De'Longhi Magnifica Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Maker £199

18-07-2019 2:01pm

flangemeistro wrote: »

My one is just over a year old guys and the last 3 days I've noticed lots of loose grounds next to the puc container and all around the brewing unit.

They're not broken pucs either that have hit off the edge and fallen but perfect grounds and a lot of them.

Has anyone experienced this?

I took the brewing unit out and cleaned it and gave the inside a good cleaning but it's still happening.

im reading all the flawless reviews and its killing me, this has been happening me ever since i bought it

ive done everything except taken the brew unit apart/changed 'O' rings/relubed, but that looks like my next option

stimpson · 18-07-2019 2:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

im reading all the flawless reviews and its killing me, this has been happening me ever since i bought it

ive done everything except taken the brew unit apart/changed 'O' rings/relubed, but that looks like my next option

De Longhi have a support line. Worth giving them a call.

https://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/customer-experience/contact-us-

18-07-2019 2:32pm

stimpson wrote: »

De Longhi have a support line. Worth giving them a call.

https://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/customer-experience/contact-us-

im working with amazon at present, had called delonghi before but being ROI made it tricky (if im honest i cant remember what the problem was)

thread of many satisfied users has prompted me to attempt to get it sorted again so thanks!

jam_mac_jam · 18-07-2019 2:41pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

224 GBP for the 4200.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DeLonghi-Magnifica-ESAM-4200-S-Silver/dp/B001EOMZ5E?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_PC_40e740a6_0&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Have this machine, can't recommend enough.

Got it today. Love it. Got a really nice cup after a few tries with ok beans so really happy

Ballyv24 · 18-07-2019 5:04pm

Deleted User wrote: »

im reading all the flawless reviews and its killing me, this has been happening me ever since i bought it

ive done everything except taken the brew unit apart/changed 'O' rings/relubed, but that looks like my next option

The re-lube step will probably fix it. It might ruin your target ads when you are googling lubricant for a coffee machine

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You could buy a new diffuser kit as well (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000U1OS0C)

Nicetrustedcup · 18-07-2019 5:11pm

Had mine nearly 3 years think I paid 180 euros from the amazon warehouse.

Probably one of the best gadgets I have ever bought get used daily. Makes amazing coffee compared to say a nespresso. Costs barely anything to run

Just a pain in the ass to clean out inside I use a small handhld hover to hover up the grinds.

Prob get about 2 months if not 3 out of a kg bag of coffee I store my beans in the fridge.

But if anyone is ever looking at buying one I will say hands down buy one you won't regret it

you2008 · 18-07-2019 5:38pm

Hey
can someone please share the link of how to set up on youtube? got it last year, have not open the box yet ( i no - dont ask me why)

Hococop · 22-07-2019 10:48am

Ballyv24 wrote: »

The re-lube step will probably fix it. It might ruin your target ads when you are googling lubricant for a coffee machine .

You could buy a new diffuser kit as well (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000U1OS0C)

Just looking at buying food safe lube to fix mine, someone recommended cooking oil and have a small brush to apply it, just wondering would that work as I don't want to risk it?

22-07-2019 2:57pm

My personal tips....

Lavazza Rossa is a solid non-"craft roaster" bean option for these imo.

1kg on offer in Tesco periodically for €12. (normally €16). otherwise amazon etc

grinder set to number 3 or a tiny bit less

set the temperature to max (consult manual)

right coffee bean dial to max

left dial to taste for dilution ( I go about 1pm)

have to use the frother wand really to get the full effect imo

run water out of the wand at start after steam light is not flashing anymore as first little bit comes out as water, not steam

after frothing turn steam off and run water for 7 seconds or so to cool down machine for reuse or to turn off

better making all the coffees first then steaming the milk due to this.

a 200 to 300ml stainless steel jug best for the milk frothing

low fat milk froths better than full fat. (that's what coffee shops use)

22-07-2019 3:34pm

Zimmerframe wrote: »

Isn't there a free hamper too. ?

https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/02/_AVS/316766/Hamper_Value_Add_-_TCs_2019._CB467480619_.pdf

don't get too excited. they just send you a couple/three bags of bang-average-to-bad coffee beans and a descaler sachet.

by the way citric acid powder (10g for a water tank dissolved in warm water) is the easiest and cheapest safe option to use.

Orebro · 31-07-2019 1:02pm

There is a veritable ton of these available at the moment on Amazon Warehouse for a great price, presumably Prime Day buyers remorse returns - lots are marked as "Good" or "As New".

stimpson · 31-07-2019 2:11pm

glasso wrote: »

don't get too excited. they just send you a couple/three bags of bang-average-to-bad coffee beans and a descaler sachet.

by the way citric acid powder (10g for a water tank dissolved in warm water) is the easiest and cheapest safe option to use.

