transmit it don't have any symptoms, and I presume that means unless they've been close contacts and/or referred for a test, then they probably have no idea they're infected.

    That being said though, given that our numbers have (thankfully) been so small again over the last 2 or so weeks, I'm sure there's probably other areas in the country that would have benefitted from it more than us.


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  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    Each to their own I guess, I wont be rushing to put myself forward for testing anyway, as a family we mix in a very small bubble. Community transmission is actually very small at the minute also thankfully. In Waterford alone we had four LEA's with no cases in the last 14 days. If people are genuinely concerned, then Id imagine they would be getting referred to the test centre by their GP.

    its a good idea,to catch cases without sythoms and prevent em,from passing it on??



    Way too many died in january to not do everything possible to prevent another case of the ritz in tramore again.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    its a good idea,to catch cases without sythoms and prevent em,from passing it on??
    Way too many died in january to not do everything possible to prevent another case of the ritz in tramore again.

    Its a good idea in areas where case numbers are still stubbornly high, Waterford thankfully isn't one of these place, who knows, maybe hundreds may present themselves over the next five days for testing and we might be having a different conversation then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I'd march every school child through it. And every teacher.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I'd march every school child through it. And every teacher.

    Now there’s an idea alright Harry, I’d actually agree to this :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    An email has been circulated to hospital staff to let them know childcare arrangement concessions are coming to an end

    Pandemic is over in other words


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    I see the numbers had been back to pre-Christmas levels the last couple of weeks: <5, 5, 8 etc... but they were 15 today. Not sure is that a due to the schools going back full time or the presence of the walk-in test centre being in Waterford for the week, or both.

    Speaking of which, I went down to the Walk-in Test Centre for a test at lunchtime today. Walked straight in, no one else getting tested. Saw another guy arriving just as I was leaving. I was in and out in 5 minutes, would have been half that time if the girl entering my details on the laptop hadn't been faffing around. The swab wasn't uncomfortable at all.

    And while I'm going with the COVID updates, both parents got the first vaccine in the last couple of days. One got the Pfizer in their GP's office, the other got AztraZeneca out in WIT Carriganore. Took 90 minutes to get vaccinated out in Carriganore though, not sure if that's a regular occurrence or if they were just having a bad day. Just to bear in mind if anyone is due out there in the next while, there might be a bit of a wait.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    johnnykilo wrote:
    And while I'm going with the COVID updates, both parents got the first vaccine in the last couple of days. One got the Pfizer in their GP's office, the other got AztraZeneca out in WIT Carriganore. Took 90 minutes to get vaccinated out in Carriganore though, not sure if that's a regular occurrence or if they were just having a bad day. Just to bear in mind if anyone is due out there in the next while, there might be a bit of a wait.

    Thankfully we didn't have to wait long for our jab, just a few minutes really, wasn't in carriganore though. Unfortunately the situation with vaccines doesn't seem to be settling, Pfizer now saying a third maybe needed within a year, and then of course there's the AstraZeneca situation, which is what I got, unsure what's gonna happen there. How are your parents after it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    Thanks for asking. One was fine, the other was fairly sick for about 24 hours after the AZ one, but that wasn't totally unexpected I guess.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Pfizer now saying a third maybe needed within a year

    Same as flu vaccine, so no big deal really just that they'll need greater uptake for a few years of people getting the covid one. Maybe they can combine the two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Same as flu vaccine, so no big deal really just that they'll need greater uptake for a few years of people getting the covid one. Maybe they can combine the two.

    similar to flu, but obviously not exactly the same, development of covid vaccines could still be tricky over the next couple of years, no idea if both can be mixed, we ll see i guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,087 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I saw something on TV where they were looking for volunteers in the UK for a trial of giving the flu and covid vaccines at the same time. Think they were looking for volunteers who had already had one covid jab and were waiting for their second.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I saw something on TV where they were looking for volunteers in the UK for a trial of giving the flu and covid vaccines at the same time. Think they were looking for volunteers who had already had one covid jab and were waiting for their second.

    they seem to be also trialing mixing different covid vaccines


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    So...a controversial question, but is the pandemic essentially over? Vaccines have driven down deaths and infections in our older populations, and by the end of the year most people will be fully vaccinated. So the only threat remains with variants coming in but that can be nipped at source. With life pretty much half back to normal in the UK and so much known about the virus by now, the worst is behind us. What do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭johnnykilo


    So...a controversial question, but is the pandemic essentially over? Vaccines have driven down deaths and infections in our older populations, and by the end of the year most people will be fully vaccinated. So the only threat remains with variants coming in but that can be nipped at source. With life pretty much half back to normal in the UK and so much known about the virus by now, the worst is behind us. What do you think?