Don’t use citric acid in these. It will descale it but will also eat the seals in the machine over time. Use the De’Longhi ecodecalk. It’s a tenner a bottle in DID and will last a year. Considering the replacement cost of the machines it’s worth spending the few Bob.

McSween · 10-08-2019 9:25am

Orebro wrote: »

There is a veritable ton of these available at the moment on Amazon Warehouse for a great price, presumably Prime Day buyers remorse returns - lots are marked as "Good" or "As New".

Has anyone bought one of these warehouse ones? Were they ok? I think i will next month.

uck51js9zml2yt · 10-08-2019 9:31am

I use this coffee from Amazon. Does a really nice brew.

Amorcaffe Intenso Taste Coffee... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07P91JGG6?

10-08-2019 11:44pm

stimpson wrote: »

Don’t use citric acid in these. It will descale it but will also eat the seals in the machine over time. Use the De’Longhi ecodecalk. It’s a tenner a bottle in DID and will last a year. Considering the replacement cost of the machines it’s worth spending the few Bob.

citric acid is pretty mild.

I've been using it for 3 years and no issue. people on forums using it for longer. have not seen one report of anyone blaming it for ruining their machine.

you can buy that stuff I'll use the citric acid (1 to 2 tablespoons per litre). each to their own!

10-08-2019 11:53pm

https://www.descaler.co.uk/articles/difference-lactic-citric-acid/

Why do some manufacturers then recommend lactic acid while others recommend citric acid?

Previously nearly all manufacturers advised a descaling agent based on citric acid. The reason for this is simple: it dissolves the lime better and therefore less active ingredients are required for a bottle of descaler. In addition, the raw materials for citric acid are cheaper to buy. So we think it mainly was the choice of our suppliers who could deliver this product cheaper than lactic acid. Nowadays, manufacturers are moving from citric acid to lactic acid. The reason being the sheer fact that they first recommended citric acid and now lactic acid for the same machines now indicates that it does not matter very much in essence.

stimpson · 11-08-2019 12:20am

glasso wrote: »

https://www.descaler.co.uk/articles/difference-lactic-citric-acid/

That is a website that sells descaler, and they provide no evidence for their opinion. There could be good reason for manufacturers to move from citric acid to lactic acid.

Pique · 11-08-2019 12:59am

stimpson wrote:

That is a website that sells descaler, and they provide no evidence for their opinion. There could be good reason for manufacturers to move from citric acid to lactic acid.

Tbf they sell the oem stuff in the main as far as I can see.

Rega · 11-08-2019 8:47am

McSween wrote: »

Has anyone bought one of these warehouse ones? Were they ok? I think i will next month.

I got mine 'like new' from the warehouse. It was perfect. I have it two years now and it's never let me down.

11-08-2019 9:31pm

stimpson wrote: »

That is a website that sells descaler, and they provide no evidence for their opinion. There could be good reason for manufacturers to move from citric acid to lactic acid.

if they were worried about selling descaler they would be against citrid acid as it costs fcuk all so your point makes zero sense.

stimpson · 11-08-2019 11:07pm

A quick google shows that citric acid can cause pitting in aluminium boilers. The consensus seems to be that lactic acid is less corrosive and a commercial descaling product will contain corrosion inhibitors that you won’t get with a simple citric acid solution.

Knowing that it could be €300 to replace the machine, I don’t mind spending a tenner a year in descaler. If you want to use citric acid them good luck to you.

unkel · 12-08-2019 12:46am

I used the extra descaler they sent me for free when registering with DeLonghi years ago. Since then I have just ingnored the descaling warning. Must be at least a year, maybe two now. Machine is still making fine coffee. I reckon the descaling warning is just built in to come on after a certain time period. We've always had soft water here in Lucan, so lime scale was probably never an issue. Don't pay for stuff you don't need, folks. That said, Lucan was recently changed over to the Leixlip Liffey hard water supply so I don't know how long this bliss will last

12-08-2019 10:29am

if you're in a soft water area doesn't matter too much.

the machine measures by cups made according to the water hardness setting put entered.

the fact that the manufacturers had citric acid as the descaler for the very same magnificia machine is good enough for me.

lactic acid has the benefit of allowing the manufacturers to charge more as it's not a readily available product like citric acid.

stimpson · 12-08-2019 11:12am

glasso wrote: »

lactic acid has the benefit of allowing the manufacturers to charge more as it's not a readily available product like citric acid.

Ahem...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lactic-Acid-80-Standard-1Kg/dp/B00ENZI2EE

12-08-2019 11:47am

stimpson wrote: »

Ahem...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lactic-Acid-80-Standard-1Kg/dp/B00ENZI2EE

yes. citric acid costs about a 1/10th of that and you can buy it in Tesco

sunny2004 · 12-08-2019 12:04pm

some milks don't froth as well as others, regardless of the dates on the milk.. (always using fresh milk)

what are people using ? im not referring to over heating milk as I'm using a separate milk frother that's automatic..

pleasant Co. · 12-08-2019 12:36pm

Thanks for the reminder, I need to find out the water hardness in my place, where can I pick up the strips to test it?

stimpson · 12-08-2019 12:46pm

glasso wrote: »

yes. citric acid costs about a 1/10th of that and you can buy it in Tesco

Not according to Tesco.ie. It’s only half the price on Amazon.

Regardless, I would have concerns over aluminium corrosion from using citric acid. It will descale for sure, but you don’t know what else it’s going to do.

tototoe · 12-08-2019 1:24pm

Have anither problem with my 2800, the door wont stay closed . Really dont want to have to cart a second one back to argos. Can anyome tell me shoukd there be a spring on the latch keeping the door closed, have it sellotaped at the moment but its not pretty and awkward everytime you clean it.

12-08-2019 3:47pm

stimpson wrote: »

Not according to Tesco.ie. It’s only half the price on Amazon.

Regardless, I would have concerns over aluminium corrosion from using citric acid. It will descale for sure, but you don’t know what else it’s going to do.

95 cent. enough for 5 descalings

https://www.asiamarket.ie/east-end-citric-acid-100g.html

stimpson · 12-08-2019 3:52pm

glasso wrote: »

95 cent. enough for 5 descalings

https://www.asiamarket.ie/east-end-citric-acid-100g.html

So practically the sample cost per gram.

RunRoryRun · 12-08-2019 3:54pm

tototoe wrote: »

Have anither problem with my 2800, the door wont stay closed . Really dont want to have to cart a second one back to argos. Can anyome tell me shoukd there be a spring on the latch keeping the door closed, have it sellotaped at the moment but its not pretty and awkward everytime you clean it.

I'm having the exact same problem! Just started last week.

stimpson · 12-08-2019 4:24pm

tototoe wrote: »

Have anither problem with my 2800, the door wont stay closed . Really dont want to have to cart a second one back to argos. Can anyome tell me shoukd there be a spring on the latch keeping the door closed, have it sellotaped at the moment but its not pretty and awkward everytime you clean it.

Looks like it might just need a good clean around the infuser unit:

http://www.fixya.com/support/t12245603-delonghi_magnifica_door_won_39_t_stay

RunRoryRun · 12-08-2019 7:53pm

stimpson wrote: »

Looks like it might just need a good clean around the infuser unit:

http://www.fixya.com/support/t12245603-delonghi_magnifica_door_won_39_t_stay

Worked! Huzzah! Thank you

bromley52 · 12-08-2019 8:38pm

pleasant Co. wrote: »

Thanks for the reminder, I need to find out the water hardness in my place, where can I pick up the strips to test it?

I am in Cork city and the water is softer than Kittensoft. West Cork is the same.

12-08-2019 11:47pm

stimpson wrote: »

So practically the sample cost per gram.

but the concentrations needed are different.

probably get 15 descales from 1kg lactic acid @ 80% concentration

twice that with citric and it's cheaper by at least 50% to buy so 4 times cheaper overall.

stimpson · 13-08-2019 12:00am

glasso wrote: »

but the concentrations needed are different.

probably get 15 descales from 1kg lactic acid @ 80% concentration

twice that with citric and it's cheaper by at least 50% to buy so 4 times cheaper overall.

Looking at the safety data sheets for the generic stuff on descaler.co.uk, they have the same concentration and the lactic version is only 50p dearer.

13-08-2019 12:08am

stimpson wrote: »

Looking at the safety data sheets for the generic stuff on descaler.co.uk, they have the same concentration and the lactic version is only 50p dearer.

but it's 1/2 the price on amazon (citric vs lactic) and you said you didn't trust descaler.co.uk before but now you do!

either option is a lot cheaper than the official product which is just lactic acid and water

stimpson · 13-08-2019 12:12am

glasso wrote: »

but it's 1/2 the price on amazon (citric vs lactic) and you said you didn't trust descaler.co.uk before but now you do!

I was quoting from the MSDS. I trust those.