    Personally I don't think it's going to be that straightforward unfortunately. I think there's going to be a few more twists in the vaccine rollout and I think the variant threats can't be ignored. I think there's plenty of reason for hope for this Summer things almost getting back to normal, but I think the Autumn/Winter is going to see another lockdown for various reasons due to complacency from the relaxed Summer and the vaccines and then the spread of variants.

    I don't think the variant can be nipped at source as you said, unless every country either locks down or stops travel. You only have to look at what's happening in India at the moment, the variant spreading there is a combination of 2 variants: a more transmissible one and a more debilitating one. Younger people seem to be more susceptible to that one also for some reason. Apparently this variant is in the UK now. Brazil is another case in point, and given their failure to lockdown there's plenty of opportunity for even more variants to arise.

    I think eventually we'll get on top of this, and I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it happening for another couple of years, until at least most of the world gets vaccinated. I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it going: a good Summer, another bad Winter and then maybe something approaching normality this time next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I can see the potential for a massive "lock in" next winter to try and keep these overseas variants at bay. The airline business might think it can see daylight but I reckon international trave will be suppressed for a good while yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    johnnykilo wrote:
    I think eventually we'll get on top of this, and I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it happening for another couple of years, until at least most of the world gets vaccinated. I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it going: a good Summer, another bad Winter and then maybe something approaching normality this time next year.

    Unfortunately I think you could be right, this is one little bugger of a virus, we 'll be fighting it for another while , and it really does look like vaccines is the only answer. I can also see growing unrest occuring, people are truly done with it, so are businesses, and understandable so, I suspect a stormy few months ahead


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    Test centre in Kilcohan very busy just now, at least 8/9 cars queuing, wonder is this Easter catching up or is there a localised outbreak somewhere, given its Sunday morning at 10.30, I was a bit surprised


  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭Flow Motion


    So...a controversial question, but is the pandemic essentially over? Vaccines have driven down deaths and infections in our older populations, and by the end of the year most people will be fully vaccinated. So the only threat remains with variants coming in but that can be nipped at source. With life pretty much half back to normal in the UK and so much known about the virus by now, the worst is behind us. What do you think?

    Most of us thought we were over the worst of it last June. Enjoyed the Summer and then the schools returned and we were back @ Lockdown#2 by the end of October. Re-opened @ start December and were really in trouble by the end of the month/New Year.

    Either side of L2 and the current L3 restrictions were only eased for 30 days in Dec. So as of today we have been at Level 5 for 170 out of the past 200 days!!!:eek: Thats a fair chunk of time. Cant imagine the real/full effect on many people's mental health and the financial effect on people & businesses.

    The vaccines are making a difference though and the change of season too. But I would not say the pandemic is over as such. We have been caught out and on the hop a fair few times over this past year. I'd keep an eye on the numbers over the next month to see the effect of the schools fully returning and the lifting of the 5k restrictions. If the Govt open things up too quickly without a large % of us receiving even just the one dose of a vaccine then it could drag on for a few months.

    The variants could surprise us. There's a few about now and more will emerge until most of the world is vaccinated. So I'd be sceptical if any Govt Minister comes out and pats us on the back and tells we are over the worst of it in the next few weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    jimbojazz wrote: »
    Test centre in Kilcohan very busy just now, at least 8/9 cars queuing, wonder is this Easter catching up or is there a localised outbreak somewhere, given its Sunday morning at 10.30, I was a bit surprised

    I don't think these kind of posts are necessary really. People are given an allotted timeslot as to when to arrive at the test centre. You're getting a snippet of how many cars are there at a part of a day by walking or driving past. The centre was closed in the afternoon yesterday, and so if they scheduled say 20 tests to take place between 10-11, then jumping to conclusions should be held off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    iseegirls wrote: »
    I don't think these kind of posts are necessary really. People are given an allotted timeslot as to when to arrive at the test centre. You're getting a snippet of how many cars are there at a part of a day by walking or driving past. The centre was closed in the afternoon yesterday, and so if they scheduled say 20 tests to take place between 10-11, then jumping to conclusions should be held off.

    I wasn’t jumping to any conclusions, I was just making a point on what I saw, but thanks for clarifying


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