You are talking about saving pennies on cleaning a €300 machine and risking corrosion of your boiler.

tototoe · 13-08-2019 6:25am

stimpson wrote: »

Looks like it might just need a good clean around the infuser unit:

http://www.fixya.com/support/t12245603-delonghi_magnifica_door_won_39_t_stay

Kind of worked. Can't find what's pushing it out, if I reseat the tray it stays closed for a while, then pops again. Thanks though, it's slightly better, and spotless.

stimpson · 13-08-2019 11:20am

tototoe wrote: »

Kind of worked. Can't find what's pushing it out, if I reseat the tray it stays closed for a while, then pops again. Thanks though, it's slightly better, and spotless.

There could be a stray bean somewhere. They get wedged in sometimes. Check the tray, grinds box thing and in behind the infuser. Maybe get the hoover at it.

pleasant Co. · 13-08-2019 12:05pm

bromley52 wrote: »

I am in Cork city and the water is softer than Kittensoft. West Cork is the same.

Thanks, when I initially tested it a couple of years ago it was soft where I was too. I've moved since so am curious to know if that's changed. Using the machine waaaaaay more lately too:pac:

sunny2004 · 04-09-2019 9:02am

This morning the coffee maker diffuser mechanism seems to be locked down lower than usual on the bottom.

Woke up click the make coffee button and it made a mad racket and when I opened it up the diffuser unit, (the thing with the left and right side PUSH buttons) was sitting low in the machine. It occasional goes back up.

Any ideas ? Please help

illdoit2morrow · 04-09-2019 9:15am

sunny2004 wrote: »

This morning the coffee maker diffuser mechanism seems to be locked down lower than usual on the bottom.

Woke up click the make coffee button and it made a mad racket and when I opened it up the diffuser unit, (the thing with the left and right side PUSH buttons) was sitting low in the machine. It occasional goes back up.

Any ideas ? Please help

Power it off woth the button on the front, the diffuser should go back to its proper position. You should then be able to the the diffuser out, do this and then put it back in and power on the machine again. While you have the diffuer out, give the inside if the machine a bit of a clean as the coffee grains are inclined to get everywhere and build up over time. Have you applied any lubricant to the diffuser? There is a youtube video for basic care in which they do this as part of regular maintenance.

I use an old toothbrush to clean the inside and give it a vacumn every so often. Saying that, I'm having issues with mine too lately.

sunny2004 · 04-09-2019 9:26am

illdoit2morrow wrote: »

Power it off woth the button on the front, the diffuser should go back to its proper position. You should then be able to the the diffuser out, do this and then put it back in and power on the machine again. While you have the diffuer out, give the inside if the machine a bit of a clean as the coffee grains are inclined to get everywhere and build up over time. Have you applied any lubricant to the diffuser? There is a youtube video for basic care in which they do this as part of regular maintenance.

I use an old toothbrush to clean the inside and give it a vacumn every so often. Saying that, I'm having issues with mine too lately.

Thanks for the reply, I often take the diffuser out and clean it regularly and generally clean the inside. When I fully power down and machine and its fully off the diffuser is now sitting at the bottom, oddly enough in this NEW lower position it can come out. As for lubrication I have never done it to the machine.

illdoit2morrow · 04-09-2019 9:26am

Lately, the grounds container on my machine always comes on when i turn on my machine. This is fixed by pulling out the drip tray and cleaning out along where the back of the drip tray meets the back the of the plastic enclosure on the inside of the machine. There must be a sensor of some sort at the back of the enclosure, wiping away the few coffee grains which are there will turn the ligh that has come on to turn off.

The underlying issue as far as i can tell issue is that a lot of the used coffee grains are not making it into the used coffee container, they tend to fall into the base of the inside of the machine. I suspect that something is not lined up correctly but have no idea what or how this has happened.

Has anyone else experienced this? If so, were you able to fix it?

TIA

illdoit2morrow · 04-09-2019 9:29am

sunny2004 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply, I often take the diffuser out and clean it regularly and generally clean the inside. When I fully power down and machine is fully off the diffuser is now sting at the bottom, oddly enough in this NEW lower position it can come out. As for lubrication I have never done it to the machine.

The 'pull out diffuser' position is quite low alright when machine is off, i think that is normal.

Pique · 04-09-2019 9:31am

I think one of those little USB vacuum cleaners for a keyboard would be handy to get the offending grounds out.

McSween · 21-09-2019 8:00am

I think i will buy this next week. If anyone comes across it cheaper please post where. Thanks

FastFullBack · 21-09-2019 9:19am

McSween wrote: »

I think i will buy this next week. If anyone comes across it cheaper please post where. Thanks

Price in amazon for the 4200 is £298,which is high enough. It comes down to 215 at times

https://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/DeLonghi-Magnifica-ESAM-4200-S-Silver/product/B001EOMZ5E?context=search

De'Longhi Magnifica Bean to Cup Espresso/Cappuccino Maker £199

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